The Official SDCC Coverage Thread

[mego joe]

IMO, I think they were also counting on the supposedly 'huge' popularity of Superman (or the Donner films),

And that would account for the good opening weekend

and the film did very well on openning day, or weekend, but nowhere as huge as they wanted it or thought it would.

But once people actually saw it word got out and it was over.

I really think SR is a great film, but it was too serious and mature, perhaps, for a summer movie; it wasn't what lots of people expected, myself included (I got something better than that). I think the majority of people, especially the young ones, were expecting an action driven film, and not a character driven one, I guess.

Or perhaps they were expecting an interesting and exciting film instead of a slow boring one.
Or just expecting a good Superman film.

 

[I Am The Knight]

this is not the whole thing. they singed on october 2006 a contract where singer gets payed not matter what.

so in 2006 after BO numbers they were 100% about the sequel. then the other camp came.

Exactly. And if they go for a reboot, and fire him, they have to pay him. They gave him a pay or play contract worth 10 million I believe?

 

[I Am The Knight]

Here's the news bit from SUperhero HYpe where Robinov talks about hearing NOlan's pitch for the sequel, date? October 11, 2005. 4 months after BB release.

Robinov: Chris Nolan wasn't the obvious choice. Alan trusted that Chris' vision -- the tone, the setting and his skill as director and storyteller -- would ultimately give us the best movie. Chris is going to come in and tell us what the next "Batman" will be today. It all comes down to filmmakers like Alfonso Cuaron on "Harry Potter," or Curtis Hanson on "Lucky You" or Niki Caro on "North Country."


http://www.superherohype.com/news/supermannews.php?id=3545


On February 23, 2006 we have the announcement that Nolan's brother is writing the sequel.

While neither director's deal is closed, the studio has hired Jonathan Nolan -- Christopher's brother -- to write the screenplay for the untitled "Batman" project

"Begins" co-writers David Goyer and Christopher Nolan wrote a treatment for the sequel.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/supermannews.php?id=3890

On JUly 31, 2006 a year and a mont after the release of BB, the sequel was not only greenlit, Ledger had been cast as the Joker and the title announced.

As a follow up to last year's blockbuster Batman Begins, Christopher Nolan is set to direct Warner Bros. Pictures' The Dark Knight, written by Jonathan Nolan, based on a story by Christopher Nolan and David Goyer. The film will be produced by Emma Thomas, Charles Roven and Christopher Nolan. Additionally, Christian Bale will resume his role as Bruce Wayne and Academy Award nominee Heath Ledger has been cast as The Joker. The announcements were made today by Jeff Robinov, President of Production, Warner Bros. Pictures.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=4601

Sweet time? I don't think so. It sounds like they had the ball rolling before BB had hardly left the theaters.

Mego, I think the difference is that Nolan finished production on The Prestige on April 2006. His next project was obviously TDK. The Prestige was a much smaller movie than Singer's Valkyrie, wich has had various delays and has been a troubled production. Singer has yet to even finish Valkyrie. WB needs him to be available to make the movie.

 

[mego joe]

Mego, I think the difference is that Nolan finished production on The Prestige on April 2006. His next project was obviously TDK. The Prestige was a much smaller movie than Singer's Valkyrie, wich has had various delays and has been a troubled production. Singer has yet to even finish Valkyrie. WB needs him to be available to make the movie.

But considering that the Harris/ Daugherty script/ treatment for a sequel was already rejected by WB, it's clear that WB were not going to greenlight just any old Superman film. It's clear they feel they got burned by SInger and Co. with SR and are requiring a lot more from him and the writers before proceeding with the green light. The situation is much different.

 

[Retroman]

June 05, 2008
Comic-Con 4-day passes sell out
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Source:
http://weblogs.variety.com/bags_and_boards/2008/06/comic-con-4-day.html

 

[Showtime]

Then WB truly are crazy for expecting huge numbers on that film. IMO, they are lucky to get what they got if they knew what they were getting.

SO you think from the very beginning they knew what they were getting?

I don't understand your logic, how couldn't they know what they were getting?

 

[I Am The Knight]

But considering that the Harris/ Daugherty script/ treatment for a sequel was already rejected by WB, it's clear that WB were not going to greenlight just any old Superman film. It's clear they feel they got burned by SInger and Co. with SR and are requiring a lot more from him and the writers before proceeding with the green light. The situation is much different.

Wich is most likely why they are not attached to MOS anymore. Your point? WB is aware of the fanboy complaints about SR. They are being more careful and will try to please everyone with the sequel. And, doesn't giving a movie the green light means that they have to start paying the producers and such? They won't green lit until it is ready, and Singer is ready, I guess.

 

[Nixon]

I don't understand your logic, how couldn't they know what they were getting?

The appeal of this logic, faulty as it might be, really isn't that hard to figure out. If you say that Warner Bros. was unaware of what Bryan Singer had planned until the movie was released it robs Singer's take on Superman of supporters and legitimacy. It says, even if only implicitly, that Bryan Singer's take on Superman is so wrongheaded that the only way it could've been given the thumbs up by Warner Bros. is if he was somehow pulling the wool over their eyes.

It also feeds a line of reasoning that says that, upset over being tricked into making a bad Superman movie, Warner Bros. will be more likely to can Bryan and start over from scratch.

 

[Showtime]

I call that convoluted logic.

 

[Nixon]

Agreed.

Good job on the "Who is writing the Superman sequel?" series on the blog btw.

 

[Showtime]

Agreed.

Good job on the "Who is writing the Superman sequel?" series on the blog btw.

Thank you. 3rd Part is now up.

FilmNerdJamie pointed me to the following on Supermanhomepage:

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php

Superhero Times conducted a recent Q&A with Mattel regarding some of their upcoming DCU action figures. Mattel indicated that they have “big plans” for their Movie Masters line that will be announced next month at San Diego Comic-Con. Currently the Movie Masters line is being used to market action figures based on the upcoming “The Dark Knight”.

When Mattel was specifically asked about action figures based on the “Superman” movies, the Mattel representative coyly responded: “We’ll have the latest news on the Movie Masters line at San Diego Comic-Con this July 23-27.”
Last summer, when I attended the Mattel panel at Wizard World Chicago 2007, the Mattel representative explained that they were well aware of the demand for action figures based on the original “Superman” movies. Stay tuned to the Superman Homepage for complete coverage of San Diego Comic-Con and for more on DC’s Movie Masters line as it may or may not relate to Superman.

 

[DIRECTOR]

what are the latest updates on the sequal guys??????????????

 

[dark_b]

the red will be more brown and more static flying shots.
ohhh and there will be a small fight with jason. singer doesnt want to show a big fight in a superman movie because a lot of kids will watch the movie.

 

[Nixon]

Thank you. 3rd Part is now up.

FilmNerdJamie pointed me to the following on Supermanhomepage:

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php

So what are we thinking? An announcement that a Man of Steel line is in the works for 2010? A detailed Chris Reeve Superman figure? Both?

 

[Showtime]

No idea, a couple of people I talked to speculated on an annoucement for both. No clue on that one though.

 

[Dark Knight]

No idea, a couple of people I talked to speculated on an annoucement for both. No clue on that one though.

Show,

In your opinion and from the scuttlebutt you have heard....do you honestly think that there will be some kind of announcement at Comic Con in July regarding MOS? Because I'm telling you man....if MOS doesn't come out by 2010....I don't think we see an SR sequel....and the next time we see a Supes solo for awhile.

 

[dark_b]

the problem is this hitler movie that singer is doing should be already finished in 2007. the movie that singer wanted to have between SR and MOS should be out in 2007.
i think there would be mroe interviews about the sequel and more news about the sequel if singer was free.

 

[GreenKToo]

Show,

In your opinion and from the scuttlebutt you have heard....do you honestly think that there will be some kind of announcement at Comic Con in July regarding MOS? Because I'm telling you man....if MOS doesn't come out by 2010....I don't think we see an SR sequel....and the next time we see a Supes solo for awhile.

I agree.
IMHO If there is no announcement from the con, then we'll most likely get a reboot in a few yrs., if even that.

 

[Showtime]

My personal opinion if there are no leaks in June and nothing after the opening weekend of Batman and going into Con, it isn't a good sign.

 

[Spiderine]

I agree.
IMHO If there is no announcement from the con, then we'll most likely get a reboot in a few yrs., if even that.

Yeah, hard to imagine a sequel beyond 2010. I would think they would want a 2010 release for a sequel.

 

[Nixon]

My personal opinion if there are no leaks in June and nothing after the opening weekend of Batman and going into Con, it isn't a good sign.

Well, we're already halfway through June and things have been very quiet . . . that's already not a good sign.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

My personal opinion if there are no leaks in June and nothing after the opening weekend of Batman and going into Con, it isn't a good sign.

Showtime, what do you think of the fact that Variety is now reporting that JLA is expected to go into production soon and there is no mention of MOS? Can we agree that is too late for WB to release MOS or JLA for 2009? So that leaves us with 2010. Wouldn't it be fair to say it would be either JLA or MOS for 2010? And with no mention of MOS in Variety one has to wonder.

Warner Bros. is working on a deal that would reteam Larry and Andy Wachowski and producer Joel Silver, but in different terms than the $180 million “Speed Racer,” which lost a fortune at the box office.

The trio will produce “Ninja Assassin,” a $50 million action pic directed by James McTeigue, but will collect a share of the gross when the film breaks even. And the studio is likely to revisit a gross deal it made a long time ago for director George Miller to direct “Justice League,” expected to go into production soon.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117987471.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Showtime, what do you think of the fact that Variety is now reporting that JLA is expected to go into production soon and there is no mention of MOS? Can we agree that is too late for WB to release MOS or JLA for 2009? So that leaves us with 2010. Wouldn't it be fair to say it would be either JLA or MOS for 2010? And with no mention of MOS in Variety one has to wonder.



http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117987471.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

Damn? Isn't there possibly an actor's strike about to happen? This movie can't catch a break.t:

 

[Nightwing1977]

My personal opinion if there are no leaks in June and nothing after the opening weekend of Batman and going into Con, it isn't a good sign.

I disagree. I think something will happend, but we won't hear news yet. I mean isn't Singer still busy with Valkyrie? That movie suppose to be out in Feb. next year. I bet once he is done with it & all the publicity to promote, he might have a talk with WB again on MoS. I wouldn't bet on SDCC not talking about MoS mean it's not happending. But of course, they know more than we do. Time will tell.

 

[superbaby]

I disagree. I think something will happend, but we won't hear news yet. I mean isn't Singer still busy with Valkyrie? That movie suppose to be out in Feb. next year. I bet once he is done with it & all the publicity to promote, he might have a talk with WB again on MoS. I wouldn't bet on SDCC not talking about MoS mean it's not happending. But of course, they know more than we do. Time will tell.

ya, singer should just take his time. besides him, there is no other director can possible make a better superman movie.