World The screen test in Donner's cut

[Lazlo Panaflex]

I was just figuring this out as to why the whole Lois faking shooting blanks at Clark wouldn't work.

Did it occur to the writers that Clark might've used his X-ray vision to see that the gun had blanks?

 

[Moviefan2k4]

Not if he was suprised by her pulling a gun in the first place.

 

[mcflytrap]

After Lois jumping out the window, I think Clark probably thought she was crazy enough to use real bullets.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I was just figuring this out as to why the whole Lois faking shooting blanks at Clark wouldn't work.

Did it occur to the writers that Clark might've used his X-ray vision to see that the gun had blanks?

Why would he check to see if they were blanks? Blanks are harder to get hold of than real bullets.

 

[Road Warrior]

I was just figuring this out as to why the whole Lois faking shooting blanks at Clark wouldn't work.

Did it occur to the writers that Clark might've used his X-ray vision to see that the gun had blanks?

The man turned the Earth around and this is what you're complaining about!

 

[Sundancer]

The man turned the Earth around and this is what you're complaining about!

Heh.



I think they found it kind of dark for Lois's character.

 

[Cannibal Feast]

Plus, in the first movie he actually caught a bullet. That tells me that his super-speed applies to his vision as well. He saw the bullet come out of the gun and caught it before it struck Lois. Therefore, it stands to reason that he would see it come out now.... or see that nothing came out.

 

[captain_jimbo]

Oh GOD!

 

[matthooper]

Did it occur to the writers that Clark might've used his X-ray vision to see that the gun had blanks?

Did it occur to you that it was never used in the real movie, and there is no evidence it would have been used if Donner had been allowed to finish it.

It was only in the Donner Cut because it was pieced together with unused footage,

 

[captain_jimbo]

Exactly, someone give matthooper a medal.

 

[JTStarkiller]

I think Kevin Smith's reply to a fan's question about a goof in Clerks sums this up nicely...

Smith: I don't know what to tell you dude, but it's just a ****ing picture.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Did it occur to the writers that Clark might've used his X-ray vision to see that the gun had blanks?

Why would he do that?

Blanks are harder to get hold of than real bullets.

Lois really threw herself out of a window, why wouldn't she have real ammo?

 

[DavidTyler]

Did it occur to you that it was never used in the real movie, and there is no evidence it would have been used if Donner had been allowed to finish it.

It was only in the Donner Cut because it was pieced together with unused footage,

You need to go back and watch the movie with the commentary on. Donner says that this scene was ALWAYS intended to be a part of the finished movie.

I think the scene is great. I don't even care that it's two different screen tests peiced together or that Chris's hair keeps changing length. I just love the 'Gothca' at the end. It gives Margot's 'Lois' a lot of depth and shows how intelligent she actually is.

As to why Clark would fall for the ruse.. it was a moment of surprise for him and why would he doubt her? Like the previous poster said - he'd just seen her try to lure him out by jumping out a window.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

But in the screen test scene, Margot Kidder is playing Lois in a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STYLE to the way she ultimately did in the finished films. Look at Lois jumping into the water in Lester's Superman II - that's the Lois of the movies. The screen test scene shows a witty, fast-talking, sharp Lois, like a femme fetale from a 40's screwball comedy who keeps belittling the clumsy hero.

I just love the 'Gothca' at the end.

Isn't that a Halle Berry movie?

 

[Rob-el]

I was just figuring this out as to why the whole Lois faking shooting blanks at Clark wouldn't work.

Did it occur to the writers that Clark might've used his X-ray vision to see that the gun had blanks?

I don't know that he would have used x-ray vision but I would say he would have immediately gone into an alert mode ready to ensure no bullets ricochet (spelling?!) off of him back into her and when he saw no bullets coming out he would have known they were blanks. The "blanks" idea was used in the comis before (Superman's Girlfried Lois Lanes - late 50's early 60's) and I'm pretty sure he knew right away they were blanks.

 

[DavidTyler]

But in the screen test scene, Margot Kidder is playing Lois in a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STYLE to the way she ultimately did in the finished films. Look at Lois jumping into the water in Lester's Superman II - that's the Lois of the movies. The screen test scene shows a witty, fast-talking, sharp Lois, like a femme fetale from a 40's screwball comedy who keeps belittling the clumsy hero.

I just love the 'Gothca' at the end.

Isn't that a Halle Berry movie?

OOPS!!!

LOL!

Typo (hate when I do that)

supposed to be 'Gotcha'

And I absolutely agree about that early approach to Lois. I hate that the Lester cuts made her look stupid and unattractive.

Not to totally denegrate Lester, though, I love 'Help'.

 

[SavageBanner]

I was just figuring this out as to why the whole Lois faking shooting blanks at Clark wouldn't work.

Did it occur to the writers that Clark might've used his X-ray vision to see that the gun had blanks?

Good question. I guess we can just chalk it up to bad writing. On the other hand, there could be a more realistic explanation. For instance, maybe it never occurred to Clark to X-ray the gun; he could have just assumed the gun was loaded with real bullets. The only reason he would have examined the inner contents of the gun is if another person's life was at risk and not his. Whatever the bullets were, he would have assumed they would not hurt him.

 

[Bester]

I was just figuring this out as to why the whole Lois faking shooting blanks at Clark wouldn't work.

Did it occur to the writers that Clark might've used his X-ray vision to see that the gun had blanks?

And more to the point.....

Surely Clark would have FELT a bullet bounce off his chest (as someone pointed out in another thread, he is not numb). Therefore, no feeling of the bullet bouncing off = no bullet.

 

[DavidTyler]

And more to the point.....

Surely Clark would have FELT a bullet bounce off his chest (as someone pointed out in another thread, he is not numb). Therefore, no feeling of the bullet bouncing off = no bullet.

Never having experienced a blank being shot at me, let me pose a hypothetical.

I know that there can be powder burns from blanks if the proximatey is close enough ( I watch a lot of cop shows and I know quite a few cops ). Maybe it kicks out enough of a burst of air that Clark thought it was a bullet that hit him.

Or, maybe he was just agitated enough to not pay attention to whether something actually hit him or not.

It's such a good scene that I'd rather figure out why it does work rather than how it wouldn't.

 

[Czar Colossus]

All I know is that I still liked it better than Clark tripping over a bear skinned rug and sticking his hand into a fire!

 

[captain_jimbo]

I was just figuring this out as to why the whole Lois faking shooting blanks at Clark wouldn't work.

Did it occur to the writers that Clark might've used his X-ray vision to see that the gun had blanks?

Did it occur to you that the writers, (seeing as they wrote it) thought that Clark might not have used his X-ray vision, which he obviously didn't.

You're question makes no real sense, if anything you should be saying, did it occur to LOIS that Clark might have used his X-ray vision to see that the gun had blanks?