The Run Time Length Thread

[danoyse]

More and more do I believe McCabe somehow worked on this movie or is associated with it.

Oh, you think everyone works for Fox.

 

[Theweepeople]

Personally, I've given up on fanboys.

I've been here for 2 X-films now (X-Men: The Last Stand, and this one), and I've seen their reactions to nearly every comic film that's come out.

I find the fanboy perspective to be rather arrogant and self absorbed.

There's a few that maintain a level of logic and level headedness, but unfortunately they are outnumbered.

And no, it has nothing to do with liking or disliking certain films. Rather, it has everything to do with the lack of reasoning behind it. They think inside a box, and anything that goes outside of that box is all of a sudden corrupt, horrible, and evil.

*waits for thewheepeople to use this post against me in an unrelated argument in a year*

Why are you purposely trying to create tension between us? I'm not bashing this film right now so there's really no reason to bring me into this conversation unless you're trying to act like a dick towards me again.

It's obvious that you've always considered me to be one of the fanboys with no perspective. That's okay. No offence taken. Hopefully, you won't be offended if I consider you to be an elitist snob who lacks the emotional capacity to accept the opinions of those who dislike X-Men movies and other Fox films you enjoy.

 

[Peter McCabe]

McCabe, at first I thought you were a bit more reasonable in your opinions but after this post...your a typical Fox stooge. You'll take whatever they give you. While some of us want a good 'film', your in the group of people who think "It's another comic film, it must be good!".

Honestly, I got over the Deadpool thing before the leak happened. I realized, it is what it is and the movie is supposed to be about Wolverine after all. Just to make things clear, I'm not one of those super fanboys that complains about the littlest of changes either. I like the first two X-men films a lot, despite all their flaws and changes from the comics.

I just think it's a chump move to say that the fans that are still pissed about Deadpool deserve it. Let alone fans like myself that wanted a better quality film that would do the Wolverine comics justice...even with some changes here and there which happen in all comic films.

I too want a quality film, but I won't allow pre-determined notions fueled by irrelevant agendas to the overall concept of what this film should be to in any way compromise my excitement.

If the movie sucks, then I will say it sucks. I will describe my dissatisfaction in a full review dated sometime AFTER May 1st.

If it is good though, and I further confirm my theories that people here are only bashing it out of spite for FOX and hate for the changes made to Deadpool, then I will review it positively and emphacize most of my love for the film in the characters/story arc that should matter to those watching it.

Right now I smell a huge number of FOX haters using the leak as a tool to say "Look! FOX did it again."

On May 1st, we'll know if my sense of smell was off.

 

[TNC9852002]

There isn't 14 or 20 extra minutes worth so your list will be short and sweet A lot of the fx were done in the leak so there isn't much more in that film that will put my butt in the seat. Fox could have done so by actually putting in 20 extra minutes but it was a promise from a group of liars so no one should be shocked that it isn't so.

Oh, you think everyone works for Fox.

Chaseter seems to act that he's working for FOX too sometimes.

Me, I sympathize moreso with guys like McCabe and Nell, but I'm slightly different. Just in case anyone was wondering, I don't TRY to stay "on the level". I just have a tendency to go where the facts and the proven evidence or what I feel is logical leads me. Sure, my opinion has been swayed through optimism, despite knowing that there's a bigger risk in doing so. I'm just that kind of person in real-life.

I also find humor whenever someone believes so much into their assumptions that they take them as cold hard facts. Even if their assumptions are proven right afterward, they don't have any more power than they did before when other people thought otherwise.

With that said, this forum is becoming pretty depressing for me.

 

[sniktsnakt]

Oh, you think everyone works for Fox.

It's the new ultimate insult:

"Oh yeah? Well, you work for Fox!"

 

[chaseter]

I work for Fox...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I feel bad for some people on here because I was doing what they are doing 3 years ago and I was let down.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Why are you purposely trying to create tension between us? I'm not bashing this film right now so there's really no reason to bring me into this conversation unless you're trying to act like a dick towards me again.

It's obvious that you've always considered me to be one of the fanboys with no perspective. That's okay. No offence taken. Hopefully, you won't be offended if I consider you to be an elitist snob who lacks the emotional capacity to accept the opinions of those who dislike X-Men movies and other Fox films you enjoy.

I was wondering the same thing about you a few days back when you made a comment about your "prediction of me" coming true, after I voiced my opinion of the leaked film (when we were able to still talk about it)

I really couldn't care less what you think of me. If you think I can't accept people that dislike the X-Men films, you're more than welcome to your incorrect opinion. But I'm not going to justify myself to you.

 

[JP]

HAHA the workprint was 106 minutes including credits and this is 109...HAHAHAHAHA. 20 extra minutes my ***. People will believe anything.

The work print also contains a lot of footage that won't be in the film. As well as X3's credits, which were ridiculously long. I doubt this films credits will be as long as X3's.

 

[chaseter]

The work print also contains a lot of footage that won't be in the film. As well as X3's credits, which were ridiculously long. I doubt this films credits will be as long as X3's.

You know footage won't be in the final film how This movie is still not the extra 14 or 20 minutes promised that some people believed. It is still a 90 something minute movie. Yeah I know it had X3's credits and it was used to provide an estimate and so that estimate won't be too far off.

 

[Peter McCabe]

You know footage won't be in the final film how This movie is still not the extra 14 or 20 minutes promised that some people believed. It is still a 90 something minute movie.

Its actually 107 minutes.

 

[chaseter]

Its actually 107 minutes.

With credits

 

[danoyse]

OK, this thread is getting way too nasty, so here are the new rules if you want it to stay open:

1- STAY ON TOPIC. This is not the place to complain about Deadpool, or for anyone to decide who is the the better fan.

2 - Nell and theweepeople: knock it off. There's no reason to start picking silly arguments with each other, and none of us want to hear it.

3 - If this thread turns into a continuous stream of 'I told you so's', it's closed. The topic is over, go gloat somewhere else.

So let's play nice, don't play at all. Thank you.

 

[Figs]

I too want a quality film, but I won't allow pre-determined notions fueled by irrelevant agendas to the overall concept of what this film should be to in any way compromise my excitement.

If the movie sucks, then I will say it sucks. I will describe my dissatisfaction in a full review dated sometime AFTER May 1st.

I highly doubt this. You as well as I may not have watched the leaked version but I knew before the spoilers were banned you had heard enough about it from the people who saw it. I truly think you already have your mind made up, just from the simple notion that you have seeminly been positive about most if not all of the details about the movie...even the ones that had a lot of people pissed(NO, not just Deadpool).

I've seen you defend a number of these things even though a lot of the faults people are complaining about are typical things that are just bad for a film...the kind of things critics will trash on, not just fanboy purist problems.

If it is good though, and I further confirm my theories that people here are only bashing it out of spite for FOX and hate for the changes made to Deadpool, then I will review it positively and emphacize most of my love for the film in the characters/story arc that should matter to those watching it.

Right now I smell a huge number of FOX haters using the leak as a tool to say "Look! FOX did it again."

As for the last comment regarding 'Fox haters'. You say that as if the fact that it leaked was something the Fox haters jumped on and not the fact that they watched what leaked and saw with their own eyes what appears to be another Fox film that is of low quality. Sorry, you and the supporters can dream that the rumoured 11-14 minutes could drastically alter the film and get some of the haters to enjoy it more...but it's doubtful with all the complaints I've heard.

I also find humor whenever someone believes so much into their assumptions that they take them as cold hard facts. Even if their assumptions are proven right afterward, they don't have any more power than they did before when other people thought otherwise.

The hilarious thing is when you talk trash about people believing their own assumptions when people have seen a 99% finished version of the film and a lot of them agreed it had the same low quality problems typical of Fox. That a lot of what they complained about was what they didn't like with their other films (excluding X1 and 2 for the most part).

 

[Peter McCabe]

With credits

Credits won't go longer than 3 - 4 minutes.

that leaves the movie at 104 minutes.

that's not bad I think, I was expecting 90 - 100.

 

[JaD]

The work print also contains a lot of footage that won't be in the film. As well as X3's credits, which were ridiculously long. I doubt this films credits will be as long as X3's.

Yeah, I'm not giving up hope on this movie yet. I'm still excited to see this movie, and the worst I see happening is me giving this movie a 7 when I already gave the print a 6... If the critics tear this movie apart, then I'm confident that Fox won't let one of it's biggest (and best quality) superhero franchises go down the toilet in quality.

 

[Theweepeople]

I was wondering the same thing about you a few days back when you made a comment about your "prediction of me" coming true, after I voiced my opinion of the leaked film (when we were able to still talk about it)

Damn you're hypersensitive. How was making that prediction an example of me trying to create tension? I thought you would enjoy this movie more than TDK, Spider-man 1, and Spider-man 2 because X-Men is your favorite comic. I don't have a problem this and I'm not sure why you're trying to turn this into another silly fight.

I really couldn't care less what you think of me. If you think I can't accept people that dislike the X-Men films, you're more than welcome to your incorrect opinion. But I'm not going to justify myself to you.

That's fine.

 

[JP]

You know footage won't be in the final film how This movie is still not the extra 14 or 20 minutes promised that some people believed. It is still a 90 something minute movie. Yeah I know it had X3's credits and it was used to provide an estimate and so that estimate won't be too far off.

I assume the point of re-shoots is to.. well, re-shoot. You know, meaning there will be new scenes that will likely replace old scenes. Not that hard a concept to understand.

And 90 minutes? Are you saying the credits will roll for 18 minutes?

Honestly, I'm perfectly satisfied with the film as is, so it doesn't matter to me if the film is 4 extra minutes, or 10.

 

[chaseter]

I assume the point of re-shoots is to.. well, re-shoot. You know, meaning there will be new scenes that will likely replace old scenes. Not that hard a concept to understand.

And 90 minutes? Are you saying the credits will roll for 18 minutes?

Honestly, I'm perfectly satisfied with the film as is, so it doesn't matter to me if the film is 4 extra minutes, or 10.

I said 90 something minutes I can't say 97 minutes because I don't know how long the credits will be but they will be along the lines of X3 hence why they used them to estimate. They were pickups and who is to say that wasn't in the leak?

This movie is 90 something minutes long and the run time hurt the pacing and didn't allow for a lot of character development and that hurt the film and that is what critics will pound on the most.

 

[chaseter]

Credits won't go longer than 3 - 4 minutes.

that leaves the movie at 104 minutes.

that's not bad I think, I was expecting 90 - 100.

Credits will be longer than 5 minutes.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Honestly, I'm perfectly satisfied with the film as is, so it doesn't matter to me if the film is 4 extra minutes, or 10.

This.

I won't lie - as is, the film doesn't quite meet my expectations on what I'd hope for. I do find faults with it.

But overall, I am satisfied with it.

I never bought into the hype that there is an additional 14 - 20 minutes of footage in the film. I look at it as a bonus, if it is there.

But, I did get burned with X-Men: The Last Stand. I bought into the hype that certain things would be different, I even wrote a huge post about how I thought for sure that Cyclops would survive. When none of that stuff happened, I let it ruin the film for me. Just like I think many did.

In actuality, there's more to the film than Cyclops dying, and Rogue taking the cure. It's actually a good movie, if not a bit under developed.

I feel the same about this movie. Yes, some certain aspects of the film suck, and they all come at the end. But there's a whole lot more to the movie than that. Like X-Men 3, it's a good movie, if not a bit under developed.

If the 14 extra minutes is indeed true, then this movie is going to be pretty amazing.

 

[TheVileOne]

I'm sure the Watchmen fans are happy.

Karma has come back to roost at 20th Century Fox now.

And Fox has a lot of bad karma to go answer to.

 

[JP]

I'm sure the Watchmen fans are happy.

Karma has come back to roost at 20th Century Fox now.

And Fox has a lot of bad karma to go answer to.

How so? I have seen absolutely no indication that the leaked print will hurt the box office numbers at all. Quite the opposite, actually.

 

[TheVileOne]

Its not about box office per se. But you can't deny that Fox isn't happy about this.

Also, Fox legally claimed that the leak of the workprint might affect the box office, so they are publically stating as such.

 

[JaD]

You can look at it in several different ways, if the movie is huge and successful, then you can say the leak provided some extra publicity and press for their film. If it bombs horribly, then they can use the leak as causing some damage. Maybe turning certain people away from going to see the film.

 

[chaseter]

Everything I feared for this movie came true...the run time being the biggest. So, the leak happened and created a lot of bad wom and Fox is on spin control so I do think it will hurt the box office due to it not having good legs. It will probably still do good opening weekend but I think it will have a huge drop off and it won't make near as much as Tranformers, Harry Potter, Terminator, and maybe Star Trek.