The Avengers 'The Other'....SPOILERS!

[darthmagic]

While i was watching the movie the character of 'The Other' was totally bugging me. The charater was featured waaaaay too much to be a mere underling to

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Thanos

As the movie went on only one character came to mind. Do you think 'The Other' is actually...

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[Olan]

Are you talking about the person that at the first is talking to Loki and at the end to Thanos? I thought gthat was a Chitauri leader.

 

[darthmagic]

Are you talking about the person that at the first is talking to Loki and at the end to Thanos? I thought gthat was a Chitauri leader.

Yeah him. Technically it was the Chitauri leader, but he seems to be second in comand to

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Thanos

In the ultimates he is the son of the character in the mid credit scene.

 

[Aztec]

Are you talking about the person that at the first is talking to Loki and at the end to Thanos? I thought gthat was a Chitauri leader.

That was my assumption as well. He is merely serving Thanos.

 

[The Infernal]

I don't see how it being [BLACKOUT]Ronan[/BLACKOUT] makes much sense. Mind you the popular theory is that 'The Other' is [BLACKOUT]Annihilus[/BLACKOUT] because that's where IMDB kept directing people (not a great source of info). I'm not sure that character makes much sense subservient to [BLACKOUT]Thanos[/BLACKOUT], but I don't know a great deal about his character either.

 

[darthmagic]

I don't see how it being [BLACKOUT]Ronan[/BLACKOUT] makes much sense. Mind you the popular theory is that 'The Other' is [BLACKOUT]Annihilus[/BLACKOUT] because that's where IMDB kept directing people (not a great source of info). I'm not sure that character makes much sense subservient to [BLACKOUT]Thanos[/BLACKOUT], but I don't know a great deal about his character either.

In the ultimate universe where the film seems to get much of it's inspiration, Ronan is Thanos' son.

 

[The Infernal]

In the ultimate universe where the film seems to get much of it's inspiration, Ronan is Thanos' son.

Didn't know that, but that sounds like one hell of a deviation from his 616 self. Ultimateverse stuff does often seem to change a lot of things beyond recognition, I have to wonder if Ronan fans would be ok with this.

 

[darthmagic]

Didn't know that, but that sounds like one hell of a deviation from his 616 self. Ultimateverse stuff does often seem to change a lot of things beyond recognition, I have to wonder if Ronan fans would be ok with this.

I know Thanos fans hated this. lol Thanos is a worshiper of death so for him to have a childis blasphemy. But Ronan could just be adopted like you know...Loki t:

 

[kedrell]

I know Thanos fans hated this. lol Thanos is a worshiper of death so for him to have a child is blasphemy. But Ronan could just be adopted like you know...Loki t:

But wait, even in the 616 Thanos has his daughter Nebula.

 

[The Infernal]

I know Thanos fans hated this. lol Thanos is a worshiper of death so for him to have a childis blasphemy. But Ronan could just be adopted like you know...Loki t:

I doubt adoption would seem much better to Thanos fans either.

But wait, even in the 616 Thanos has his daughter Nebula.

Wasn't that one retconned? Pretty sure he disfigured or murderd some girl pretending to be his daughter.

 

[captainrogers]

I don't know, to me, it seemed as if the Chitauri were sort of half dead reanimated creatures with singular purpose. When the one pulled its face plate off, it seemed skull like. Plus they were all integrated with machinery. The other was Chitauri as well, (I assume this because he too, had 2 opposable thumbs on each hand), but what was visible of his face had more 'flesh' on it.
Thanos could have very well been commanding his own army of the dead.
Perhaps the Chitauri in the cinematic U were a long dead (and therefor unknown) race almost all but eradicated by Thanos and repurposed as his army.
All conjecture on my part, but it's how I see it going down.

 

[captainrogers]

But wait, even in the 616 Thanos has his daughter Nebula.

She only claimed to be his granddaughter.

 

[kedrell]

Ah, I see. Thanks.

 

[darthmagic]

I don't know, to me, it seemed as if the Chitauri were sort of half dead reanimated creatures with singular purpose. When the one pulled its face plate off, it seemed skull like. Plus they were all integrated with machinery. The other was Chitauri as well, (I assume this because he too, had 2 opposable thumbs on each hand), but what was visible of his face had more 'flesh' on it.
Thanos could have very well been commanding his own army of the dead.
Perhaps the Chitauri in the cinematic U were a long dead (and therefor unknown) race almost all but eradicated by Thanos and repurposed as his army.
All conjecture on my part, but it's how I see it going down.

I think you are on to something. A being who worships death could have an army of reanimated corpses instead of living beings.

 

[The Infernal]

I think you are on to something. A being who worships death could have an army of reanimated corpses instead of living beings.

It would seem fitting and in keeping with how they seemed to operate in the film, especially when the portal was cut off and how they plugged into those sky sled things.

Also, it's a shame we don't have access to a pic of 'The Other'. He wasn't on screen for very long, I think it would help to dissect his look and theorise what/who he could be.

 

[kedrell]

I got a real 'Voice of Sauron' vibe off of him. Watch the ROTK extended edition and compare. He's like the 'Voice of Thanos'.

 

[The Infernal]

I haven't seen the extended edition, so I can't really compare right now. Though hopefully in the sequel Thanos is his own person and can speak for himself.

 

[Incredible Hans]

It would seem fitting and in keeping with how they seemed to operate in the film, especially when the portal was cut off and how they plugged into those sky sled things.

Also, it's a shame we don't have access to a pic of 'The Other'. He wasn't on screen for very long, I think it would help to dissect his look and theorise what/who he could be.

I think he had a Thanos-like chin.

 

[Saint]

Looked like a Skrull to me, but I have no idea why a Skrull would be involved, so it seems unlikely that I'm right.

 

[Incredible Hans]

I believe some people mistook him for Thanos because of the chin. That's why they claimed that Thanos also appeared at the beginning of the movie.

The explanation for that chin thing could be: the Chitauri are a Skrull variant, the Skrulls are all Deviants, and Thanos is an Eternal born with the Deviant gene (man, this sounds complicated...).

 

[metaphysician]

My own theory is that the Other is a "true" Chitauri, whereas the army we saw were bio-android soldiers. Quasi-living weapons, IOW, rather than actual members of the species.

 

[captainrogers]

The other also kinda reminded me of the go betweens Thanos would always have between himself and Death

 

[mightiest_mortal]

I think he was just another of Thanos' many generals. I'm not even entirely sure if the whole army were the Chitauri or if it was just him that the army belonged to, as they seemed more like biomechanical-droids than an actual species.

 

[captainrogers]

I think he was just another of Thanos' many generals. I'm not even entirely sure if the whole army were the Chitauri or if it was just him that the army belonged to, as they seemed more like biomechanical-droids than an actual species.

They all had 2 thumbs on each hand(which to me indicated common biology).
As for the other's chin, I found it hard to make out.
That couldn't tell if that was 'indents' or obscuring/shadows from his grate-like mask.

 

[cherokeesam]

I don't know, to me, it seemed as if the Chitauri were sort of half dead reanimated creatures with singular purpose. When the one pulled its face plate off, it seemed skull like. Plus they were all integrated with machinery. The other was Chitauri as well, (I assume this because he too, had 2 opposable thumbs on each hand), but what was visible of his face had more 'flesh' on it.
Thanos could have very well been commanding his own army of the dead.
Perhaps the Chitauri in the cinematic U were a long dead (and therefor unknown) race almost all but eradicated by Thanos and repurposed as his army.
All conjecture on my part, but it's how I see it going down.

That's a good theory.
And it would explain how/why they all "turn off" when the portal closes. If they were living-flesh alien beings, they would most likely still be alive, just cut off from home.

As for "The Other," I wouldn't read any comic-book canon to that character at all....he seems to be an invention of the movie. Although if you wanted to get technical about the Chitauri in the Ultimates, as their leader, he would be Herr Kleiser. Minus the Nazi uniform.