Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. The RATINGS Thread

Would the numbers for the second been as good if the teaser for Ant Man had been shown after the first hour?
 
metaphysician said:
Ehhh. . . I'm rather kind of dubious of the idea that they should continue the show decades into the future. While it doesn't bother me as much as some people I know, when you get down to it? SHIELD kind of has a doomed future, what with being infiltrated and corrupted from within by HYDRA. In these early days, you can focus on the promise rather than the fate, but if you push the show into the 60s and 70s, nevermind the 80s? You *really* can't avoid the show being a huge tragedy, and having it at least tacitly be Peggy Carter's fault.
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Just because there was evil within doesn't mean they couldn't do good. I think SHIELD was right to form the Avengers Initiative even though there were Hydra members. In addition, it's not like SHIELD was controlled by Hydra (really ever, but certainly not even arguably until recently). It was a specific event that led Alexander Pierce to join Hydra. Nick Fury never did. SHIELD eventually collapses because of Hydra's infiltration, but that didn't mean there weren't good people.

And the show isn't called "SSR" or "SHIELD: The Early Years." It's called "Agent Carter" and that's what it's about. It's following her. If it also provides an opportunity to explore the Marvel Universe of a different era (or different eras) that's a good thing. I'd like the 1960s to see if we can get some Ant-Man action on the show. I'd also love for them to take what they're doing well (making this a period piece) and freshen that up with a different era.
 
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...ent-in-adults-18-49-in-live-3-ratings/349022/

Live + 3 Day Data for Tuesday, 1/6/15


·ABC's series debut of Marvel's Agent Carter grew to a 2.7 rating among Adults 18-49 (from a 1.9 in L+SD) in the L+3 numbers, spiking by +42% (+0.8 rating points) over its L+SD rating.

·The L+3 Adult 18-49 gain for Agent Carter (+42%) was higher than the L+3 lift of the debut telecast of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (+38%).

·Agent Carter added another +2.3 million Total Viewers after just 3 days of TV playback, building to 9.2 million viewers (from 6.9 million in L+SD).
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I have no idea if that's a good or bad sign.
 
A 2.7 rating live+ is awesome. I mean I have a feeling the series may settle at around the same ratings as shield, but shields ratings are fine even if they're not great.
 
TalismanRing said:
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...ent-in-adults-18-49-in-live-3-ratings/349022/
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the numbers will drop a little, I think Marvel should have busted the numbers a little more, having the 2nd trailer of AoU released during the show (the 3rd episode) tomorrow. But the critics were good, the numbers were good compared to AoS, and also considering this a show running on a schedule that is not their own but as a filler.
I hope this will encourage Marvel to have them making more shows with Female Characters as leads and also they hopefully, they the channel will want a 2nd season (8 to 10 episodes seem like a good number for a season).
 
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Mike Murdock said:
Just because there was evil within doesn't mean they couldn't do good. I think SHIELD was right to form the Avengers Initiative even though there were Hydra members. In addition, it's not like SHIELD was controlled by Hydra (really ever, but certainly not even arguably until recently). It was a specific event that led Alexander Pierce to join Hydra. Nick Fury never did. SHIELD eventually collapses because of Hydra's infiltration, but that didn't mean there weren't good people.

And the show isn't called "SSR" or "SHIELD: The Early Years." It's called "Agent Carter" and that's what it's about. It's following her. If it also provides an opportunity to explore the Marvel Universe of a different era (or different eras) that's a good thing. I'd like the 1960s to see if we can get some Ant-Man action on the show. I'd also love for them to take what they're doing well (making this a period piece) and freshen that up with a different era.
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Why not just do a Hank Pym series?
 
Because series have to get approved by networks. You have much more flexibility when you have a preexisting show.

On top of that, I think a couple of episodes is easier on the budget than a whole series (even a mini-series). You can afford to spend more money on a couple of episodes and then have some cheaper bottle episodes to make up for it.
 
Mike Murdock said:
Because series have to get approved by networks. You have much more flexibility when you have a preexisting show.

On top of that, I think a couple of episodes is easier on the budget than a whole series (even a mini-series). You can afford to spend more money on a couple of episodes and then have some cheaper bottle episodes to make up for it.
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So you'd jump Agent Carter two decades into the future? Just for a few episodes where you can see Hank Pym?

If Agent Carter is a success and so is Ant Man I can't see why a tv company wouldn't think it would be a good idea to do a mini series about Pym in the 60's.
 
No, I'd jump it (probably five to ten years per season) so you can explore that era. I'd like to see how the world of Agent Carter interacts with the Civil Rights movement, the Hippie movement, etc.
 
Mike Murdock said:
No, I'd jump it (probably five to ten years per season) so you can explore that era. I'd like to see how the world of Agent Carter interacts with the Civil Rights movement, the Hippie movement, etc.
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Possible. But it might be difficult for a mini series to cover what had happened in the last 5 years every season. How had everyones lives changed. Who got promoted/died/retired/married had kids etc... Also Carter would be in her 50's by the 60's. She'd be a mother and married by then. Do we really want to see Carter balance her work and family life? Most probably working behind a desk as head of Shield.

Personally I like Carter set in the post war time frame. The MCU is planned up until 2028 according to Feige and Forbes. Can't see why they couldn't release a few more series set in different times to bring us up to date. AOS and Carter seem to both be doing well at the moment.
 
Sooo, close to the AoS numbers...
As I suspected.
 
Television viewing has changed so much in the last year, even. EVERYONE is DVR'ing, Streaming, Hulu-ing, Amazon Priming. It's astonishing, really, how segmented the viewing audience has become. The Live numbers are only the beginning.

Marvel plays the long game. They aren't looking at tonight, necessarily, but at the big picture. The big picture is that they need content, they need shows that they can sell all over the world to advance the Marvel brand. This show is QUALITY all the way. If Marvel is patient enough, it will pay off in big dividends down the line.
 
^I hope so. I want another season of this show!

Lilbaz said:
Possible. But it might be difficult for a mini series to cover what had happened in the last 5 years every season. How had everyones lives changed. Who got promoted/died/retired/married had kids etc... Also Carter would be in her 50's by the 60's. She'd be a mother and married by then. Do we really want to see Carter balance her work and family life? Most probably working behind a desk as head of Shield.

Personally I like Carter set in the post war time frame. The MCU is planned up until 2028 according to Feige and Forbes. Can't see why they couldn't release a few more series set in different times to bring us up to date. AOS and Carter seem to both be doing well at the moment.
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Yeah, no way we're ever going to get an elderly female lead. I don't see future seasons ever getting past the 50s.
 
Final ratings for Tuesday are in, no Rating adjustment on AC

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...interest-ncis-new-orleans-adjusted-up/350211/

Agent Carter
1.5 18-49 Rating
5.10 million viewers

Someone on another board did mention something interesting, they said that Agent Carter in their area was completely preempted on Tuesday due to an NCAA game being shown on their local ABC affiliate with a scrawl along the bottom saying they would be getting ep 3 of AC on Sunday instead. If multiple areas had this problem, that *might* be a reason for at least *some* (not necessarily all) of the downward tick?

Just throwing it out there.
 
Blah, I hope it does well enough for more episodes. That is all I can hope for. Love it so far.
 
I'm torn on if I want "Agent Carter" to continue because, while I think it's fantastic, I'd rather have a new miniseries every winter...and summer too while we're at it. "AoS" could/should be the only long form program. And since Atwell has the probability of showing up from time to time in the movies a la the ANT-MAN flashback, she will still be seen. I mean, I get it. She's great. She has unbelievable movie star charisma and her and Jarvis' chemistry is pretty fantastic. But I'd be more than happy with a close-ended eight episode series. Then next winter we get a Howling Commandos show or a young Hank Pym show or Cloak and Dagger or something. Who knows, maybe the Time Gem brings Peggy into the present in a future movie.
 
Art Freak said:
I'm torn on if I want "Agent Carter" to continue because, while I think it's fantastic, I'd rather have a new miniseries every winter...and summer too while we're at it. "AoS" could/should be the only long form program. And since Atwell has the probability of showing up from time to time in the movies a la the ANT-MAN flashback, she will still be seen. I mean, I get it. She's great. She has unbelievable movie star charisma and her and Jarvis' chemistry is pretty fantastic. But I'd be more than happy with a close-ended eight episode series. Then next winter we get a Howling Commandos show or a young Hank Pym show or Cloak and Dagger or something. Who knows, maybe the Time Gem brings Peggy into the present in a future movie.
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Would like a few seasons of Agent Carter. There is no rush for other Marvel Tv series. The movies are allegedly planned up till 2028. Think there will be plenty of tv shows in that time as well on different channels.
 
Art Freak said:
I'm torn on if I want "Agent Carter" to continue because, while I think it's fantastic, I'd rather have a new miniseries every winter...and summer too while we're at it. "AoS" could/should be the only long form program. And since Atwell has the probability of showing up from time to time in the movies a la the ANT-MAN flashback, she will still be seen. I mean, I get it. She's great. She has unbelievable movie star charisma and her and Jarvis' chemistry is pretty fantastic. But I'd be more than happy with a close-ended eight episode series. Then next winter we get a Howling Commandos show or a young Hank Pym show or Cloak and Dagger or something. Who knows, maybe the Time Gem brings Peggy into the present in a future movie.
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I feel the same way, and I've mentioned this idea here or there. I, too, am really enjoying Agent Carter, so this isn't to say I don't want more of that show. But I think a different miniseries every winter would be a great way to explore supporting characters who would never get their own films. I've mentioned a "Tales of Asgard" mini with a Sif/Loki lead (Jamie Alexander is probably more likely than Hiddleston to get for more than just a cameo...) to bridge the gap between AoU and Thor: Ragnarok. If we get Brother Voodoo in Doctor Strange, a miniseries would be a cool way to flesh him out without making him seem redundant, or like a "black best friend," in Strange's film. The possibilities are endless.

Of course, one reason Agent Carter seems to fit so seamlessly into what ABC is doing is because of how closely it ties in to SHIELD. That would be sacrificed with some of my spin-off ideas. I really like your idea of keeping Agent Carter going, but putting some shows on a summer schedule (downside here being: isn't it harder to get good ratings over the summer? Viewership is down or something?)
 
seahammer said:
I feel the same way, and I've mentioned this idea here or there. I, too, am really enjoying Agent Carter, so this isn't to say I don't want more of that show. But I think a different miniseries every winter would be a great way to explore supporting characters who would never get their own films. I've mentioned a "Tales of Asgard" mini with a Sif/Loki lead (Jamie Alexander is probably more likely than Hiddleston to get for more than just a cameo...) to bridge the gap between AoU and Thor: Ragnarok. If we get Brother Voodoo in Doctor Strange, a miniseries would be a cool way to flesh him out without making him seem redundant, or like a "black best friend," in Strange's film. The possibilities are endless.

Of course, one reason Agent Carter seems to fit so seamlessly into what ABC is doing is because of how closely it ties in to SHIELD. That would be sacrificed with some of my spin-off ideas. I really like your idea of keeping Agent Carter going, but putting some shows on a summer schedule (downside here being: isn't it harder to get good ratings over the summer? Viewership is down or something?)
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People on holiday. Sunbathing, partying and generally not sitting in front of a tv. Although with more people recording the shows to watch later and binge this might not be as much of an issue.
 
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