Iron Man 2 The Official Whiplash Thread

[Mr. Earle]

Yeah, but they're combining elements of both Crimson Dynamo and Whiplash together for this film.

Spoiler

Yeah, there's supposedy a robot drone army scene in the film, the drones are based off of IM's armor design. The drones get out of control at a public event and IM has to intervene and stop them. Hammer is the one that takes control of the drones. It was reported that an extra got hurt during filming of this scene, RDJ had to rush on the set and save this guy b/c he got hit by one of the drones and the guy's hip was broken. Don't know if any of this is true though.

WOW! Thanks! Seems to me that this combination of Whip and Crimson will be good as long as the use the best parts of the characters.

On the other hand, I am getting sick of everybody and everything being based on IM's technology. Even if something is based on it, could it at least look different? After Ironmonger who was a big Ironman, i hope that Whiplash and the drones will look different. Just because they stole Tony's reactor, it doesnt mean they need to display it on their chest or have the same face plate! Goddamn!

 

[redlion2]

WOW! Thanks! Seems to me that this combination of Whip and Crimson will be good as long as the use the best parts of the characters.

On the other hand, I am getting sick of everybody and everything being based on IM's technology. Even if something is based on it, could it at least look different? After Ironmonger who was a big Ironman, i hope that Whiplash and the drones will look different. Just because they stole Tony's reactor, it doesnt mean they need to display it on their chest or have the same face plate! Goddamn!

Mr. Earle, the first part of the post is true concerning Whiplash/CD.

The quote in spoiler tags is just rumor at this time until it's been confirmed or debunked.

 

[Mr. Earle]

I am glad the character combination is true. That way Favs has more freedom to move with his character and adapt the best parts of each one.

In any case, i hope in the third we see a superpowered villain (so that he wont be needing any armour) so that the franchise wont become repetitive with the use of armoured dudes. The Mandarin would be a good idea, or maybe that dude from Extremis (who was a hateful punk with no character, but anyway). If the IM franchise is going to merge with the rest of the marvel movies, including the one about a Norse God, then i cant see why superpowered villains cant exist.

 

[protocida]

I believe the Combat Drones are true. It's a perfect way to make Hammer a threat to Stark and display Iron Man's and War Machine's badassery.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

Can someone suggest a good Rourke movie, pre-Wrestler.

 

[protocida]

His movie with Robert DeNiro. I don't remember the name. DeNiro plays a guy called Louis Chyper.

 

[mrsparkle]

Can someone suggest a good Rourke movie, pre-Wrestler.

Sin City.

 

[kedrell]

His movie with Robert DeNiro. I don't remember the name. DeNiro plays a guy called Louis Chyper.

I'm not sure but I think that's Angelheart.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Yeah, thats Angel Heart.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

****! He's Marv?!

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

this reminds me how in terminator salvation the robot is just throwing Bale around.
how do you awoid this? you writte the script different.
it has ntohing todo with PG13 or R. in the first 3 movies the only reason why Connor(mother and son) survived was because the terminator did never come close. he was runnng after them but he was never close. because if he was close he would tear them apart like an animal.

they desgned the suit of whiplash and they made IM very powerfull in the first movie. it is how it is. of course we have to see it in context. but we are talking ''what if'' here. and i disagree with people that the fight can work.
Dock Ocks tentacles wee AI. they could think for him. they could move faster then him . whips are controled by Rourke. and hes brain is not fast enough to dodge IM weapons.

Exactly, Iron Man can fly and is quite quick in the suit so electrified whips just arent going to cut it, especially with suit for protection.

I guess I'm one of those guys in the "they're not gonna have IM finish him right away" camp. There's a good reason for this response because none of us, emphasis on NONE, knows how the fight is going to play out. Those of us that think the fight shouldn't last long or those of us that think it will be longer. We don't know a thing for sure until the film comes out. I have faith that Favs is intelligent enough to understand Whippy's advantages and disadvantages vs. IM. I also have faith that Favs realizes the problems with the final battle between Iron Monger vs. IM in the last film and will try to do better this time.

Sorry you're not getting the answer you want to hear but who can honestly give you that answer? Anything else would be just speculation.

I'm not saying I know how the fights going to turn out, but if see the fight and its obvious IM could have finished him off quickly but he doesnt, i for one am going to be very dissapointed.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

He can't finish him off that easily, Rourke wouldn't have signed on if he didn't have a lot of screen time.

 

[mrsparkle]

****! He's Marv?!

Yep. Look at the eyes, man.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I don't know that's necessarily truth ARocks.... one could have said the same thing about Thomas Haden Church; and he was a current Oscar winner at the time.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

Meh, I was joking.

He's Mickey Rourke for ****'s sakes! He's the first man to make me weep like a baby.

(Wrestler).

 

[Figs]

I have to agree with dark_b and some others who have worries over Whiplash and his costume. Iron man could finish him within seconds, his chest beam alone would put a hole straight through this guy and the fight would be over.

Oh, and people saying "Well its not like they are going to have Iron Man just finish him right away." Sorry, but this is NOT what I want to hear, as I for one wouldnt be happy with him having oppurtunities to finish the fight quickly but he doesnt 'because its a movie.' That **** just wouldnt fly with me or the general audience.

They need to think of a good reason why Iron Man wouldnt repulsor beam his ass straight away, and I personally dont want it to be because Iron Man is de-powered again due to whatever.

First off you wouldn't know what the hell everyone in the general audience would be thinking or how they would react so you can only talk about yourself in that statement.

Second you might as well just not see the movie since you can't have some suspension of disbelief which you need for ALL comic films. Not just in Iron Man comics but many other ones have there been villians that the hero could beat the **** out of right away but somehow gets the upper hand in a fight. Sorry but to let that pass in a comic then ***** and roll your eyes because it's being done in a comic film is just BS.

I understand if you wanted him in some uber machine throwing Tony around like a rag doll but if you don't have the imagination to come up with some ideas on how Whiplash could take on Iron Man I'm glad you don't write films/books. You could come up with numerous scenarios for Whiplash to even the odds, you and the other complainers are simply regurgitating the same crap that he isn't in a full armored suit.

So far we haven't seen any back shots of Rourke not to mention I'm sure he'll be in fight scenes other than the racetrak. He might just end up having that jet pack looking thing in the concept art.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

First off you wouldn't know what the hell everyone in the general audience would be thinking or how they would react so you can only talk about yourself in that statement.

I completely agree. He's a comic book reader and would expect more, as would all comic book readers but, Fav's isn't making this JUST for the readers, he's making it for everyone and, not everyone cares he he can whoop ass in record timing or not.

 

[craigdbfan]

I think its still way to early to judge Rourkes outfit seen at the race track simply being we don't know the context of that particular scene.

For all we know Tony doesn't even have the suit when he first encounters Whiplash and its only after that meeting where both of them are fully geared up and give us a bombastic fight.

I'm sure Favreau knows what he is doing. However it plays out I trust that it will be entertaining.

 

[Venom'sDad]

^ I agree.... we know that along the way Rourke's characters develops more and more, better technology, to the point that he eventually becomes CD. Fight and Learn.

 

[Chris B]

In any case, i hope in the third we see a superpowered villain (so that he wont be needing any armour) so that the franchise wont become repetitive with the use of armoured dudes. The Mandarin would be a good idea, or maybe that dude from Extremis (who was a hateful punk with no character, but anyway). If the IM franchise is going to merge with the rest of the marvel movies, including the one about a Norse God, then i cant see why superpowered villains cant exist.

Well, Favreau has more-or-less confirmed that the plan is for the Mandarin to pop up in Iron Man 3 at least.

 

[Brian Braddock]

I think its still way to early to judge Rourkes outfit seen at the race track simply being we don't know the context of that particular scene.

For all we know Tony doesn't even have the suit when he first encounters Whiplash and its only after that meeting where both of them are fully geared up and give us a bombastic fight.

I'm sure Favreau knows what he is doing. However it plays out I trust that it will be entertaining.

Well said; that's my guess too.

 

[redlion2]

Exactly, Iron Man can fly and is quite quick in the suit so electrified whips just arent going to cut it, especially with suit for protection.



I'm not saying I know how the fights going to turn out, but if see the fight and its obvious IM could have finished him off quickly but he doesnt, i for one am going to be very dissapointed.

First off AVEIT, we don't know what those whips can do, they don't have to only be capable of electricity. They could be energized to have laser properties for all we know. You're already making assumptions that have no basis. The only description we've been given about the whips' nature are "they're devastating whip-like beams"

You could practically say that about almost every comic book story ever written. For example, on the surface, there's no way Joker should give Batman any problems yet he's Batman's greatest arch nemesis (or at least one of). It's all in the writing, the execution and suspension of belief. If you're not willing to give IM the same, then what's the point of even bothering to go see it? I'm just saying..........

 

[Brian Braddock]

Yeah, good writing should be able to come up with a myriad of plausible explanations as to why he gets his ass handed to him.

I'm still going with the theory that Tony doesnt have the suit - hell, whats to say that BW doesnt defeat a semi-suited Whiplash?

My point is that we dont know squat at this juncture.

 

[redlion2]

My point is that we dont know squat at this juncture.

Exactly.

 

[DocHoliday]

Yeah, good writing should be able to come up with a myriad of plausible explanations as to why he gets his ass handed to him.

I'm still going with the theory that Tony doesnt have the suit - hell, whats to say that BW doesnt defeat a semi-suited Whiplash?

My point is that we dont know squat at this juncture.

Right on. I think that's a fair analysis. We really don'teven know if black Widow turns out to be SHIELD or an enemy. All we know is that she is Tony's new assistant and she's in her suit at some point. For all we know she is working for Hammer to commit industrial espionage.