The Piracy Threat...?

[BlackLantern]

With Oink being shut down and now the revelation that the MPAA employed a known hacker to track movie pirates...what is the next step? Has this current run of piracy crackdown action affected anyone significantly? Is this just one more step towards more severe action by the MPAA and the RIAA? or are you all just a bunch of thieves who deserve to get arrested like the MPAA and the RIAA says?

Let's try and keep it on topic.....no rants about the President, 9/11, or global warming....

 

[Addendum]

The leaks stem from the music industry and movie studios. Seal those leaks and the amount of content available will decrease significantly. The only content available would then be someone's collection of music or movies.

The RIAA view themselves as doing right by the music industry, The only thing is that they better be damn sure that the person they're bringing charges against is the actual person that made the content available. A couple weeks ago on NPR, I heard about a family that had a case brought against them by the RIAA. They said that their 11 year old daughter was responsible. When it was looked at closely, the person responsible lived 250 miles away from this family, whom they had never met. The case was then dismissed but the RIAA refuses to pay the court costs, making the family responsible for those.

 

[Kritish]

The MPAA and RIAA is scum, I love that they have the nerve to call pirates criminals when they'll use illegal tactics like that. I hope a site like the pirate bay sues the hell out of them.

 

[BlackLantern]

I read someone did try to sue the RIAA but the judge threw it out because when the court date came around the plaintiff didn't show up. Apparently he was stuck in traffic or something. The judge made a statement about adult behavior and dismissed the case. don't know if this is true at all, but I wouldn't doubt it

 

[Kritish]

I read someone did try to sue the RIAA but the judge threw it out because when the court date came around the plaintiff didn't show up. Apparently he was stuck in traffic or something. The judge made a statement about adult behavior and dismissed the case. don't know if this is true at all, but I wouldn't doubt it

The federal government would rather suck the corporate **** of big business than go after the real menace.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

are you all just a bunch of thieves who deserve to get arrested like the MPAA and the RIAA says?

That one.

If a guy had an old chair for sale, and you stole it, if caught, you'd be arrested.
When I had to go to court once, before my case, there was a man, an old man, in jail clothes, and I couldn't believe it, his case centered around the fact that he stole a drink, some candy bars and some canned food at a 7-11.


Art, Music, Film, Video Games, are more precious, rare and valuable than an old chair, or a couple of candy bars and a can of Hormel chili and a Mountain Dew.

People study and learn their crafts for decades, make sacrifices, blow tons of money and bust ****ing ass to magically bring intangible ideas and beauty to our world, and then lazy bastards exploit that intangibility.

If people who grow marijuana weeds are locked up, f***ing THIEVES should definitely be locked up.



The situation is sort of like the L.A. riots.
If one guy breaks a window and steals a color TV, he can be caught.
But if everyone is doing it, they overloaded the system, the law can't be enforced, and the savage Philistines get away with their crime, through sheer numbers.

 

[BlackLantern]

That one.

If a guy had an old chair for sale, and you stole it, if caught, you'd be arrested.
When I had to go to court once, before my case, there was a man, an old man, in jail clothes, and I couldn't believe it, his case centered around the fact that he stole a drink, some candy bars and some canned food at a 7-11.


Art, Music, Film, Video Games, are more precious, rare and valuable than an old chair, or a couple of candy bars and a can of Hormel chili and a Mountain Dew.

People study and learn their crafts for decades, make sacrifices, blow tons of money and bust ****ing ass to magically bring intangible ideas and beauty to our world, and then lazy bastards exploit that intangibility.

If people who grow marijuana weeds are locked up, f***ing THIEVES should definitely be locked up.



The situation is sort of like the L.A. riots.
If one guy breaks a window and steals a color TV, he can be caught.
But if everyone is doing it, they overloaded the system, the law can't be enforced, and the savage Philistines get away with their crime, through sheer numbers.

Good point Wilhlem....I can agree with that. I think the mindset of most people is that these studios and such are multimillion dollar corporations and its ok to "steal" from them. no one thinks about the regular people working at these places, secretaries, production assistants, and the like who are not rolling in the companies profits...but when someone like Sony records has to cut jobs because in 2 years their cashflow has been nearly cut in half because no one buys CD's anymore...those regular folks are the first ones to go....

 

[Figs]

That one.

If a guy had an old chair for sale, and you stole it, if caught, you'd be arrested.
When I had to go to court once, before my case, there was a man, an old man, in jail clothes, and I couldn't believe it, his case centered around the fact that he stole a drink, some candy bars and some canned food at a 7-11.


Art, Music, Film, Video Games, are more precious, rare and valuable than an old chair, or a couple of candy bars and a can of Hormel chili and a Mountain Dew.

People study and learn their crafts for decades, make sacrifices, blow tons of money and bust ****ing ass to magically bring intangible ideas and beauty to our world, and then lazy bastards exploit that intangibility.

If people who grow marijuana weeds are locked up, f***ing THIEVES should definitely be locked up.



The situation is sort of like the L.A. riots.
If one guy breaks a window and steals a color TV, he can be caught.
But if everyone is doing it, they overloaded the system, the law can't be enforced, and the savage Philistines get away with their crime, through sheer numbers.

Damn good point! I've personally had enough of these scumbags! All this hacking and the money scams online need to stop.

 

[Kritish]

Oh please, someone get's paid for whatever you're downloading. To compare it to stealing a television or some **** is ridiculous. Why don't we arrest people for ripping music onto their iPod's from their CD's while we're at it.

 

[Showtime]

Amercian Gangster just leaked to the torrents.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Oh please, someone get's paid for whatever you're downloading. To compare it to stealing a television or some **** is ridiculous. Why don't we arrest people for ripping music onto their iPod's from their CD's while we're at it.

I'll be back to correct you after a quick smoke.

 

[BlackLantern]

Oh please, someone get's paid for whatever you're downloading. To compare it to stealing a television or some **** is ridiculous. Why don't we arrest people for ripping music onto their iPod's from their CD's while we're at it.

Its a decent comparison. Whether is a physical object or not, it is acquiring property that does not belong to you by "illegal" means. Me personally, I don't burn movies because I like my DVD's in the nice packaging and everything.....I don't own a lot of CD's anyway so I cant comment on the music side of it. I go to the theater occasionally, yes it is overpriced, but here in the northeast everyone is pretty much used to it.

 

[Figs]

Oh please, someone get's paid for whatever you're downloading. To compare it to stealing a television or some **** is ridiculous. Why don't we arrest people for ripping music onto their iPod's from their CD's while we're at it.

Were talking about illegal downloading not people paying Itunes or something to download the music. Someone using Limewire, Morpheus or any one of those systems.

When people use those, the bands/artists lose out on profits. For musicians, especially ones starting out, that can kill their career. Say a band doesn't sell many albums because most people are downloading them for free, they look bad to the studio who will/can drop their asses for not selling enough.

 

[BlackLantern]

Amercian Gangster just leaked to the torrents.

so someone working for the studio or someone that received a screener leaked it.....I think part of the problem is that these studios send out all these screeners to advertisers and such....and then are out in the open...

 

[Mr Jide]

I pay my electricity bills and my internet bills. I'll download what ever the hell I want! Why walk around the lake when you can easily walk across it?

 

[BlackLantern]

I pay my electricity bills and my internet bills. I'll download what ever the hell I want! Why walk around the lake when you can easily walk across it?

Because, as current copyright law states, it is illegal.....whether its fair or not isnt the issue....

 

[Kritish]

Were talking about illegal downloading not people paying Itunes or something to download the music. Someone using Limewire, Morpheus or any one of those systems.

When people use those, the bands/artists lose out on profits. For musicians, especially ones starting out, that can kill their career. Say a band doesn't sell many albums because most people are downloading them for free, they look bad to the studio who will/can drop their asses for not selling enough.

Yes, because the Beatles need ten more dollars from you.

The music industry hasn't died yet, hell a lot of people buy the albums after they've downloaded them.

 

[StrainedEyes]

I used to dabble in it a few years ago.. But I have grown out of it all together. I pay for everything now. Itunes is crazy cheap compared to Cd's, it's stupid to be so cheap that you can't pay $0.99 a song.
And the little software I want, I buy, like Adobe CS3 and Painter..

As an artist, I would not want people stealing what I do.

 

[StrainedEyes]

Yes, because the Beatles need ten more dollars from you.

The music industry hasn't died yet, hell a lot of people buy the albums after they've downloaded them.

That's not the point at all. It doesn't matter how much money someone has. Once people are rich it isn't fair game to steal from them.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I pay my electricity bills and my internet bills. I'll download what ever the hell I want! Why walk around the lake when you can easily walk across it?

Uh, just because you "pay your internet bill" it doesn't mean you have license to download child pornography, or to download art that someone ELSE stole and put on the internet against the wishes of the person who is selling the art.

 

[BlackLantern]

That's not the point at all. It doesn't matter how much money someone has. Once people are rich it isn't fair game to steal from them.

.....apparently most of the downloading folks don't see it that way....excellent point.....

 

[Erzengel]

I'm with you guys, the fact that those 3 movies did so well for being mediocre as best. It's very disconcerting.

 

[black_dust]

Its just Global Scare tatics they are doing the same thing in Europe at the moment by closing down tv-links.com and arressting people who run large downloading sites.

 

[Steve Rogers]

or are you all just a bunch of thieves who deserve to get arrested like the MPAA and the RIAA says?

That's the one. Stealing is stealing be it a car, $40,000, or digital copies of music or movies. It's no different than going into a DVD store and shoplifting.

 

[black_dust]

That's the one. Stealing is stealing be it a car, $40,000, or digital copies of music or movies. It's no different than going into a DVD store and shoplifting.

Yeah it is, you have to get off your ass to steal those items, downloading you dont so HA!! diffrent