Greengrass was planning on using a reflective body paint on Denzel Washington
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It’s not quite that simple (Not that it would have been simple). He wanted to use a reflective paint that could be altered in post production to make it look like it was glowing.
You know why they did that “simplified organic structure” design? So they didn’t have to show his penis. True story.
A fair point. In the case of journal entries I can live with that, but if he sounds like this the entire movie it's going to wear on my nerves.
To be fair, I read Rorschach as more monotone and detached when he spoke, so I acknowledge that part of my aversion is due to that expectation. But doing my best to be open to different interpretations...it still just annoys me. It just feels way too intense to be listening to for two hours.[/quote]
Rorschach’s “attempt” to be badass sure sounds more natural than say, Batman’s. Rorschach’s voice is markedly different and much better than Bale’s “I will scream some words and whisper some because I can’t hold this voice” Batman voice.
I don’t think Rorschach’s dialogue lends itself to complete monotone. There’s too much inherent emotion in his character. Intense? I think that’s the point. It’s not a pleasant voice on any level. And it's not supposed to be.
As for his mask…the black and white aren’t supposed to mix, and they don't. That's what he means when he says "Black and white together. Never mixing. Beautiful." (or whatever he says). He's referring to his worldview. The black is allowed to touch, though, and does in the comic book. Otherwise, it wouldn’t look like its namesake.
the quote and the name changing has no connection what so ever. The title of the movie and the graphic novel explains the "watch over them" quote so there is absolutely no need for the characters to refer themselves as the watchmen, it is dumbed down.
How is it dumbed down? And please, be detailed about how adding more thematic relevance to something is dumbing down the material.
Why is it ok for the heroes to connect themselves with “Watchmen” when it is written in graffiti, but not ok for them to consider calling themselves such at one point?
I admire Synder's intentions and his obession with detail, but what I think we are going to find is that this is an unnaturally complex project in that people (fans and the people creating the movie, both) value so many different parts of the story, it's basically impossible for anyone to walk away totally pleased and that may be a serious problem. Watchmen fans are incredibly detail oriented because that is what the book is made up of and that is what they will expect from a film adaptation. It's an incredibly complex and detail rich world and as a book, it's a wonderful sci-fi experience. I think it's impossible to reproduce the soul of that.
The soul of WATCHMEN is the themes and concepts, and the layers it features. Not whether every version of it includes "My brother who owns the Promethean Cab Company". An attention to detail is an attention to detail and reverence for the source material is reverence for the source material. Snyder has shown both a desire to include as much of the details (both visual and story) and layering as he can in the context of a film, and a desire to show reverence for the source material in most respects. Within reason of course. Hell, the scripts even feature material from the "annotations" at the end of each chapter.
And if every single detail or layer isn’t present, only people with absolutely ridiculous expectations of such a project will be disappointed. And these are people who were never going to be satisfied with any adaption of it to begin with. But I'll wager that even most of them will applaud what the movie gets right.
A fair point. There's a reason Alan Moore doesn't want his stuff put to film. Especially in the case of Watchmen, the product simply will not translate in it's complete form. It will not. For example, you can put in lines about Rorschach's childhood, but that isn't the same as reading the paper he wrote about his father, is it?
ALL of the project will not translate in it’s current form. And that’s not a horrible thing. It's difficult to translate ANY mythology in one film. The Batman franchise couldn't do it either, even with a much simpler and less complex story to tell.
This was always going to be a streamlined product. A sizable amount of material will become a square peg trying to fit in a round hole. In that process, a lot of people will be unsatisfied, because every loss is a significant one.
Given that inevitability, though, they seem to be doing a fine job.
Exactly.
And as far as the trailers style goes...I’d love to pretend that it’s Zach Snyder who is selling this movie as “action, action and cool”, but it’s not, and I think most of us know that. It’s the studio. They know they need to get people into the theatres, and I’m sure they will broaden the scope of their advertisement campaign soon enough.
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