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I'm going to boycott this. I'll see it, but only if I can find a download. Otherwise I'm waiting till video

Actually, that's a lie. I'll get super stoned and go on Tuesday. At least then I get my free drink and popcorn.

I'm planning to do something along those lines also. It should make the experience far more enjoyable and hopefully the THC will entice my thought process to overlook the inconstancies and bland acting/setting of the film.
 
I'm just gonna sneak in. If I like it, I may pay for a second viewing.
 
What a bunch of *****ES!

You're not a true fan if a few bad reviews makes you lose interest in watching Goku return after all these long years. I'll be there with my Goku action figure I got in 2000 and I'll be the happiest little fan in the world even if I'm alone and to hell with you if you don't see things my way!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

lol, i needed this laugh
 
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and some old korean movie.

LOL that movie sounds like its better than this new one.

Im gonna bootleg this new one and i NEVER EVER bootleg movies.
 
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lol, i needed this laugh

Glad to be of service my man.

I don't know what to think about dbe honestly. I'm at a strange place in my life when I'm trying to become an adult, whatever that means and I don't know whether it's still ok to be interested in this movie more-so than current events etc. I know that my credibility's shot to hell since I spent so long trolling this board, so I'm not even going to bother trying to convince anyone that it'll be any good. Still, to me that seems ok since DB's not about being high quality cinema to begin with. Those who expected that, why? DB's garbage, I'll admit it.

But when I was 11 it was the greatest thing ever, so that kid inside me will probably lose his **** when he sees it, otherwise I'll just strade stocks or some other adult stuff instead.
 
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Talking about myself for a paragraph is not something I’d like to do because I think my life deserves a retrospective, but because how I view this film needs some context. Recently I’ve seen a lot of reviews talking about how Watchmen changed how readers viewed comics and in some cases, changed their lives. Dragon Ball Z was my Watchmen.

One Sunday morning I woke up to see the first syndicated airing of Dragon Ball Z in the United States on (at the time) WB11. After just 24 minutes the direction of my life was completely turned around. DBZ sparked my interest in Japanese animation which led to the creation of my old DBZ website which provided the path to my being scouted for a job writing for a DBZ magazine which allowed me to save money for my first trip to Japan .

These days I speak fluent Japanese, live in a small country town in Japan with my wife who, bless her heart, moved out into the sticks with me from Yokohama , and teach English at a local high school. While now I don’t read much manga (besides DB’s spiritual successor One Piece) and I’ve all but given up on Japanese animation aside from Ghibli’s occasional offering, the role Dragon Ball played in inspiring me to make my adult life what it is, is irrefutable. I’ve grown to recognize the series’ many imperfections and I can’t remember the finer details of many of the story arcs anymore either, regardless, the series is very near and dear to me.

That is why I tried to view this film in two separate ways to do it justice, one as the long-time fan of the series and one as a long-time fan of film that knows nothing of the series. Hopefully you will find that by doing so I’ve given the film a fair chance to prove itself as something unique and not just the deflowering of that which DB fans around the world hold sacred.

Dragon Ball: Evolution is the attempt to give Dragon Ball a meaning or direction beyond simply getting stronger, forging friendships and showing bravery; the three classic elements of any successful comic printed on the pages of Shonen JUMP, the serial weekly comic magazine Dragon Ball was published in. When we were young boys, what did we love? Big things! Strong things! Things far more powerful and stronger than us! Dinosaurs! Godzilla! Robots! As we got older we learned to appreciate what it meant to be brave and stand up to bullies.

Years later when we filter into and out of high school, we learn the importance of friendship beyond just having someone to watch ‘the game’ with or play video games with. That’s why stories like Dragon Ball are so successful the world over, they appeal to something most adults and children can relate to on very basic levels.

DB:E tears most of that out and instead, asks us to accept somewhat familiar characters in a story about finding oneself and accepting your differences. Or wait, is it that having confidence in yourself will allow you to get the girl and oh yeah, perform some cool battle moves? Nonono, I’ve got it, it’s that love can bloom in the least likely of places between complete opposites. Actually I think it’s how listening to your elders might just save your life.

And it goes on like this.

Since when did Dragon Ball become an amalgamation of every Dreamworks CG flick ever made?

Take aside the ‘meh’ acting and the unbelievable scenarios our characters find themselves in that make ‘LOST’ coincidences seem downright normal, the biggest problem with the film is it suffers from a severe case of identity crisis. Someone or some group of people, thought it would be a good idea to throw a bunch of clichéd character development ideas at the wall and whatever stuck, they ran with. The awkward outcast in high school who doesn’t believe in his ability to grow, the wise grandfather whom the rambunctious teen ignores, the self-confident sophisticated girl who falls for a grungy uneducated lunk, the cold villain who has seemingly unlimited resources but… still somehow remains a step behind.

These and more are all there, and they’re all handled with the grace of a bull in a china shop. The ‘spark’ of love between Yamucha and Bulma was dealt with in one brief scene where they shared a thought, that it’s unfortunate they had knowledge of the world’s impending doom, and cupid’s arrow strikes! The two who previously couldn’t stand each other (all 2-3 scenes they were in) go for a kiss.

That’s what we’re dealing with.

“But wait!”, cries the ever vigilant fan, “Many things happen very quickly and with little explanation in the comic!”

Very true, and I’d be willing to give you that point IF this film wasn’t made with the intention of stiffing everything fans know and hold dear about the series.

I will not create a list of the holocaust unleashed on Dragon Ball canon within the film’s one hour and thirty-five minute running time. I never watched anything beyond trailers for fear of giving the film a poor chance without seeing a scene in context, but I assure you, there are things done and words uttered that will have you shuddering with rage at the liberties they took with the story.

Just performing the Kame Hame Ha has become like some sick bastard child of the Electric Slide and the Macarena.

Now those liberties were taken with the intention of making a deeper more believable story that they could market to a wide audience. That’s why Goku, an uneducated bumpkin, is in high school right? That’s why Chichi is a rich girl who, oh yeah, secretly practices kung fu instead of a mini Amazon right? That’s why Goku is all dreamy about girls when he thought breasts were just an extra butt right? That’s why the film is set on OUR Earth instead of a fantasy world right?

Nay.

While the film is attempting to create some overarching personal story growth story it’s handled so sloppily that no one over 10 could believe it for a moment. There’s so much CRAZY information being poured forth with strange names that unless you’re a long-time fan, it’s incredibly hard to keep up with who is who, what they can do and why they’re doing what they’re doing. This created and endless stream of explanations that are drastically different from the source material only serving to raise the blood pressure of fans even more.

The question I pose to Mr. Wong is, “Who is this movie made for?”

The fans in Japan ?

I saw the film on its advance opening night here. There were twelve of us in the theater. Three older men by themselves, a family of five, and another couple. When a movie is over in Japan , no one moves. Everyone stays glued to their seat and savors the list of names onscreen even if they can’t read them. The older men and family all left dead silent during the credits. The other couple left the theater after the lights went on, laughing as they went.

The fans in other countries?

Apparently not. I think many of them will agree with me. Actually I think they’ll be far more severe than I am.

The curious general public?

Impossible. There’s so much crazy information flying back and forth it’s a chore to keep track of it, UNLESS you were a fan going into it. And the weak attempts to give Dragon Ball themes like ‘love’ or ‘finding oneself’ comes off awkwardly when you’ve got characters throwing energy blasts and turning into apes.

I simply would love to know for WHOM this movie was intended.

The one cool thing I’m able to say about DB:E is that it has one cool DB-inspired fight. It’s a short scene but it’s the only scene in the film that felt lifted off the pages of the comic. It involves Goku refusing to lift a finger in a fight causing a reckless punk to total his own car. Classic Toriyama. Too bad I can’t say the same for the ‘climatic’ battle with the big screen debut of the Kame Hame Ha that is over before you can blink. There were days when we fantasized about a Hollywood CG Kame Hame Ha. This ain’t it folks.

Speaking of series hallmarks, there are small nods to bits and pieces of the original story but they seem forced. When I first noticed a ‘blink and you’ll miss it’ set of nudie mags by Roshi’s bed I though, “Hmm, clever.”, but they continued to force that one idea later on more and more while ignoring many other avenues. Early on the term ‘Dragon Ball Energy’ is coined which Bulma quips, “DBE….catchy!”, she might as well have looked directly into the camera and given a big ol’ wink.

The most painful part, even more moreso than the Hamasaki Ayumi cued roll to main cast roll, comes during a break in the credits when we watch a minute of footage of a minor character doing something that is so incredibly obvious, you know it can’t actually be what you think it is. You know they had to pay makeup artists, light technicians, cameramen, caterers, shoe-shiners and yes-men all for this one final scene that has to be so spectacular it will leave us wanting more of this punishment. And when it’s revealed that it’s exactly what you thought it was, you just have to laugh long and out loud.

Dragon Ball: Evolution is a terrible film for both DB fans and as a standalone film. It’s not unwatchable, but it’s definitely in the same league as Street Fighter circa JCVD which means you’ll want to gather your friends and have a great laugh together.

With respect to the thesps, kudos to Chow and Joon. Both had a lot of fun with their role and tried really hard to make their roles seem close to the source characters, especially Joon. The problem for Joon, not so much Chow, was the script refraining him from acting more like the character Yamucha would, particularly around females. Chow seemed to have a blast, it just would have been nice if they coached him on how to properly pronounce ‘Gohan’. Chatwin’s Goku is not the Goku you know from the comic. He doesn’t do a poor job on screen, he just does a poor source Goku. Emmy Rossum’s Bulma takes her part far too seriously creating a nerdy instead of perky Bulma and Jamie Chung’s Chichi is just kind of there onscreen. Worst line-reading goes to Randall Duk Kim who was clearly overacting trying to do far too much with the little screen time he had.

Dragon Ball remains a cornerstone in my life and with the start of a comic-accurate animated edit of the series hitting the airwaves in Japan this April it will be interesting to experience it once again. As for live action films? My wish would be for a reboot.

Please?

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My review 5.5/10
The good- Like the ki effects and the final battle because it was very dragonball with the rocky mountain areas where most battles take place. Yamcha was pretty good wished he would have used the Wolf Fang fist. Bulma was decent even though she was looking like her future son. Roshi was spot on only the look was a little disappointing.

The bad- The whole high school/Chi Chi love angle. It was really unnecessary it did not drive the characterization any further or helped move the plot along. Chi Chi and Goku's dialouge was terrible and they both were delivered as if they were rehearsing.

The WTF? Again with the Asian babies growing up to be Caucasian. Piccolo was barely in the movie and did anything. Did he even use his sword? Mai wasn't needed at all but just some eye candy.

The movie takes place in a period of 8 days. Goku trains with Roshi for an hour at the least. Roshi tells he the Kamehameha is the last of the airbending techniques yet he wants him to light torches. Roshi's Kamehameha is way different from Goku's and both deviant from the anime/magna.

Oozaru looks pretty cool I liked the design. But you can see his chest and the gi opens up because he is a huge monster yet when Goku returns his gi is in perfect place.

How it could have been better. Krillin a rival to Goku spent atleast 15 minutes showing them train together. Better focus on ki and the proper technique of Kamehameha. Goku having a tail and more goofy attitude. Yamcha they could have gave him a pet cat and uses the wolf fang fist. Bulma full head of blue hair with different hairstyles during the movie. Roshi more cooky old guy antics. Piccolo more evil and Kami.
 
You know, this sounds like a cheesy fun B Movie type experience. Maybe I will go see this movie in the theaters. In fact maybe I'll make it a Double feature along with Watchmen.

*Edit* Crap! This movie doesn't open in wide release until April 8th. :(
 
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My review 5.5/10
The good- Like the ki effects and the final battle because it was very dragonball with the rocky mountain areas where most battles take place. Yamcha was pretty good wished he would have used the Wolf Fang fist. Bulma was decent even though she was looking like her future son. Roshi was spot on only the look was a little disappointing.

The bad- The whole high school/Chi Chi love angle. It was really unnecessary it did not drive the characterization any further or helped move the plot along. Chi Chi and Goku's dialouge was terrible and they both were delivered as if they were rehearsing.

The WTF? Again with the Asian babies growing up to be Caucasian. Piccolo was barely in the movie and did anything. Did he even use his sword? Mai wasn't needed at all but just some eye candy.

The movie takes place in a period of 8 days. Goku trains with Roshi for an hour at the least. Roshi tells he the Kamehameha is the last of the airbending techniques yet he wants him to light torches. Roshi's Kamehameha is way different from Goku's and both deviant from the anime/magna.

Oozaru looks pretty cool I liked the design. But you can see his chest and the gi opens up because he is a huge monster yet when Goku returns his gi is in perfect place.

How it could have been better. Krillin a rival to Goku spent atleast 15 minutes showing them train together. Better focus on ki and the proper technique of Kamehameha. Goku having a tail and more goofy attitude. Yamcha they could have gave him a pet cat and uses the wolf fang fist. Bulma full head of blue hair with different hairstyles during the movie. Roshi more cooky old guy antics. Piccolo more evil and Kami.

Where did you see it?
 
so piccolo doesnt use hes sword?

deleted scene...................


the movie takes place in 8 days and goku has very little of training? hahahahhahahha
 
Only seen the last 27 minutes of it and it was actually worse than I imagined. You know, after all these questionable choices have been made, like sending Goku to highschool, making characters unrecognizable, westernizing the crap out of it and practically saying **** you to the fans, I just expected a decent final fight. Because I thought they might have put a little effort into that.

Every cheap fight in 'The Legend of Chun Li' tops the fight between Piccolo and Goku. There wasn't even much of a fight.

After Goku retains his mind and changes back from his Oozaru form, you have him and Piccolo exchanging Ki blasts. Then they charge at each other, fly up into the air and hit each other a couple times in the face until both of them get smashed though a mountain. Seconds later both get up, you get the horrible Oozaru speech and after two big charged ki attacks, the fight's over...

WHAT. THE. ****.

Where the heck was the damn martial arts?
 
Well in the anime after the Piccolo saga, there was BARELY any martail arts. They wanted a DBZ type fight.
 
there is plenty of martial arts in DBZ. they just shifted the focus from comedy to ki blasts and power moves. regardless this is DB and not DBZ. even if it was DBZ, are you really going to argue that a DB-related movie shouldn't have focused on martial arts?
 
Well all I saw in a DBZ fight was poer ups, ki balst and just plain punches flying around. They were just unleashing crazy amounts of punches. I'm fine with the final battle but it could have been longer.
 
There feels like 15-20 minutes scenes are cut out. I want to see the other version of the Piccolo fight scene.
 
Well in the anime after the Piccolo saga, there was BARELY any martail arts. They wanted a DBZ type fight.

They hit each other a couple times in the face... And it was not like it was super fast like in DBZ. They grabbed each other and traded like 5-6 blows. That's it. That was the only physical combat in the entire, super short, final fight. Even if DBZ was less heavy on the classic martial arts as in DB, at least they still pulled off some badass stunts.
 
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Oh well. In your mind its bad and my mind its good enough.:cwink:
 
Denial much? I can't even understand how this could be up for discussion. Screw deviating opinions. It was bad. They grab and hit each other 5-6 times in the face max. How could that even be remotely good enough?
 
They should have taken more from the actual dragonball fight itself. On the show that battle was so epic. In the movie there's isn't alot of fistacuffs...

I enjoyed the bullys vs. goku battle more. That felt and looked more like a db/dbz fight too me..

I REALLY HOPE THEY DO A SEQUEL AND MAKE IT A BILLION TIMES BETTER~
 

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