The Official SDCC Coverage Thread

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I agree Jamon, I think it's time we put that, Routh is really Singer's lover thing, out to pasture.

Routh is a married man and there is absolutely no proof that he is gay or that there was a "casting couch" scenerio. Thats just juvenile messageboard thinking.

If that isn't what CH is hinting at, I apologize.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Hard to say. My friend was at Comic Con before Snakes on a Plane opened, and the panel for that film was standing-room only. And it showed us exactly how much Internet hype adds to a film - about $5 million.

TDK has a higher re-watchability factor, and good Internet hype certainly doesn't hurt, but the hardcore fanbase can only add so much. What's really keeping TDK going is the general public's reaction to it. It's almost frightening how people mention it in everyday life. I was at Jiffy Lube the other day, and someone else in the waiting room asked if we had seen the new Batman movie, after a plot synopsis showed up on the TV program. The guy had seen it twice and he wasn't even aware that it was Ledger on screen the first time he saw it.


I personally found Supes' reasoning for not saying goodbye to Lois seriously lame. And I'm supposed to be the demographic which eats this up.

Fair enough t:.

I agree Jamon, I think it's time we put that, Routh is really Singer's lover thing, out to pasture.

Routh is a married man and there is absolutely no proof that he is gay or that there was a "casting couch" scenerio. Thats just juvenile messageboard thinking.

If that isn't what CH is hinting at, I apologize.

Well said ISS, its a stupid and childish rumour anyway. And yes, if i'm am wrong in my assumptions CH, i apologise.

 

[hippie_hunter]

LOL. I don't think SR was faithful to the character of Superman AT ALL, specially his motivations and reasons for leaving EARTH or not saying goodbye to Lois. Lois wasn't the character from the comics at all. There was no spunk, no chemistry with Superman. Nothing.

The Superman of Superman Returns was very faithful to the Donner interpretations of Superman. This is a Superman who is very human inside, fallible, and makes mistakes like leaving Earth. He didn't say good bye to Lois because he couldn't bear to do so. And it also keeps to the core of the Superman of the comics. Very human inside even though he isn't. He protects the entire world even though he is based in Metropolis. Deep down he is a good person wanting to do good. Very powerful. Raised by the Kents. Etc.

Though I do agree that Lois' character was rather lacking in the script.

Lex Luthor was a joke in the movie with his one liners and looking for land. THat is just the WORST interpretation of the character.

The Lex Luthor of Superman Returns is again the same Lex Luthor of the Donner films. That version of Lex was motivated by real estate. His crimes in both Superman the Movie and Superman II were motivated by land.

In the comics he is probably very smart, a scientist and a great criminial. Not someone who hangs around with stupid thugs and ****es like Kitty.

Lex in the comics lately has been acting more like a typical criminal who hangs around with stupid thugs like Bizarro and Parasite.[/quote]

It even fails at that.

Ummm...what

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Agreed with all of this, SR wasnt any more unfaithful than other CB movie adaptations have been, yet all of the others get a free pass for some reason, when SR doesnt.

 

[hippie_hunter]

^Agreed with all of this, SR wasnt any more unfaithful than other CB movie adaptations have been, yet all of the others get a free pass for some reason, when SR doesnt.

I know, there is no such thing as a 100% comic book adaptation. Unless of course it's a Zack Snyder movie, Batman Begins and the Dark Knight free passes. The first two Spider-Man movies get free passes. Iron Man gets a free pass. But you have people complaining about Superman Returns doing the exact same thing *****ing about it

 

[SatEL]

I agree Jamon, I think it's time we put that, Routh is really Singer's lover thing, out to pasture.

Routh is a married man and there is absolutely no proof that he is gay or that there was a "casting couch" scenerio. Thats just juvenile messageboard thinking.

If that isn't what CH is hinting at, I apologize.

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh dont really want to get into this but lots of gay men get married and some even have kids, until one day the wife sees her husband pounding Enrique the pool boy in way's she thought were reserved for her. Although with that said Routh doesnt seem like the gay type to me but hey of topic anyway back on topic SR sucked lets make way for a reboot.

 

[SatEL]

Ummm...what

It even fails at that.

 

[Anita18]

I know, there is no such thing as a 100% comic book adaptation. Unless of course it's a Zack Snyder movie, Batman Begins and the Dark Knight free passes. The first two Spider-Man movies get free passes. Iron Man gets a free pass. But you have people complaining about Superman Returns doing the exact same thing *****ing about it

Of course we won't ever get an 100% accurate comic book film adaptation of anything. It's impossible, because of the constraints of the medium.

I think what some people (including me) took issue with was that the characters in SR didn't match up to the basic tenets of the characters they were based on.

Superman not telling Lois about his departure was, in my opinion, downright irresponsible. Lex's land grab scheme was not intelligent.

I'm not terribly familiar with the comics history of either character, but Supes is known as the Big Blue Boy Scout. He's always supposed to do the right thing. And Lex, well, I thought Lex was supposed to be a smart villain. How else could he go toe-to-toe with the most powerful being on earth?

I can see how people could take issue with how Bruce Wayne was handled in BB or how Joker was not bleached in TDK, but neither change watered down what the essence of each character was. Bruce Wayne still became a well-trained, hard-working vigilante inspired by his parents' murders despite the fact that he had to be shown the path instead of forging it himself, and Joker is still (in his own words) an "agent of chaos."

 

[Max Newlander]

Lets face facts here, Superman Returns was a failure. There is no other way to spin it. It wasn't good enough from start to end. The character of Superman in Returns was NOT the character I grew up with.

The fact that 20 years after the last release there should have been and probably was a MASSIVE appetite for a new Superman movie. $200m after a gazillion weeks in release playing to about 3 cinema's in the end is a million miles away from being successful for such an iconic character, especially when Spider-man is swinging his way to $300-400m everytime he graces the silver screen.

Singer missed the boat. The fact that so many fans HATE the film is hard evidence. Fair play many liked it, but not enough. It failed at the box Office cos nobody wanted to see it twice and the word of mouth was anything other than positive. Most people I know didn't like it, they REALLY wanted to, but couldn't bring themselves to see past the mess it was.

Batman Begins was top drawer in everyway, hence it has pretty much universal agreement that everyone thought it was excellent. Matching a new Superman at the Box Office so soon after the truely vile B&R is unbelievable, or just another fact that proves Superman Returns was a dud. The Dark Knight is reaping the rewards of Begins being so good, people had/have faith that TDK was going to kick ass thanks to the quality of its predecessor . This is of course something a Superman sequel can't rely on.

If Warners had ANY kind of faith in Returns and Singer then Brian and Warner Bro's would be going full steam into Man of Steel. It made the same money as Batman Begins, and that movie got the green light to a sequel pretty much straight away. Why are they not showing that same commitment to Singer and a Superman sequel..?!...oh because they know it was a steaming pile of s**t that very few loved.

Wait 10 years then give it to another director and try again, maybe Nolan will be free by then.....

 

[BMM]

...maybe Nolan will be free by then.....

That is a terrible idea.

 

[Max Newlander]

That is a terrible idea.

It was said in tongue and cheek, what I meant was that Batman has a director that has made The Dark Knight franchise a critic and box office success, Superman just needs to find his.

 

[MovieGeekFreak]

what they say at CC?

 

[GreenKToo]

nothing at all.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I know, there is no such thing as a 100% comic book adaptation. Unless of course it's a Zack Snyder movie, Batman Begins and the Dark Knight free passes. The first two Spider-Man movies get free passes. Iron Man gets a free pass. But you have people complaining about Superman Returns doing the exact same thing *****ing about it

Exactly, all of the most highly praised CB were just as unfaithful as SR yet you people praising them, yet criticising SR, i just dont get it, i really dont.

Of course we won't ever get an 100% accurate comic book film adaptation of anything. It's impossible, because of the constraints of the medium.

I think what some people (including me) took issue with was that the characters in SR didn't match up to the basic tenets of the characters they were based on.

Superman not telling Lois about his departure was, in my opinion, downright irresponsible. Lex's land grab scheme was not intelligent.

I'm not terribly familiar with the comics history of either character, but Supes is known as the Big Blue Boy Scout. He's always supposed to do the right thing. And Lex, well, I thought Lex was supposed to be a smart villain. How else could he go toe-to-toe with the most powerful being on earth?

I can see how people could take issue with how Bruce Wayne was handled in BB or how Joker was not bleached in TDK, but neither change watered down what the essence of each character was. Bruce Wayne still became a well-trained, hard-working vigilante inspired by his parents' murders despite the fact that he had to be shown the path instead of forging it himself, and Joker is still (in his own words) an "agent of chaos."

But if you read the comics you would realise that Superman can and HAS made mistakes, many of them in the past, he endangered the world in For Tomorrow by activating a device that made 1 million people dissapear when it was previously activated and Superman had NO idea it would do the same again. What he did was such a risk that Wonder Woman went to the fortress of solitude with a magic sword with the intention of stopping Superman by ANY means necessary, this lead to them destroying the fortress in the ensuing fight.

I could name many, MANY more similar things he has done in the comics, so he can make mistakes. Yet the one's he makes in SR are somehow worse? Come on.

 

[Anita18]

But if you read the comics you would realise that Superman can and HAS made mistakes, many of them in the past, he endangered the world in For Tomorrow by activating a device that made 1 million people dissapear when it was previously activated and Superman had NO idea it would do the same again. What he did was such a risk that Wonder Woman went to the fortress of solitude with a magic sword with the intention of stopping Superman by ANY means necessary, this lead to them destroying the fortress in the ensuing fight.

I could name many, MANY more similar things he has done in the comics, so he can make mistakes. Yet the one's he makes in SR are somehow worse? Come on.

Accidental mistakes are fine. He isn't an all-knowing being. It's impossible for him to know everything. I did read Kingdom Come and found that to be a powerful Superman story, because he's trying his darnedest to do the right thing, but he just doesn't know what it is.

Not telling Lois he was leaving is not a mistake. He made a conscious decision not to. That was irresponsible. Unless he just forgot about her, in which case he shouldn't be surprised that she tried to forget about him and moved on accordingly. But there's no indication in the film that he felt that way, otherwise his explanation would be something like, "Well, maybe he just wasn't that into you."

 

[\S/uperman]

As soon as a month or two after possible?

Just wondering when someone of you think we will get some official news to get excited about.

 

[BH/HHH]

Whats to say we won't hear something at Comic Con, we just don't know.

 

[\S/uperman]

I think there is no way Comic Con would bring any announcement forth. Could be some minor comments from an interview or two. It's going to be a showcase for GL most likely.

 

[\S/]

I would've have said that until the last few weeks. We've been hearing lots of insider info, some of it seemingly true, some of it crap.

I think we're going to find out who our Superman will be next weekend, as I think he's been cast. 2010 is almost over and the WB has a deadline in making this film.

\S/

 

[GreenKToo]

Not till after the con, or so thats whats been said.

 

[Webhead2006]

for me if there isnt any director reveal at comic con. which from most we all do figure probably nothing on superman besides maybe confirming again winter 2012 target date for release, and maybe some new details on script. But i would say for director we have to have person locked in no later then end of sept. Cause i would say they would want to at least have a good 5-6 months to do prep work and then get filming the film no later then june/july 2011. Plus then if we get soemone locked in as director by end of next month. Officially more casting if it hasnt already been happening behind the scenes can get into full motion between sept-dec range. So at least they could lock in characters like clark/superman, lois lane, and maybe lex luthor first and give them all plently of time for prep work and all that. Then other secondary characters could be getting cast as late as just prior to filming starting up.

 

[\S/uperman]

First I think they will announce a director like rumored J. Nolan before the actor.

I would think they release a list of possible candidates before announcing who they cast. Even if they don't cast the fan choice, they would want to know who to totally avoid (like Padalecki)

 

[Comicfan]

I think there is no way Comic Con would bring any announcement forth. Could be some minor comments from an interview or two. It's going to be a showcase for GL most likely.

I agree, this is GL Comic Con

 

[maenalus]

I expect a directer will be confirmed by September.

 

[Comicfan]

I expect a directer will be confirmed by September.

I think in NYC CC DC will announce more things about Batman, Superman and maybe Flash or Wonder Woman