Iron Man 2 The Official Whiplash Thread

[Congo Jack]

Who gives a f**k if they change the age of a character, if all turns out well?

Yeah, I'm no big fan of altering characters but here it's warranted. An older Hammer might be too similar to the Stane/Stark dynamic from IRON MAN.

It might be stretching the coincidences but there could be a Justin Hammer Sr. in the flash-back sequences with Tony's father. And Marvel could always add a Rockwell-esque Justin Hammer to the comics at the time of the 2nd movie.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

I'd make 250 movies if they paid me $250,000

Yeah but people also don't realize that amount gets broken down. Its not like Mickey is getting the whole $250,000 to spend. Taxes, pays his agent, maybe publicist, and whos knows what else it can get technical. So in reality he is probably working for $100,000 something and working on something in a month or two span.

 

[Ironfan72]

I assume Marvel was just starting with $250K as a starting point in negotiations, like has been said, Mickey Rourke hasn't done much to be remembered for until late, and even then the Wrestler was a low budget, indi film, so Marvel maybe low balling, but they have to at least try and see what he and his agent say.
If he turns it down, then Marvel can either continue to negotiate or move on and find another actor for the part, they have already locked Rockwell in and Emily Blunt may or may not be in negotiations for Blackwidow, so Marvel has alot of irons in the fire right now, and who knows if they and Sam Jackson are still talking.

 

[Juggernaut33]

i think this is in NOOOOOO way true.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0746125/bio

That's according to his imdb page and they know their *****, when it comes to an actor bio, they mostly get informations from managers.

Routh's salary actually doesn't surprise me. Keep in mind that he signed a three picture deal (Returns + two sequels).

 

[OsGom]

I think the low price tag may speak to how much face time Rourke get's out of the Crimson Dynamo suit. If he is basically voice acting I think 250k is a fitting paycheck.

Again I have to say I like the Marvel strategy. I like to see the big name stars playing these charcters but the characters are more important than the draw factor of star power.

If Marvel can put together a quality adaptation hiring good actors while playing hardball at the negotiating table, then more power to them. There are plenty of good indie actors out there that will jump at 250k for a supporting roll. Marvel is rightly investing in the right story, a good director and kick ass effects.

 

[DarkSuperman]

Yeah but people also don't realize that amount gets broken down. Its not like Mickey is getting the whole $250,000 to spend. Taxes, pays his agent, maybe publicist, and whos knows what else it can get technical. So in reality he is probably working for $100,000 something and working on something in a month or two span.

you know, I forgot to factor in all that stuff. Not to mention he's gotta give his agent like 10%. Man, Marvel is really getting cheap. Iron Man made them like half a billion dollars...the least they could do is pay their villain a million. That's like nothing to them.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

you know, I forgot to factor in all that stuff. Not to mention he's gotta give his agent like 10%. Man, Marvel is really getting cheap. Iron Man made them like half a billion dollars...the least they could do is pay their villain a million. That's like nothing to them.

I think what they are offering to pay is reasonable. I mean like I said I like Rourke and hope he gets as much as he can but...i already stated all the reasons in my previous post.

 

[SuperT]

You don't offer an actor that just won a Golden Globe $250K to appear in your movie. Was someone at Marvel dropped on their head as a child?!?

No wonder Samuel L. Jackson isn't coming back, they're jipping them out of money. $250K?!?! WTF.....

 

[FlawlessVictory]

I can only imagine what Emily Blunt is being offered. She may have to pay them to be in the movie.

 

[Figs]

I'm backing Marvel on this one.

Everyone needs to remember, the comic industry isn't and hasn't been doing phenomenal the past couple of decades. Yeah, it's staying afloat but this is Marvel's first time as a movie studio/producers.

They don't have nearly as much $$$ as these other famous studios that have been around for ages.

I think they're playing it smart for now. Screw Samuel L Jackson, his role most likely wouldn't have even been that big due to the fact that this movie should still be focusing on the title character IRON MAN.

Although it's great to see Rourke making a comeback, he said so himself he did the Wrestler for free pretty much. When you start back at the bottom you need to work your way back to the top. Just because he gets nominated for 1 movie doesn't mean he's going to jump up to the 10-25+ million dollar range for his films.

For someone who has been down and out for 15 years and did his last film for peanuts(I think he did say he didn't get paid at all) he should be happy he's getting a couple hundred thousand.

Can Marvel pay them more? Of course, but I prefer they play things safe and hopefully start making huge amounts of money on their future films to help secure them as a major studio.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Well said;

And, unless I've missed something, we dont even know the extent of his role yet.

 

[Movies205]

I think this should be stated every time one of these threads get started, what do you all actually know about the entertainment business? I mean you'd be really surprised how much actors are paid for various parts, etc.

 

[Figs]

I think this should be stated every time one of these threads get started, what do you all actually know about the entertainment business? I mean you'd be really surprised how much actors are paid for various parts, etc.

Are you meaning that most of the time actors get paid a whole lot more for incredibly small parts/cameos?

 

[Brian Braddock]

Or a lot less than what people might think.

That's what I would suggest, anyways.

 

[Chewy]

It's not like they are paying him $250K, that was the starting offer. They're called "negotiations" for a reason. They offer him something, he (or, more accurately, his agents) ask for something more, and a middle ground is eventually reached.

 

[SuperT]

But, $250K?! And to appear in Iron Man 2, after the money-making juggernaut that was the first movie, you pitch a starting offer of $250K!?!

Any established actor would laugh at that. I agree with who said it earlier, if I were Emily Blunt and I read this, I'd be a little scared right about now.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Rourke's performance in 'The Wrestler' is one of the best ive ever seen but it is not a blockbuster and he is a 52 year old actor with a very bad rep from the past, so i expected they wouldn't be paying him a colossal amount as IM2 is as valuable to him exposure-wise as his possible Oscar win will be to them on a credibility scale, however I figured it would be at least 7 figures as a starting offer.

 

[Figs]

Rourke's performance in 'The Wrestler' is one of the best ive ever seen but it is not a blockbuster and he is a 52 year old actor with a very bad rep from the past, so i expected they wouldn't be paying him a colossal amount as IM2 is as valuable to him exposure-wise as his possible Oscar win will be to them on a credibility scale, however I figured it would be at least 7 figures as a starting offer.

That's one of the main reasons why I'm not surprised with his offer.

People also need to remember that The Wrestler is the one film that is getting him recognition. Yeah, he did some some other roles(Sin City, small role in The Pledge) but The Wrestler is what got him back in the spotlight.

That's only one movie, he still needs to prove himself more to earn those larger paychecks.

Just like Downey Jr. had told Paltrow "Don't you want to be in a movie that people are actually going to see?" You know this sequel is going to be pretty damn big due to the popularity of the first one, Mickey and Rockwell will get some damn good exposure from this.

 

[Mastodon123]

Rourke doesn't do movies for the money. He didn't get any pay for his role in The Wrestler. Marvel might have offered him more, but requested a lower pay.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Rourke doesn't do movies for the money. He didn't get any pay for his role in The Wrestler. Marvel might have offered him more, but requested a lower pay.

Im gonna reserve judgement on that assumption because we have seen it plenty of times before. Big name actors request big bucks for movies like Iron Man but when it comes to indies that they want to be apart of and really believe in you'll see them take a pay cut.

 

[Mastodon123]

Rourke isn't a big name though. Rourke said they reason he stopped doing movies in the first place was because he started doing them for money and lost respect for himself. I could actually see him request a lower pay for any movie he really wanted to do. He seems to be a really modest guy.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Rourke isn't a big name though. Rourke said they reason he stopped doing movies in the first place was because he started doing them for money and lost respect for himself. I could actually see him request a lower pay for any movie he really wanted to do. He seems to be a really modest guy.

But theres a difference between doing a movie for the money and doing a movie and getting paid well. Robert Downey Jr isnt getting paid peanuts but Im sure he definitely wants to make Iron Man for the reasons other than the money. But Rourke made Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man because they were going to pay him even though he knew it was going to be a bad movie.

 

[Mastodon123]

But theres a difference between doing a movie for the money and doing a movie and getting paid well. Robert Downey Jr isnt getting paid peanuts but Im sure he definitely wants to make Iron Man for the reasons other than the money. But Rourke made Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man because they were going to pay him even though he knew it was going to be a bad movie.

well obviously

 

[cerealkiller182]

well obviously

So your point that Rourke said he was doing movies for the money doesnt really translate to him volunteering for lesser pay.

 

[Saint]

I am increasingly concerned that the attempts for the studio to save money are going to hurt this film.