The Official Rate and Review Thread

[dark_b]

yeah...as much flack as the Wackowski's got for the Matrix sequels, they're actually great writers. their first movie (Bound) had lots of twists and Speed Racer had a surprisingly interesting story. with as many cool and wacky ideas as DB has, i'm sure they would've made something that could breath new life into the DB mythos. i can't even imagine how they would've approached doing Shenlong!!!

i was actually shocked how they made a story about speed racer. i mean its a cartoon with racing cars.
the movie IMO had an AMAZING family story.

 

[dark_b]

this is proof that SSJ hair can be done.


if you dont have straigt hair they can use wigs. of course there are bad wigs(wolverine in X-3). but there are also good quality wigs.

 

[DorkyFresh]

i was actually shocked how they made a story about speed racer. i mean its a cartoon with racing cars.
the movie IMO had an AMAZING family story.

that's what i'm talking about!! they took a VERY simple story and managed to put substance and heart into it. not to mention, they dish out some awesome dialogue every once in a while...

"It doesn't matter if racing never changes. What matters is if we let racing change us. Every one of us has to find a reason to do this. You don't climb into a T-180 to be a driver. You do it because you're driven." - Racer X

"I couldn't have been more proud of you, son. Not because you won, but because you stood up, you weren't afraid, and you did what you thought was right.

I saw my son become a man. I watched a man with courage and integrity drive the pants off of every other driver on that road. This is not meaningless. This is the reason for a father's life." - Pops Racer

DB:E couldn't even dream of having this level of verbal prowess and they didn't even need to use complicated words to make meaningful sentences.

 

[CaptainClown]

this is proof that SSJ hair can be done.


if you dont have straigt hair they can use wigs. of course there are bad wigs(wolverine in X-3). but there are also good quality wigs.

to be honest I don't think so, for me it proves it can't be done. There is nothing more unnatural then trying to replicate anime hair to the point where it is very distracting

 

[dark_b]

dorky:
i will admit that the movie had some campy lines and acting. the kid was always campy. but hte movie was set in a futuristic anime colorful world where it didnt stand out.
i personal didnt like the campy stuff. i also think that from WB point the movie should be more realistic for the masses. but i like the story and i like the action. the casting was out of this world. everyone fits . everyone looks like in the cartoon very much.

it bombed. on the other hand 300 didnt bomb. its about finding a balance.

 

[dark_b]

to be honest I don't think so, for me it proves it can't be done. There is nothing more unnatural then trying to replicate anime hair to the point where it is very distracting

well in DB:E it wouldnt fit.

lets not forget that if DB was done right it would be completely fantasy. so would it be really so wrong if unnutural hair is in a fantasy movie? i respect what you think.

 

[dark_b]

hair from speed racer

 

[CaptainClown]

well in DB:E it wouldnt fit.

lets not forget that if DB was done right it would be completely fantasy. so would it be really so wrong if unnutural hair is in a fantasy movie? i respect what you think.

well even for fantasys it kind of bothers me when they and pull it off as beign casual but it is clearly maintained. I guess it comes to personal preference, and probably why I hate most cosplay since they try to make it more anime accurate rather then try and doing it in real life so it seems natural.

 

[CaptainClown]

hair from speed racer

looks like someone photoshopped an asian guy onto storm.

 

[dark_b]

isnt this suspend of belief?
if the hair loks the same after the battle or after gettign wet i agree. b
butu i wouldnt have a problem if its styled like that.

 

[DorkyFresh]

to be honest I don't think so, for me it proves it can't be done. There is nothing more unnatural then trying to replicate anime hair to the point where it is very distracting

just because they stand out in those pictures doesn't mean it will be distracting. i was watching the Last Dragon the other night and one of the scenes has an actress that had red, blue, yellow, and pink in her hair all at the same time...yet her wild hair didn't distract me from paying attention to the important acting and the drama that was taking place in that scene. also, the last winners of America's Best Dance Crew had some wild hair that was definitely a distraction at first but not enough to distract from their dance routines.

wild and unusual hair is mildly distracting at first, but you eventually become used to it.

well even for fantasys it kind of bothers me when they and pull it off as beign casual but it is clearly maintained. I guess it comes to personal preference, and probably why I hate most cosplay since they try to make it more anime accurate rather then try and doing it in real life so it seems natural.

i understand wanting hair to look natural, but there are certain characters where it's just not possible (Wolverine). the Saiyans have crazy hair, there's just no getting around that. it's not the most important aspect of DB, however, it's one of DB's visual signatures. everyone knows they're looking at an image from DB because of the stylized hair. if you take that away from DB then you might as well take away Goku's gi, Vegeta's armor, and Piccolo's antenna.

 

[CaptainClown]

I kind of have my limits.. I mean when I see a giant marshmellow in downtown new york, ya sure I am down...When I see some bad wig on someones head...there is my limit. I am open to everything, but when a character has hair like that and they call it their natural hair or their own that is where I pull out and say NO that is the final straw. I will not play along with your movie anymore. I will not allow you to immerse me in your story...I will watch from a critical eye and be very annoyed by you.

 

[CaptainClown]

just because they stand out in those pictures doesn't mean it will be distracting. i was watching the Last Dragon the other night and one of the scenes has an actress that had red, blue, yellow, and pink in her hair all at the same time...yet her wild hair didn't distract me from paying attention to the important acting and the drama that was taking place in that scene. also, the last winners of America's Best Dance Crew had some wild hair that was definitely a distraction at first but not enough to distract from their dance routines.

wild and unusual hair is mildly distracting at first, but you eventually become used to it.

well I am not talking about wild hair. Wild hair is actually fine by me....but model anime hair just pisses me off. There is a difference of just having a pink mohawk or crazy shaved braided thing like tank girl and then a comparison of hair like Goku down to the last spike. It tells me that someone was spending 4 hours making sure this hair is working. I like the hair to seem like these people quite literally don't do anything to their hair and it seemlessly fits with what was intended...like wolverine.

 

[xwolverine2]

looks like someone photoshopped an asian guy onto storm.

lmao!

 

[DorkyFresh]

well I am not talking about wild hair. Wild hair is actually fine by me....but model anime hair just pisses me off. There is a difference of just having a pink mohawk or crazy shaved braided thing like tank girl and then a comparison of hair like Goku down to the last spike. It tells me that someone was spending 4 hours making sure this hair is working. I like the hair to seem like these people quite literally don't do anything to their hair and it seemlessly fits with what was intended...like wolverine.

well, i don't think Wolverine's hair looks very natural. it actually looks like it takes a lot of hair spray, but that's besides the point. the point is that Saiyan's just have that kind of hair. Akira Toriyama never gave us a reason why they do so unfortunately we just have to deal with it. however, if you want to properly portray Goku on screen you can't just give him any natural hair. Goku is a crazy guy and his hair should reflect that. i can understand not wanting his hair to be a literal representation of the manga/anime, where he has 3 foot spikes, but the hair has to resemble the 2D character's hair or else you're changing something that's vital to the visuals of DB.

besides, this movie has already established that injecting realism into DB is something that should be kept to a minimum. giving Goku real world hair would've been the icing on this crap cake.

 

[CaptainClown]

well, i don't think Wolverine's hair looks very natural. it actually looks like it takes a lot of hair spray, but that's besides the point. the point is that Saiyan's just have that kind of hair. Akira Toriyama never gave us a reason why they do so unfortunately we just have to deal with it. however, if you want to properly portray Goku on screen you can't just give him any natural hair. Goku is a crazy guy and his hair should reflect that. i can understand not wanting his hair to be a literal representation of the manga/anime, where he has 3 foot spikes, but the hair has to resemble the 2D character's hair or else you're changing something that's vital to the visuals of DB.

besides, this movie has already established that injecting realism into DB is something that should be kept to a minimum. giving Goku real world hair would've been the icing on this crap cake.

If you were afraid of the affects of realism on DB then don't make it live action. Whenever something becomes portrayed by live actors has already started becoming realistic. To say "oh well this is a fantasy we can let it pass" just doesn't quite cut it all the time. As for wolverines hair looks like guys i know who just gelled the side once and moved on. It didn't look to me that someone was there gelling each and every spike in order to maintain accuracy in the comic

also I never wanted Goku's hair to look like a normal persons. however I don't think an accurate anime hair style is the way to go. Whenever you do those individual spike things it looks entirely like there was a good portion of the movie budget in order to maintain that.

 

[DorkyFresh]

If you were afraid of the affects of realism on DB then don't make it live action. Whenever something becomes portrayed by live actors has already started becoming realistic.

which is why i said that, when adapting something to live action such as DB, realism should be kept to a MINIMUM

also I never wanted Goku's hair to look like a normal persons. however I don't think an accurate anime hair style is the way to go. Whenever you do those individual spike things it looks entirely like there was a good portion of the movie budget in order to maintain that.

well then i sort of agree with you. i wouldn't want something that looks like it would take 4 hours, but imo that manip of dark_b's doesn't look bad at all. it looks like that hair could've been styled in less than 15 minutes and that would've been fine for me in a live action DB movie. i don't think anyone here would want a 100% faithful hairstyle with every individual spike in place but those shots of the Bleach anime turned musical are the perfect example of how faithful anime hairstyles can be pulled off realistically imo.

 

[cronosred]

Maybe they are thinking long term. They might not make the budget back in a matter of weeks, but maybe they believe they can earn it back in a couple years with DVD sales, soundtracks, toys, games, etc.

But most importantly, they wanted to hold onto the rights. So they thought lets release a ****** product and with luck earn the money back in years, and still hang onto the rights for another movie.

I can't see that as being wise logic for a studio. It seems like Fox feels they need to cater to the ADD crowd to make money and although that doesn't seem to be working out well for them they keep doing it convinced that's what people want and in the mean time their turning 20th Century Fox into a joke, you would think the board members would realise they need to make changes in management and try to bring Fox back to it's glory.

 

[Spidey_D.N.]

Just thinking of what "could've been" makes me dislike DB:E even more. It takes a good amount of versatility to go from the Matrix trilogy to something like Speed Racer imo. They would have taken such an interesting path for Dragonball with properly omitting and persevering contents from the source material to maintain faithfulness while adapting a suitable story for film. This would have pleased the fans and also have a great deal of appeal for the general audiences.

IMHO, I doubt the general audiences would ever appeal to any live-action movie with characters with big colorful-spiky hair and have special blasting powers from birth or whatever. Anime/Manga-fans, definitely, but for the general casual audiences, I highly doubt it would ever received will once released in theaters. As an anime/manga fan myself, I’m not saying all anime/mangas can’t be made in to great live-action movies, however not all anime/mangas can be made in to a workable live-action movie with out some kind of realistic appeal to it. Animes like Ghost in the Shell, Death Note (Yes, I know there’re two live-action movies already made and a side-story one), MS Gundam, Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop, and éX-Driver are a few examples of that can be made 100% faithful and accurate into great live-action blockbusters. However, animes/mangas like Naruto, Pokemon, Digimon, Bleach, Dragonball (including Z and GT), Yu-Gi-Oh! and One Piece would never work as a live-action movie and should stay as it is.... but, like I said, it's my opinion.

 

[Kaizer104]

IMHO, I doubt the general audiences would ever appeal to any live-action movie with characters with big colorful-spiky hair and have special blasting powers from birth or whatever. Anime/Manga-fans, definitely, but for the general casual audiences, I highly doubt it would ever received will once released in theaters. As an anime/manga fan myself, I’m not saying all anime/mangas can’t be made in to great live-action movies, however not all anime/mangas can be made in to a workable live-action movie with out some kind of realistic appeal to it. Animes like Ghost in the Shell, Death Note (Yes, I know there’re two live-action movies already made and a side-story one), MS Gundam, Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop, and éX-Driver are a few examples of that can be made 100% faithful and accurate into great live-action blockbusters. However, animes/mangas like Naruto, Pokemon, Digimon, Bleach, Dragonball (including Z and GT), Yu-Gi-Oh! and One Piece would never work as a live-action movie and should stay as it is.... but, like I said, it's my opinion.

I disagree to a degree; Bleach doesn't require much change if any at all. YuGiOh obviously less so than Bleach; YuGiOh with more basis in the original content of the manga (when Dark Yugi was sadistic) could be quite effective. But a very good number of anime/manga are not hard to be made faithful and accurate into live-action blockbusters.

Pokemon and Digimon could be translated onto film but require a good amount of budget (likely over the amount used in Spider-Man 3); you'd have to make the monsters believable (hardest challenge, especially for Pokemon where disturbing-looking monsters are normal for society). Now if you were to suggest something like, say, Bobo-bo Bobo Bobo as liveaction...that...might have some trouble... In this, I do agree.

Now, Dragonball could be translated in the right hands. And this is really what some emphasis is about. If Speed Racer could be translated from Mach GOGO/Speed Racer, then there's a good amount that could be done.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

IMHO, I doubt the general audiences would ever appeal to any live-action movie with characters with big colorful-spiky hair and have special blasting powers from birth or whatever. Anime/Manga-fans, definitely, but for the general casual audiences, I highly doubt it would ever received will once released in theaters. As an anime/manga fan myself, I’m not saying all anime/mangas can’t be made in to great live-action movies, however not all anime/mangas can be made in to a workable live-action movie with out some kind of realistic appeal to it. Animes like Ghost in the Shell, Death Note (Yes, I know there’re two live-action movies already made and a side-story one), MS Gundam, Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop, and éX-Driver are a few examples of that can be made 100% faithful and accurate into great live-action blockbusters. However, animes/mangas like Naruto, Pokemon, Digimon, Bleach, Dragonball (including Z and GT), Yu-Gi-Oh! and One Piece would never work as a live-action movie and should stay as it is.... but, like I said, it's my opinion.

Naruto could absolutely work on film. Now obviously some things would have to be changed in terms of the structure (like the Chunin Exam arc is obviously too long to be a film) and the timeline (since the actors will be aging faster than the characters), but an adapted version could easily work. At its heart Naruto is basically Harry Potter with ninjas, and that is one of the most successful film franchises ever.

YuGiOh could also work to a limited extent. Ironically, what wouldn't is the card game which it is most well known for. But the best arcs (Death T, Monster World RPG & The Memory World) would work with minor modifications if you can get past the marketing problem of people thinking it is only about a kids card game.

Dragonball's big problem has always been the age of the characters. The story could be done with no problem, but Goku (and later Gohan, Goten & Trunks) being a kid is a major, major problem in live action. You can't have villains beating up little kids in live action without it simply being disturbing, so you inevitably have to end up aging him to a teenager at which point he really isn't the Goku we know anymore. Even in terms of the anime, Gohan becoming a teenager is the point where the show jumps the shark. It is never as good after that.

 

[DarkestHero]

It was Horrible

1/10

 

[craigdbfan]

Another Dragonball:Evolution review from www.mmosite.com

Excerpts from the review:

Otakus, fans, kids, families, film critics...or just about everyone who saw Dragonball had their suspicions right. There were two words to describe the movie: EPIC FAIL. It was clearly a studio's greedy attempt, solely relying on the famous anime title as their means of attracting viewers.

Everything about Dragonball Evolution failed miserably. What seemed to be the most important factor for a movie's success, the story proved to be the worst thing since Stephanie Meyer. There were more questions than answers in the script. A lot of material from the original Dragonball anime and manga were lifted off and unintelligibly pasted. The result? Trash. Nothing in the story is explained. Events just happen, like Piccolo's release from his seal or Goku's appointment as the "savior of the world." Assuming you're someone without any knowledge of Dragonball's famous existence, you'll find yourself continually asking the why's and how's. And even if you're one of the hardcore Dragonball fans, you'd still be asking the same thing. Characters are just caught up in a wild goose chase and sort of allowed themselves to go with the flow.

As the credits rolled by, you’ve just wasted an hour and a half’s time of your life, and it’s that time of time-wasting that you wished never happened. In reiteration, you’ll come to realize Dragonball Evolution was the worst thing since Twilight or 9/11 or the birth of Hitler (and yes I’m exaggerating). It is a rundown movie with a script formed by gluing rejects from the paper shredder bin, and acting so bad that it insults the original characters. Fans of the series would wish for the Kamehameha to hit the people responsible for this distasteful treat. For those new to the Dragonball fare, it will be sad to see them generalize the movie with the original series. Dragonball Evolution is a total disaster.

And yes, the movie ending has hints for a sequel…

 

[Legion]

This movie is a disgrace. I'm embarrassed people know that I was actually interested in seeing this movie.

 

[huzzah]

Fans of the series would wish for the Kamehameha to hit the people responsible for this distasteful treat

I was thinking a Spirit Bomb would take 'em all out in one go.