The Dark Knight Rises The Official "What Do YOU Want in the Sequel?" Thread

[The Joker]

Just had a thought on this... it may be a stupid idea, but I think this is the only way that I could accept another actor playing the Joker...

What if the Joker is in this movie... but it's a different Joker?

What I mean is, what if the Joker from TDK is locked up in Arkham but someone else is going around terrorizing people, using his name? This new Joker could be similar in appearance, but this would give the new actor more leeway to take the character in his own direction rather than simply doing a Ledger impression.

Perhaps the new Joker's past could be tied to the original, and Batman visits the original Joker in Arkham to gain some insight. They might be able to pull of that scene by only showing the original Joker in the shadows and using Heath's voice. And then, perhaps at the end, after Batman catches the new Joker, the original escapes in a Silence of the Lambs kind of way and the movie ends with him at large.

Perhaps it's a dumb idea. But some people seem to think that the Joker HAS to be in this movie, so I thought this might be an interesting way of bringing the character back. After all, the Joker has never had a definite origin (even in the film) so it might work.

No offense, man, but that's a horrible idea. A copycat Joker? No, that would be awful. Having some upright citizens trying to be Batman for a brief scene is one thing, but not a Joker impostor for the whole movie.

If the script absolutely requires the Joker, then just recast the role. Otherwise, leave him out of it. I'm not a believer of including a character just for the sake of seeing them.

 

[That-Guy]

You're probably right, I was just toying with the idea. I think they should leave the Joker out of it, but you never know what might be going on in everyone’s mind.

 

[Doctor Jones]

It's Nolan's perogative whether or not he should return. I see possibilities that he can come back, but it's really Nolan's decision. I doubt he will do it, but you never know. Joker could definitely play another part in the tale, but if he isn't, that's fine. After the third film, we can only imagine the thought of Batman going against the Joker in Nolan's world again and again.

 

[Schlosser85]

- The Joker back, but in a smaller role, in Arkham Asylum

- Selena Kyle/Catwoman, with a love-hate relationship developing between both Bruce and Selena and Batman and Catwoman. The Long Halloween is the kind of Catwoman I want.

- mention of Bruce’s parents

- Wayne Manor and the Batcave

 

[Schlosser85]

- The Joker back, but in a smaller role, in Arkham Asylum

- Selena Kyle/Catwoman, with a love-hate relationship developing between both Bruce and Selena and Batman and Catwoman. The Long Halloween is the kind of Catwoman I want.

- mention of Bruce’s parents

- Wayne Manor and the Batcave

 

[Abraham]

DEADSHOT

 

[Mister H.]

^ Hell yes to the Batman shooting range poster. That is real nice.

 

[That-Guy]

That's pretty awesome. I don't think that we'll get Deadshot though. If we do, I think he'll probably just be a minor character (i.e., the main villain's right-hand man would be named Floyd Lawton, etc.).

 

[Dark Knight]

DEADSHOT

I like that shooting range poster.

You should try to change the bullet marks into the shape of the Bat symbol though!

 

[Travesty]

I like that shooting range poster.

You should try to change the bullet marks into the shape of the Bat symbol though!

Look at the bottom of the poster.

 

[That-Guy]

lol, it looks like Deadshot is taking extra care to shoot Batman in one particularly sensitive area. I hope that kevlar provides really good protection... ouch...

 

[CWP]

There's a handful of things I'd like to see in the next film, but one that I've settled on is Harley Quinn. She could be played by Zooey Deschanel or Helena Bonham Carter and there are a few openings in the story for her to fit into. It could be revealed that
A. She was in cahoots with the Joker since The Dark Knight and was another one of his backup plans to escape prison,
B. She obsessed over the Joker's cunning when he was at large and breaks him out on her own,
or C. She is another criminal in prison with the Joker and becomes a fan of his there—enough to help him escape.

Alternatively, the Joker will not be replaced with a new actor. Consequently, he would only get mentioned in the next film. Take the first part of point B and have Harley Quinn follow in the Joker's footsteps as a villain without breaking him out of prison. That doesn't mean she has to be alone, however. She would get one of those ol' Batman villains to join her. Most of the Batman films didn't have only one villain, anyway. So it seems logical. Dare I say it...maybe Poison Ivy?

 

[ALittlePush]

There's a handful of things I'd like to see in the next film, but one that I've settled on is Harley Quinn. She could be played by Zooey Deschanel or Helena Bonham Carter and there are a few openings in the story for her to fit into. It could be revealed that
A. She was in cahoots with the Joker since The Dark Knight and was another one of his backup plans to escape prison,
B. She obsessed over the Joker's cunning when he was at large and breaks him out on her own,
or C. She is another criminal in prison with the Joker and becomes a fan of his there—enough to help him escape.

Alternatively, the Joker will not be replaced with a new actor. Consequently, he would only get mentioned in the next film. Take the first part of point B and have Harley Quinn follow in the Joker's footsteps as a villain without breaking him out of prison. That doesn't mean she has to be alone, however. She would get one of those ol' Batman villains to join her. Most of the Batman films didn't have only one villain, anyway. So it seems logical. Dare I say it...maybe Poison Ivy?

I like option C. I would very much like Harley to appear in Batman 3 and played by Kristen Bell.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Deadshot was facing the death sentence in Gotham Knight, so I doubt we'll see him. Cool poster though.

 

[DarKJediKnight]

It still doesn't make sense. He got a fingerprint from a computer scan from the brick he took out, and then it was reconstructed digitally. Do you guys not see the flaw here? You can't get a fingerprint unless you actually get the physical print first. The digital reconstruction was a scan, not an actual physical print. Hell, even a digital reconstruction like that, would have a hard time finding indentations on the actual bullet, let alone a friggin fingerprint.

And I still don't know what the point of shooting off 5-6 bullets in the bunker was about? He did it, just to find the same kind of bullet for comparison? Who cares, he has the scanning technology, what was the point of firing off the guns, other then to make everyone jump in the theater, cause it was loud as hell?

And then after that, the whole part of the Melvin White thing was SOOO ridiculous. So The Joker found someone who owned an apartment, before there was a funeral, and was lucky enough that the person he found, lived right above the funeral, that was randomly selected in the middle of the street, and then told him to load a magazine, so he could randomly shoot it into the wall, just so he could give off clues to the next assassination attempt, that was then given another clue about Rachel Dawes? Does this make sense to ANYBODY? I hear people complain about the microwave emitter in BB, but The Joker would have to be friggin psychic for that plan to work out! But I guess The Joker is psychic, because he also attended the funeral, knowing that every cop who has a gun in their hand, would run away when they hear a shot being fired, even though they were all just firing shots! And who sets a funeral in downtown, that is SURROUNDED by buildings, where people will be firing shots, and also knowing that the friggin Mayor has an assassination attempt on his head!?!?

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I kinda have to agree with you. Now, let me just say, there was "detective work" being done, regardless of how stupid it was, but most of the work wasn't from Batman, but by Bruce Wayne. I know, they're the same person, but that's why I liked the detective work in BB more, because we saw Batman doing most of the work.

I could try giving an answers to these, but IMO it seems that you're the type of person have already decided on hating the film no matter how right the arguments are, so why bother. Also, I look at films in a bigger scope; I couldn't be bothered with minor details, on whether the character's costume is true to the comic books, etc., etc., etc. If a film was able to tell a compelling, powerful and emotional story, like TDK here, then the film is very fine by me.

 

[Travesty]

I could try giving an answers to these, but IMO it seems that you're the type of person have already decided on hating the film no matter how right the arguments are, so why bother. Also, I look at films in a bigger scope; I couldn't be bothered with minor details, on whether the character's costume is true to the comic books, etc., etc., etc. If a film was able to tell a compelling, powerful and emotional story, like TDK here, then the film is very fine by me.

Of course those are nitpicks. I saw the movie, didn't like it, and the more I saw it, the more the other little nitpicky things stood out, as well. And you're right, I'm not the kind of person sitting on the fence over my opinion of the movie. It is made up, and I don't like it. But if you want to debate with me on the things you say you can counter, I'm more then happy to do so.

 

[Dark Knight]

Look at the bottom of the poster.

I meant have the bullets form the bat symbol in the middle of the poster....not on the bottom

 

[Dark Knight]

One thing I do NOT want in this B3 film is a cliched type of superhero film ending.

I want something different and unique....yet surprising and definitely not predictable.

 

[DonnyLebeau]

In regards to Raas not being saved by Bats and Joker being spared, don't forget that Bruce DID save Raas in the beginning of the film. Only for it to come back and bite him BIG time as Raas nearly killed him in his house and destroyed Gotham. I'm pretty sure Bruce took that into consideration when deciding NOT to save him.

The Joker being saved was to imprison him for GOOD and build on Batman's rep as a hero who doesn't kill. There were cops and media all over the place, so it would have been leaked immediately had he let Joker die.

 

[Gianakin_]

You could also see it as Bruce maturing between BB and TDK. I was expecting a scene in DK where he'd have the chance to kill a baddie, but wouldn't go through with it.

 

[ALittlePush]

You could also see it as Bruce maturing between BB and TDK. I was expecting a scene in DK where he'd have the chance to kill a baddie, but wouldn't go through with it.

He did have a scene. He could have let the Joker splat on the ground below but he saved him.

 

[Gianakin_]

He did have a scene. He could have let the Joker splat on the ground below but he saved him.

Yup. I didn't express myself properly: I expected a scene like that and, indeed, we got it.

 

[ALittlePush]

Yup. I didn't express myself properly: I expected a scene like that and, indeed, we got it.

My apologies.

 

[Gianakin_]

No problemo.

 

[Naite22]

Kick-ass fanmade poster there! Could EASILY be an authentic teaser poster, if I didn't know better. Just as good as the teaser poster for dark knight, with the bat symbol on the wall and bloody red eyes. And it makes a pretty strong point. Gotham is out to kill Batman!

One thing though - it needs to read "2012"