The Official 'Thor Rate & Review' thread

[kirbyfan]

Village Idiot, I disagree, Thor could of been a hardcore movie like Gladiator or Troy, those movies were excellent and they didn't have to include humor!

If a movie is very good, you're not going to lose anyone, everybody likes a good movie!

Please don't misunderstand me, I think Thor is going to be very good, I just want it to be great, and humor seems to keep these type movies from being great!

 

[Spider-Fan]

Gladiator and Troy both had humor.

 

[Village_Idiot]

Village Idiot, I disagree, Thor could of been a hardcore movie like Gladiator or Troy, those movies were excellent and they didn't have to include humor!

If a movie is very good, you're not going to lose anyone, everybody likes a good movie!

Please don't misunderstand me, I think Thor is going to be very good, I just want it to be great, and humor seems to keep these type movies from being great!

I suppose thats true , but if they take away the humor , then the movie stops being a comic book movie and starts to be a drama ,

If someone wants to make a drama about the Norse god Thor , well thats fine , but it wouldn't belong in the Marvel Comic Universe

 

[kirbyfan]

Village Idiot, I have to disagree with you again! I read Kirbys Thor for years and it wasn't filled with humor! All they have to do is make a serious hardcore action packed adventure, that's what Kirbys Thor was! They were also some of the best comics ever, just translate the comic!

Gladiator and Troy didn't have a bunch of little jokes and funny remarks, sure there were one or two , but for the most part those movies were more hardcore and serious.

I read remarks in the Thor reviews of parts of the movie being actually funny, funny in a action movie about the Mighty Thor?

I'd just like filmmakers to treat this material more seriously, Nolans Batman comes closest to what I like. The problem with his Batman is that he ignores the comic book elements.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Gladiator and Troy didn't have a bunch of little jokes and funny remarks, sure there were one or two , but for the most part those movies were more hardcore and serious.

I read remarks in the Thor reviews of parts of the movie being actually funny, funny in a action movie about the Mighty Thor?

I'd just like filmmakers to treat this material more seriously, Nolans Batman comes closest to what I like. The problem with his Batman is that he ignores the comic book elements.

Thor is a fish out of water. Why is comedy bad? It makes sense. Culture shock is funny. I don't see the big issue here.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

There is no issue. I'm sick of people criticizing comedic elements in comic films. It's the only genre that gets this crap.

 

[Village_Idiot]

I probably should back up a bit by say , even though I do like some humor in comic book movies , now that doesn't mean I want them to become silly , FF2 for example was just stupid

But it is a fine line , some do it well , some not so much , to much humor isn't a good thing either

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Village Idiot, I have to disagree with you again! I read Kirbys Thor for years and it wasn't filled with humor! All they have to do is make a serious hardcore action packed adventure, that's what Kirbys Thor was! They were also some of the best comics ever, just translate the comic!

Gladiator and Troy didn't have a bunch of little jokes and funny remarks, sure there were one or two , but for the most part those movies were more hardcore and serious.

I read remarks in the Thor reviews of parts of the movie being actually funny, funny in a action movie about the Mighty Thor?

I'd just like filmmakers to treat this material more seriously, Nolans Batman comes closest to what I like. The problem with his Batman is that he ignores the comic book elements.

Have you even read Thor comics? Kirby's Thor was had moments like this:

Whether you like it or not, comedy was in the source material too.So stop with the high-brow comments about comedy being disrespectful for the source material, especially when the early reviews have proven otherwise.

And another thing. It's not Kirby's Thor. It's more Stan Lee and Larry Lieber who created Thor than Jack Kirby.

 

[Village_Idiot]

As an example of a good blend would be the last Star Trek movie , I thought that movie was excellent , serious enough but with the right amount of humor

numb tongue !!! , you got numb tongue...................lol

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I probably should back up a bit by say , even though I do like some humor in comic book movies , now that doesn't mean I want them to become silly , FF2 for example was just stupid

But it is a fine line , some do it well , some not so much , to much humor isn't a good thing either

That's because the characters themselves were jokes, making that actual comedy less funny and more annoying. That's an example of not having much respect for the material.

 

[kirbyfan]

Parker Wayne, maybe that's because comic films are the genre where comedic elements don't belong!

Unless you're doing Archie, the Smurfs or something like that.

Parker Wayne, that comic example you used is not done by Jack Kirby, and Kirby put Thor on the map!

Star Trek is not a comic movie!

Also I'm not saying that humor disrespects comic films, I just think they'd be much better without it.

Once again I think Thor is going to be a very good movie!

 

[Vartha]

Village Idiot, I have to disagree with you again! I read Kirbys Thor for years and it wasn't filled with humor! All they have to do is make a serious hardcore action packed adventure, that's what Kirbys Thor was! They were also some of the best comics ever, just translate the comic!

Gladiator and Troy didn't have a bunch of little jokes and funny remarks, sure there were one or two , but for the most part those movies were more hardcore and serious.

I read remarks in the Thor reviews of parts of the movie being actually funny, funny in a action movie about the Mighty Thor?

I'd just like filmmakers to treat this material more seriously, Nolans Batman comes closest to what I like. The problem with his Batman is that he ignores the comic book elements.

Yes but other parts of the film are romantic and other parts full of action.
What's wrong with humor?
This isn't Gladiator or Troy, even the first draft was similar. This is a superhero movie, not a historical movie.

YES, there was a time when the FIRST Script was compared to being a cross between 300 and LotR, but not this script.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Parker Wayne, maybe that's because comic films are the genre where comedic elements don't belong!

Unless you're doing Archie, the Smurfs or something like that.

You say this after you said they're not being too close to the source material, and after saying the comics have no comedy? You're contradicting yourself.

And you don't need to use exclamation marks.

And humor to deviate from the tone and is never a bad thing. Even the TDK had some comedic elements and comedic lines in it like some of the Jokers antics along with the some of the back-and-forth between Bruce and Lucius/Alfred.

 

[Figs]

These films are supposed to be fun so I don't mind having humour sprinkled here and there. I can't wait to see how the

Spoiler

petshop scene

plays out.

 

[Vartha]

hahaha Figs you sick puppy

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Geez, I'd hate it if superhero films were ultra-grimdark all the time.

 

[Figs]

hahaha Figs you sick puppy

t:

That was one of the few scenes I read about when people were talking about the script.

 

[kirbyfan]

To each his own.

I use exclamation marks because that is the appropriate punctuation when you have passion about what you are saying. I am a professional cartoonist and this material is very dear to me, it inspired my livelyhood!

I should have clarified myself more, my comments are in relation to superhero movies, not just comic movies, I prefer them taken seriously!

Serious doesn't always mean dark, just leave out the humor.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Why does this movie have to be "HARDCORE SUPER F***ING SERIOUS?" it's based on a comic book that was originally aimed for kids. It's not Watchmen or something, & as Parker Wayne comedic elements HAVE been apart of the Thor comics.

As long as it's not like the Rami Spidey movies, where he had humor in tense moments (& not even from the character who's supposed to be funny), I'm fine with some humor in the movie.

 

[kirbyfan]

Who says thor was originally aimned at kids?

Kirbys Thor was widely read by college students and grown up alike in the 60s!

Also as I posted, some of the movies criticizm seems to be about the comedic moments, with reviewers using terms like cheesy.

So maybe if the filmmakers take the material more seriously, those watching will too!

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Thor was meant for a widespread audience. The main audience were kids and teens (which is why Stan Lee created Spider-man) in the 60s. Stan Lee wanted Marvel to aim for kids and teens.

 

[Vartha]

Beside the Warriors III are supposed to be humorous, like the Three Musketeers there humor in most viking films in one way or another.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

So maybe if the filmmakers take the material more seriously, those watching will too!

So comedy = source material not being taken seriously?

So you're just gonna ignore the asgard scenes, Rainbow Bridge, Bitfrost, Asgard costumes, Don Blake, Hammer powers (with him being able to fly), the characters being like they are the comics, because of a few comedic scenes?

 

[Flemm]

Well, I think mixing in some comedy is good, but if kirbyfan would rather see a Thor flick that is more serious all the time, that's cool. No need for us all to agree on every detail.

 

[mcvayd]

Thank you, sir.



Either I overlooked it or you were a victim of copy/paste gone horribly awry. It's there now.

You are a legend my man, thank you so much.

David