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Bring me all the queers.Can Bobby be Bi at least. I don't like Bi Erasure as is.
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Bring me all the queers.Can Bobby be Bi at least. I don't like Bi Erasure as is.
The only "big budget" would be Storm. All the others have been done on TV for ages. As I was writing this...The Boys has proven that X-Men can be done just fine.I don't know that any tv budget is big enough to fully do the X-Men justice. Not with how many completely unique superpowers would need to be involved.
I don't think he'll have to go to the same length with the X-Men myself. Doing something even a little more faithful to the comics is enough to differentiate from the Fox films and you can't avoid using the big guns like Cyclops and Storm.Given how Feige has handled Spider-Man's franchise after Sony made a deal with Marvel Studios, I'm kind of hesitant to see what he'll do with the X-Men.
My biggest concern is that he'll focus on obscure characters just for the sake of being "different" from previous portrayals. So many fans have been waiting to see the likes of Cyclops, Storm, Rogue, Gambit, and others get the spotlight after they were sidelined for other characters (e.g., Wolverine, Magneto, Mystique).
A New Mutants show (or something else like it), would be an unteresting way to expand the X-Men mythos and focus on smaller scale stuff in ways that the movies might not be able to. That way you can reserve the heavy hitters for the movies and utilize other underappreciated characters or teams for TV. The school aspect of the X-Men is something the movies never really get to explore all that much (understandbly so) so I'd be all for a TV show focusing on those aspects.New Mutants show? Id be 100% on board.
X-Men show? hell no, they deserve a movie. And some X-Men can pop-up on tv and other tv spinoffs, that would flesh them out. but the X-Men are the A-list, so they deserve to be on the big screen. Firstly, at least.
At this point I'll take anything if it has Gambit in it not dead.New Mutants show? Id be 100% on board.
X-Men show? hell no, they deserve a movie. And some X-Men can pop-up on tv and other tv spinoffs, that would flesh them out. but the X-Men are the A-list, so they deserve to be on the big screen. Firstly, at least.
I don't know the budget for The Boys but it has varied and convincing superhero action for a show.The only "big budget" would be Storm. All the others have been done on TV for ages. As I was writing this...The Boys has proven that X-Men can be done just fine.
Jean - Telepathy and TK? Nothing new.
Cyclops - Glorified heat vision.
Storm - Lightning
If the early X-Men films are a success I’d love to see the larger scale expansion of the school with Emma making the switch from Hellfire Club villain (has to start that way) to run it. We could get some of the quirkier student characters that way. That could work very well in a show.A New Mutants show (or something else like it), would be an unteresting way to expand the X-Men mythos and focus on smaller scale stuff in ways that the movies might not be able to. That way you can reserve the heavy hitters for the movies and utilize other underappreciated characters or teams for TV. The school aspect of the X-Men is something the movies never really get to explore all that much (understandbly so) so I'd be all for a TV show focusing on those aspects.
I don't know the budget for The Boys but it has varied and convincing superhero action for a show.
X-Men isnt a straight 2hr film of nothing but powers. It isnt even a book that is a straight action book. The characters have lives that they actually live.Yeah but the show focuses on non-powered characters so they can conserve the amount of screentime devoted to effect-heavy superpowers. It's actually a pretty perfect premise to organically keep the budget down.
With a mutants focused show, I assume they would have to have a bunch of teenage drama to fill the time, so a better comparison would be with Generation V. I liked Generation V and would be on board for a mutants show similar to that...but would the Marvel TV writers actually be able to write compelling enough drama to make up for long stretches screentime with no superpowered action? That's the question.
But see we were talking about a X-Men tv series that visually look on par with the Mcu movies. In my preference, the Avengers. Yes story matters. But remember X-Men are superpowered people and with the right amount of budget, there's a lot to be done.The Boys cost $11mill per episode.
X-Men tv series is doable on a 11mill per episode budget. Fans are interested in a good tv show. It doesnt need to look ULTRA glam as if its a movie.
Lets not act as if X-Men would be getting 22 episode seasons. They'd likely do 6-10. So even if you do GoT budget which was $15-20mill thats $160mill for a season.
$400mill is beyond insane to even put out there as needed
Not if the point the point of the show is to be the opposite of a blockbuster movie. If they want to succeed with these shows, they need to be focusing on other things that play better to the TV medium. Legion was a pretty good show and it's major strengths were character development and storytelling, not vfx . These shows don't need to be the equivilant of a $200 million movie.But see we were talking about a X-Men tv series that visually look on par with the Mcu movies. In my preference, the Avengers. Yes story matters. But remember X-Men are superpowered people and with the right amount of budget, there's a lot to be done.
There aren't a lot you can do with 11 million per episode. I watched the Boys and it always make me wonder why some of the Seven are rarely part of the action. Electricity, throwing people in the air, glowing eyes, these are basic vfx/stunt work that aren't hard to pull off. But action scenes that require several days to finish? Can they do a highway chase scene without looking dodgy (Hawkeye the show). What about the Sentinels, can they be featured in every episode?
They wouldn't do able to do all of those for every single. Even if its just 6 to 10 episodes. They most likely save the big pieces for the premiere or the big finale - which feels quite limiting.
If you think $400 million is beyond incase, then just look at what Marvel Studios have accomplished for $200 million plus budget for She Hulk and Secret Invasion... the action in those shows aren't even close to a MCU movie. If you think they can off X-Men tv show under aTVbudget, I highly doubt they could.
But see, you would have to confine them to stories/scenarios that won't require a big budget/stunt works/tons of vfx.X-Men isnt a straight 2hr film of nothing but powers. It isnt even a book that is a straight action book. The characters have lives that they actually live.
Astonishing X-Men: Xenogenesis - no X-men used their powers in the entire first issue. They were all just in the Mansion talking.
But see we were talking about a X-Men tv series that visually look on par with the Mcu movies. In my preference, the Avengers. Yes story matters. But remember X-Men are superpowered people and with the right amount of budget, there's a lot to be done.
There aren't a lot you can do with 11 million per episode. I watched the Boys and it always make me wonder why some of the Seven are rarely part of the action. Electricity, throwing people in the air, glowing eyes, these are basic vfx/stunt work that aren't hard to pull off. But action scenes that require several days to finish? Can they do a highway chase scene without looking dodgy (Hawkeye the show). What about the Sentinels, can they be featured in every episode?
They wouldn't do able to do all of those for every single. Even if its just 6 to 10 episodes. They most likely save the big pieces for the premiere or the big finale - which feels quite limiting.
If you think $400 million is beyond incase, then just look at what Marvel Studios have accomplished with $200 million plus budget for She Hulk ($225m) and Secret Invasion ($212m)... the action/production values in those shows aren't even close to a highly well made MCU movie. If you think they can off X-Men tv show under a "TV budget", I highly doubt they could. If the mutants are just gonna sit there in their classrooms with their casual clothes on and talk for ten minutes straight okay, maybe they don't need a large budget.
But see, you would have to confine them to stories/scenarios that won't require a big budget/stunt works/tons of vfx.
And for an ideal X-Men tv show, is that something people really want to see.
You've only given a scenario where a $11 million budget per episode is doable.
This is what I fear for the games.
And the worst thing is that this will only piss off X-Men fans. The average moviegoer and gamer will love Wolverine leading the X-Men stories. Especially those people who still jerk off to Hugh Jackman.
I mean, the Deadpool trailers already sold Wolverine as THE X-Man.
I won't be surprised.
We've been waiting for this version of the X-Men for so long. A version that looks more like the comics we all love, a version that exists within a much larger landscape (the MCU).
And who could have predicted it would happen right when the movie industry was on its last legs...