The Run Time Length Thread

[danoyse]

I hope someone at Fox reads this thread and ****s their pants and does something about it....ie making the movie longer or killing Tom Rothman.

I don't think killing the man is going to make the movie longer...

 

[chaseter]

I don't think killing the man is going to make the movie longer...

So X4 or Wolverine 2 has a good chance at being good. They could even make a movie out of it called: "Tom Rothman Must Die." Suck and rape the life out of everything until the end - Fox's motto.

 

[snwboarder88]

As of now, way under two hours.

My Jaw hit the friken floor when she said that...and the way she said it made it seem like why would you want it to be 2hr or longer.

And then on top of that they cut out the storm scene!!! WTF!!!

If the movie is WELL under 2hrs that screams 1hr 35min to me, which leads me to the question...why cut anything out!

I mean, how can the storm cameo hurt the film at all...it would only help add to the film, and be one kick ass way to tie wolvie to xmen1!!!!

Im so frustrated...I hope she was drunk for the interview and was just confusing the run time with X3!!!

 

[Peter McCabe]

I would agree with you if this wasn't coming from a studio that purposely cuts their movies and they tend to decline in quality. If this was from WB or Sony then I wouldn't be so pessimistic about it but this is Fox.

You have no idea how excited I was to see my run time thread bumped. I was thinking we got some news on the run time and I was so excited and then this

Yes, it is FOX - but FOX and Jackman/Hood/Benioff/Schreiber/Huston.

If you wanna get your hopes up again, go watch Rendition and The Kite Runner.

Watch The Proposition and Defiance.

the talent in this film alone is strong enough to keep me motivated to see it despite the news we got today.

let's keep in mind that several great films have been tampered with by the studios behind them and ended up Best Picture Academy Award winners.

obviously this is not gonna be Oscar material, but it can be this generation's MAD MAX with a 90 -100 minute run time

 

[danoyse]

So X4 or Wolverine 2 has a good chance at being good. They could even make a movie out of it called: "Tom Rothman Must Die." Suck and rape the life out of everything until the end - Fox's motto.

OK, let's not turn this into an AICN talkback thread.

 

[Downhere]

^ Yeah, I listened to the audio and she is like, "Oh, it's waaaayy under 2 hours." It's like have they not learned that you can have a 2 hour + film and it still make money. Iron Man, Batman Begins, TDK, ringing any bells there Fox? Geesh.

 

[danoyse]

If you wanna get your hopes up again, go watch Rendition and The Kite Runner.

Rendition was a mess. Go watch Tsotsi instead.

 

[chaseter]

Well then lets also get back on the topic of run time

 

[Downhere]

Yes, it is FOX - but FOX and Jackman/Hood/Benioff/Schreiber/Huston.

If you wanna get your hopes up again, go watch Rendition and The Kite Runner.

Man, there's always someone to defend Fox even when there's been years of evidence to the contrary of a short runtime for a Fox film being a good thing.

It doesn't matter who the director is (i.e. Ridley Scott and Kingdom of Heaven) or the writer/producer, etc. when it comes to Fox. They will micromanage anyone, maybe the only one immune is James Cameron (we'll see).

 

[FaT_tONle]

^ Yeah, I listened to the audio and she is like, "Oh, it's waaaayy under 2 hours." It's like have they not learned that you can have a 2 hour + film and it still make money. Iron Man, Batman Begins, TDK, ringing any bells there Fox? Geesh.

There has gotto be something more to it. I think they are just going for the five day 100 million OW... maybe top out at around 150 or something. It would make sense to shorten it up if that's the case. But still, you are opening up the summer. Is there any other reasons we are missing as to why they'd make such a short film? I just don't get it.

They will micromanage anyone, maybe the only one immune is James Cameron (we'll see).

Man I forgot Avatar. I hope Rothman is ousted before then. It will never happen but I will pray. Cameron may save his ass.

 

[Chewy]

^ Yeah, I listened to the audio and she is like, "Oh, it's waaaayy under 2 hours." It's like have they not learned that you can have a 2 hour + film and it still make money. Iron Man, Batman Begins, TDK, ringing any bells there Fox? Geesh.

Sadly, X-Men 3 made more than Batman Begins. Quite a bit more


"WAY under two hours" = :facepalm

Not that I expected anything different.....

 

[danoyse]

There has gotto be something more to it. I think they are just going for the five day 100 million OW... maybe top out at around 150 or something. It would make sense to shorten it up if that's the case. But still, you are opening up the summer. Is there any other reasons we are missing as to why they'd make such a short film? I just don't get it.

It makes no sense to me either. Especially after how huge TDK and Iron Man were last year.

 

[Peter McCabe]

Rendition was a mess. Go watch Tsotsi instead.

you're kidding me??? t:

I thought it was fantastic.

*that twist ending with the daughter was just shocking.

Gyllenhaal showed real depth and maturity as an actor and all the middle eastern actors were top notch.

anyway, I own both movies and like them both ALOT.

Gavin Hood is definitely on my good graces

 

[FaT_tONle]

Sadly, X-Men 3 made more than Batman Begins. Quite a bit more


"WAY under two hours" = :facepalm

Not that I expected anything different.....

X-3 had a 200 plus budget. That's probably why Fox cant afford these huge budget comic book films... they are BARELY making their money back domestically. I mean you are going to turn in a profit at the end of the day. But that money is only enough to cover your losses in all likelyhood. Plus it's only one movie a year including FF.

 

[Downhere]

There has gotto be something more to it. I think they are just going for the five day 100 million OW... maybe top out at around 150 or something. It would make sense to shorten it up if that's the case. But still, you are opening up the summer. Is there any other reasons we are missing as to why they'd make such a short film? I just don't get it.

I'm thinking it's first and foremost to make as much money as possible during the first two weeks. Reason being last year wasn't so good to Fox. They can secure the production costs and advertising costs with a huge take in it's first two weeks. The shorter the film, the more showings you have and if the movie is bad, it will pitter out after two weeks so they will have made their money. Another reason is, I'm not sure when it comes out but I think it comes out the same weekend or close to it, is Hannah Montana. Yes, I know, it's a children's movie targeted to young girls, but they will make their parents take them. Maybe Fox is thinking it will take away from Wolverine (which it really shouldn't) but you never know.

Other than that, it's mostly about money.

 

[Downhere]

Sadly, X-Men 3 made more than Batman Begins. Quite a bit more


"WAY under two hours" = :facepalm

Not that I expected anything different.....

Well, domestically it made a bit more and internationally it did better, but Batman Begins had a lot of baggage compared to X3, which was riding the success of X2.

 

[Chewy]

It makes no sense to me either. Especially after how huge TDK and Iron Man were last year.

Hancock was huge, too. And it was around 90 minutes, I think.

(It also wasn't good at all, but that's neither here nor there)

 

[Peter McCabe]

Man, there's always someone to defend Fox even when there's been years of evidence to the contrary of a short runtime for a Fox film being a good thing.

It doesn't matter who the director is (i.e. Ridley Scott and Kingdom of Heaven) or the writer/producer, etc. when it comes to Fox. They will micromanage anyone, maybe the only one immune is James Cameron (we'll see).

Im not defending FOX.

I'm being rational about this issue with the running time.

you can't ASSUME the film is garbage just because its under 2 hours.

you can't ASSUME the film is garbage just because its a FOX movie.

there are at least a hundred great action movies that run 90 -100 minutes.

*I know for a fact jackman was influenced by MAD MAX when approaching this film and that film runs 93 minutes.

93 minutes.

 

[danoyse]

you're kidding me??? t:

I thought it was fantastic.

*that twist ending with the daughter was just shocking.

Gyllenhaal showed real depth and maturity as an actor and all the middle eastern actors were top notch.

anyway, I own both movies and like them both ALOT.

Gavin Hood is definitely on my good graces

The twist ending wasn't necessary. The characters were bland and had no real depth. The story should have just been about the rendition - and that would have worked better if the guy was actually guilty, because it creates a bigger moral dilemma about torture.

I've read articles about extraordinary rendition that were far more disturbing than that film. It just didn't work.

 

[JP]

What a shocker!

 

[snwboarder88]

Man, there's always someone to defend Fox even when there's been years of evidence to the contrary of a short runtime for a Fox film being a good thing.

It doesn't matter who the director is (i.e. Ridley Scott and Kingdom of Heaven) or the writer/producer, etc. when it comes to Fox. They will micromanage anyone, maybe the only one immune is James Cameron (we'll see).

You know thats really true, because FOX is doing the same exact thing right now to Joss Whedon on Dollhouse.

He had to completely shut down the production for 2 weeks, rewrite episodes, and completely ditch the pilot episode and rewrite and new one!

FOX has given us some great movies and shows through the years but im tired of being so opotomistic for them.

FOX is really pissing me off.

They completlely screwed so many classics and what the hell is with the 90 butcherd run times.

Will someone in the bizz please stand up to the pricks there! All these actors and directors are so far up their own asses they dont even care about the characters and material they are making...they just want a paycheck. So know one will complain and stand up for there projects against FOX.

 

[dark_b]

hey you defenders. you are nothing new here on SHH. before may payne,before hitman,FF,FF2,X3.... there were always some people who said ....''whait and see'. they were IMO always wrong.

what you dont understand is that FOX doesnt edit the movie but chops them down. watch AD babyylon. when you watch the movie you always know that there is something missing. why? because FOX took over the directors mvoie. and they edited parts that were important for the movie. why? because they had to shorten the movie down.

and didnt rothman repained the set? i guess this director doesnt have so much power.

you will see what will happen. they will make the movie 20 minutes shorter but they will lose the flow,pacing and and style. and for what? 1 million mpre in their pockets?

p.s. stop acting like Jackman has so much power that he will edit the movie himself. who the f.. is he? just because you saw on IMDB under producer hes name that doesnt mean that he will save this movie.They made f...Ridley Scott edit hes movie down. logic guys...logic

 

[FaT_tONle]

*I know for a fact jackman was influenced by MAD MAX when approaching this film and that film runs 93 minutes.

93 minutes.

You need to stop pulling facts from your ass... find me a quote from Jackman and maybe I'll give you some credence. Right now you are telling us the same stuff we heard three years ago.

 

[danoyse]

Another reason is, I'm not sure when it comes out but I think it comes out the same weekend or close to it, is Hannah Montana. Yes, I know, it's a children's movie targeted to young girls, but they will make their parents take them. Maybe Fox is thinking it will take away from Wolverine (which it really shouldn't) but you never know.

Hannah Montana's release date has been moved back to early April, I believe.

But yes, I agree it's about making as much money as possible before the next summer tentpole release. Fox is no shape to have another flop. Between Wolverine and Night at the Museum 2, they need to make a ton of money this year to make up for 2008.

 

[chaseter]

Ugh this ruined my day.