Dark of the Moon The Official Transformers 3 News And Speculation Thread

[BlackLantern]

people just want it to look exactly like the G1 cartoon because apparently (I missed this bit) that's the only version of Transformers ever and the only one that counts

 

[Dr Lee]

Interesting stuff seen on TF3 set in Indiana...

Ironhide
intact ICT
Spilt ICT
unfinished body kit for the front half of the ICT

and the most interesting item..

Spoiler

What looks to me to be a return capsule from an apollo space rocket...

 

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

people just want it to look exactly like the G1 cartoon because apparently (I missed this bit) that's the only version of Transformers ever and the only one that counts

I must have missed that bit too as both "Animated" and "Beast Wars" are excellent shows

 

[Avangarde]

people just want it to look exactly like the G1 cartoon because apparently (I missed this bit) that's the only version of Transformers ever and the only one that counts

Actually just for reference sake, back when TF1 was in production Michael Bay said that they were basing the movie on the Generation 1 Transformers. It was this statement that screwed him over, all he had to say was "this is a new version of Transformers", it would have saved so much confusion and probably eased things with the fanboys.

 

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

^well that would be it then

you don't claim your movie is based off something specific when it's clearly not

 

[Ipodman]

I actually enjoyed Michael Bay's version of the Transformers... but if it was more G1 orientated it would have been better

 

[BlackLantern]

and if wishes were horses, we'd all be knee deep in ****

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

^well that would be it then

you don't claim your movie is based off something specific when it's clearly not

People would expect G1 no matter what. G1 is the series that reasonated the most with the general public and became a pop culture icon.

No one would no who Optimus Prime, Megatron or Starscream were if it wasn't for G1. If Bay wanted to start with a clean slate he shouldn't have used G1 characters and instead saved them for another adaptation.

But that would defeat the purpose of naming the movie "Transformers".

 

[Ipodman]

I wanna see the decepticons flying together in the new movie...

No matter what version of the cartoon you like the most... I've always remembered the decepticons flying together.

In the movies, there are cool shots of the aubots racing down the highway and stuff, but there doesnt seem to be any shots of the decepticons moving in a group are there?

 

[BlackLantern]

because they are malcontents....they really don't like each other, they just all hate the Autobots

 

[Ipodman]

Yea... so thats one thing I hope to be improved on in the next movie...

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

because they are malcontents....they really don't like each other, they just all hate the Autobots

When was this established?

The decepticons are like any army or tribe. They work together for a common cause. But they have preferences who they like to work with. Only Shockwave likes to work alone, most others like to work with similar class of warriors. Like Insecticons work with Insecticons, Constructicons like to work with Constructicons. The same way Marines like to work with Marines or Army rangers like to work with other Army rangers.

and every set of warriors have their own motivations for fighting for the deceptiocon side. The insecticons fight purely for energon, constructicons fight mainly out of loyalty to megatron. But they do fight in groups.

 

[BlackLantern]

It's just what I figured...you don't see them hanging out, they just find the Autobots and attack

 

[SpiderByte]

Megatron and Starscream sure as hell don't like each other. I'm pretty sure that the only reason Megatron keeps him is for number strength.

Oh, and Black Lantern, you have exactly 50000 posts now. Nice.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

It would be nice to see Megatron and Shockwave use different methods to get factions to follow them.

Sometimes fear, sometimes greed and sometimes power.

Characters having special motivations can only add to the story. After all, Transformers aren't just robots, they have individual feelings, hopes, and fears. But you wouldn't know that watching the Bay movies.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Megatron and Starscream sure as hell don't like each other. I'm pretty sure that the only reason Megatron keeps him is for number strength.

and we know that simply because of one throw away line with Megatron telling Starscream he's disappointed.

weak.

 

[chaseter]

No, we know from the years of source material where Starscream always wants to take over and kill Megatron and Megatron keeping him constantly in his sight because he knows that fact.

From the movies, Megatron is disappointed in Starscream in the first one and constantly berates him. Same with the second movie. Megatron does not like Starscream and Starscream hates but fears Megatron.

 

[Mr. Earle]

In the comics i think that Megatron is keeping him around because he is a smart and deadly decepticon. In the movies he seems to be keeping him around because even if he decided to rebel, he's a worthless fighter. I mean the dude can barely walk the way he is shaped. Primed owned him in the forest!

 

[Avangarde]

Friends were far and few between in the Decepticon camp, they constantly bickered between each other but when it came to fighting Autobots they kind of had a comrade thing going.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Friends were far and few between in the Decepticon camp, they constantly bickered between each other but when it came to fighting Autobots they kind of had a comrade thing going.

Eh, I disagree. There was much more insurrection in the Decepticons, but Skywarp and Thundercracker were clearly depicted as friends, as were the Triplechangers, as were the Constructicons. Even Megatron had a very close friendship with Soundwave. Starscream was really the only outsider amongst the core group (not counting Insecticons), and since he got a disproportionate amount of facetime he made things seem a lot less cohesive than they were. There are plenty of examples of Decepticons palling around, most noteably in "Microbots" the Decepticons all got drunk together.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

No, we know from the years of source material where Starscream always wants to take over and kill Megatron and Megatron keeping him constantly in his sight because he knows that fact.

I was referring to the Bay's depiction of decepticons.

From the movies, Megatron is disappointed in Starscream in the first one and constantly berates him. Same with the second movie. Megatron does not like Starscream and Starscream hates but fears Megatron.

Megatron doesn't constantly berate Starscream in either movie. What dialogue are you referring to other than the "disappointed" line?

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think these films make the Decepticons not threatening. Pretty much, the autobots own them. How can I feel like the autobots are in danger if the threat is not sufficient? Megatron in TF1 was awesome and owned Prime. He was the only one that felt like a threat (well...Starscream too since Starscream pretty much did nothing but own jets and bomb the hell out of the autobots.). But, RotF, the decepticons were worthless. Prime constantly was beating multiple ones at a time, even with Megatron being IN the group...where as in TF1, Megatron was clearly stronger. Not to mention Super Prime thrashes both the Fallen and Megatron with ease. Again, where is the threat? It just seems like the Autobots overall are the better fighting race, when the Decepticons are SUPPOSED to be. These films get a core concept wrong. The Decepticons feel like the ones fighting an uphill battle, not the Autobots. That has to change.

 

[SpiderByte]

and we know that simply because of one throw away line with Megatron telling Starscream he's disappointed.

weak.

http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/9186/tf2_megatron_starscream.jpg

I'm more than certain he does not like him.

 

[Chris B]

I really hope they show Starscream's sarcastic side this time around. I mean looking back to ROTF or TF1, it would've been just like him to make some sort of crack to Megatron about getting killed by a human kid or crashlanding on a planet and getting experimented on by it inhabitants.

 

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

I really hope they show Starscream's sarcastic side this time around. I mean looking back to ROTF or TF1, it would've been just like him to make some sort of crack to Megatron about getting killed by a human kid or crashlanding on a planet and getting experimented on by it inhabitants.

agreed

I don't think Bay really captured Starscream's personality yet

he definitley needs to do this in the third and give SS a bigger role as well.