The Sarah Connor Chronicles

[Gold Samurai]

Well, that "happy" ending would have opened up a can of worms given the nature of John Connor as a character. He's essentially an anomaly of time. He exists in the future, sends Reese back in time to protect his mother, who Reese impregnates, thus resulting in John being born in the first place. Removing Judgment Day from the equation means potentially removing John Connor from existence altogether. Leaving it as vague as Cameron ultimately did, distracts you from the fact that Judgment Day still needs to happen for John to even be born.

It's a paradox/ temporal loop. Although I don't see John fading away like how Back to the future depicted changed timeline.

John the senator still lived but now it's become an alternate universe.

 

[Nivek]

I'm a Marvel guy, so I was schooled in alternate timelines / butterfly effects so this doesn't confuse me that much.

 

[Paradox1]

It's a paradox/ temporal loop. Although I don't see John fading away like how Back to the future depicted changed timeline.

John the senator still lived but now it's become an alternate universe.

Once Kyle came back to the past and impregnated Sarah he made certain the timeline where he came from where John existed. If Skynet or judgment day was to be stopped he would not fade way. Only changing the future he existed but I could be wrong temporal paradoxes can give you headache.

 

[T'Jai]

long as Johns around the time line will correct Judgment Day back into play

 

[Paradox1]

I don't think Judgement Day is linked to John in anyway. Its inevitable cause whether its 10yrs or 100yrs the Machines will reach a point of intelligence that they become sentient beings with their own agenda.

 

[Angry Sentinel]

I don't know. What you say is true, but to say that J-day and John aren't linked is saying a lot.

What reason would Kyle have to travel through time if J-day doesn't happen until 75 years in the future.

It would definitely not be John Connor, he would not exist. So J-day may not be linked to John, but he is definitely linked to J-day.

 

[Paradox1]

I mean that he is not a cause of j-day but a product of

 

[T'Jai]

yeah but as long as the product exists there must be a cause...

the time line will auto correct Jday because John needs a cause to exist...

 

[Timstuff]

Derek Reese was not affected by the changes to the timeline since he went back. If it was possible for John and Cameron to disappear due to Judgment Day being averted, then Derek's memories should have been altered to match those of Jesse when she came back. In Terminator, I don't believe it's possible for people to vanish just because the timeline in the future has been altered, and that's never been a part of the mythos. Also, to further cement this, John and Sarah traveled 8 years into the future, which hypothetically should have shielded them from the effects of timeline tampering just like with Derek Reese.

 

[Mister J]

Going back a bit to some earlier comments, after having had a chance to clear out the ol' DVR, I definitely get the same mood-crashing vibe from Sarah. It's kinda putting me to this incarnation of the character. I like that she's flawed, strong and sometimes bullheaded, but that's doens't have to equate with ****ing annoying. I can't roll my eyes hard enough when she tries to get all alpha female with Cameron. It's laughable, then nauseating and I just wind up longing for the next scene featuring Cameron, Derek or John (who had a great arc this past ep).

Didn't really expect to see Charley again or another T-1000/1001. Speaking of which, they need to push this John Henry deal somewhere interesting soon. The ambiguity to it all built anticipation earlier, but now it's just 'get on with it already' for me. Of course, that would likely mean a heavy dose of Shirleynator, the prospect of which leaves me with towering levels of meh.

No more Riley or Jesse.

 

[kane9321]

What could be worse then being on friday nights? Saturday nights after cops re runs?

If it moves to wednesday..say 9pm. That could be much worse

 

[Timstuff]

2x post

 

[Timstuff]

Hehehe... Someone pointed me in the direction this Cameron tribute song on Youtube.



and if you really like it, you can get the MP3 here ^_^

http://gbadmin.garageband.com/artist/thenewkillerbombs/songs

 

[Superfreak]

I'm a Marvel guy, so I was schooled in alternate timelines / butterfly effects so this doesn't confuse me that much.

It's not about confusion IMO... it's about post modern nonsense, and producers/writers who are too lazy to try and keep the story within the bounds of the universe already created. Alternate universe in TV land IMO = excuses for not being able to write a story that is entertaining, that fits into the canon. It the lazy form of Timetravel because the writers never have to worry about the consequences of the time travel... when a problem arises, and it always does... they just have to say 'it's an alternate reality'. F-That.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

I thought this was funny...

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[Golgo-13]

These last 10 minutes have been really creepy..

 

[Robdixxo]

Oh snap, so John Henry will be battling Skynet?

 

[Golgo-13]

Who is John Henry's brother..that is the question. Next week's preview looks like there's another Terminator in the picture.

 

[Gold Samurai]

Terminator: TSCC's...............has been cancelled

http://www.fmqinc.com/terminator-cancelled/

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Thats just a rumor^^ That was posted on some blog. Like...whatever. I'll believe it when I see it on Fox's main website.

 

[Timstuff]

Oh no, a BLOGGER says we're cancelled!

Come on... Let's try to keep it real, people.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Oh no, a BLOGGER says we're cancelled!

Come on... Let's try to keep it real, people.

ha nice one Tim. You and I both catch on pretty quick on these sort of things

 

[Paradox1]

My god what an Episode two versions of Sky Net working against each other.Last time I remember Skynet on Judgement day destroyed the other one, so this isn't a new concept but it was a throw in that was never mentioned again. However it does answer a question about the whole SS Jimmy Carter.I really like where they are going now with this show.

 

[Timstuff]

Well, in Terminator 3 there was really only one Skynet. Basically, Skynet wanted to go online, so it fed a virus to all the world's computers that would make the humans desperate enough to activate it.

In TSCC though, we clearly have two AIs at work. There's Skynet, which was created by Cyberdyne and starts Judgment Day, and John Henry, who is being fostered to maturity by the Weaver T-1001, most likely on behalf of the rogue machine faction. We don't know what Catherine Weaver's true intentions are, but it seems likely that she's trying to groom John Henry to be the anti-Skynet, who will allow the independent machines to claim victory in the war-- which likewise, means Skynet wants him destroyed.

 

[Paradox1]

Well, in Terminator 3 there was really only one Skynet. Basically, Skynet wanted to go online, so it fed a virus to all the world's computers that would make the humans desperate enough to activate it.

In TSCC though, we clearly have two AIs at work. There's Skynet, which was created by Cyberdyne and starts Judgment Day, and John Henry, who is being fostered to maturity by the Weaver T-1001, most likely on behalf of the rogue machine faction. We don't know what Catherine Weaver's true intentions are, but it seems likely that she's trying to groom John Henry to be the anti-Skynet, who will allow the independent machines to claim victory in the war-- which likewise, means Skynet wants him destroyed.

In the first Terminator Movie Kyle said there was two AI a russian counterpart that Skynet nuked so that the war would be between Skynet and the humans.