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Spider-Man 2 The Spider-Man 2.1 DVD Thread

^ TRUST ME PAL!!! You will KNOW when you see blue ray/HD!!!!! It's without a question worth it;).... But do wait until the PS3 comes out. No sense in buying a blueray-player when it comes with the new playstation!... HD/Blue-Ray is so absolutely sharp and clean that it almost hurt your eyes!... I remember seeing the superman returns teaser-trailer in the highest HD quality, when it first came out; because of that I could actually (in the end close-up of superman) litterally SEE that the man was wearing BLUE contacts! THAT'S how good it is!
 
lmao, wow :p

i am a man hoo ejoys his dvds in good quality, but now this will mean like.. replacing my 500+ dvds with blue ray...
i already went through this milary with the vhs to dvd...

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lol.
 
^ I know how you feel, but dont worry, that wont be neccessary. DvD all by it self is DAMN good quality!!! Blue Ray and HD is even better, but you'd better believe that I'm not gonna replace all of my current dvd's out! Blue-Ray dvd players just as much as the PLaystation3 will ALSO play normal dvd, so dont worry about it;).... I figured, that when I buy a blue-ray player I'm NOT gonna replace my dvd-collection out with that (you'd have to be crazy!)... I'll just start buying Blue-Ray films instead from THEN ON!... and of course, I'll buy a few blue-Ray films that I already have on normal dvd as it is; films such as, superman returns, batman begins, spider-man 2, LOTR's trilogy; you know all the big ones;)....

But come on, I mean, do one really care if a movie like saaay, I dont know, "Good Will Hunting" is in Blue-Ray or normal dvd (which is already DAMN good quality!)???... the reason for me mentioning that one is because I already own it on dvd, and I see NO REASON to buy a movie like THAT on Blue-Ray! A movie that has no special effects or really doesn't need to be seen in Blue-Ray. I'm just fine with my normal good dvd versions on films like that! You see where I'm going with this...

ps: If and WHEN movie's like the STAR WARS, Back to the Future and Indiana Jones trilogies come out, you know all the good old classics! If they come out on Blue-Ray (even though I have them on dvd already) you better believe that I'll buy them on Blue-Ray just with the same! They are DEFINITLY worth it;)
But one choose him or her self which films they feel the need to see in Blue-Ray (which will propably win the current war which is in progress between HD and Blue-Ray right now!)
 
I can't decide if I should get 2.1 as soon as it comes out, or wait for the trillogy set when spidy 3 comes out on dvd. I don't own any spidy dvds yet, so it would probabaly be better to wait for the trillogy. But then again. agh! What should I do?
 
I can't decide if I should get 2.1 as soon as it comes out, or wait for the trillogy set when spidy 3 comes out on dvd. I don't own any spidy dvds yet, so it would probabaly be better to wait for the trillogy. But then again. agh! What should I do?


I don't think 2.1 will be included in the trilogy set.
 
My theory on buying blu ray and HD-DVD movies is this
If its not an Epic movies like allot of good scenery and special effects
Don’t buy it
Unless its one of you’re personal favorites that you can watch over and over again
Also if its made before 95 chances are its not a True HD experience
Check here for reviews on BLU\HD movies http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/releasedates.html
I wanted to buy sleepy hallow I love that movie and the special effects in it but they did a poor job of restoring it so forget it it looks the same as my DVD

Take V-for vendetta for example, one of my fav movies but
There’s not so much action and amazing scenes in that movie except for the ending ( all though I did buy it) it would be smarter to buy movies like
Casino royale, Spiderman, pirates Caribbean, Ice AGE, Troy, Gladiator, Batman Begins King Kong, Last Samurai Etc
All newer films all will look good in HD
Say Seven comes out on HD my fav murder thriller
There’s no need for it in HD because A; it’s an old movie shot on film you don’t get nearly as good quality in it as others
and B: there’s not much visuals in the movie to experience on a clearer level
 
found this at IGN.com. it was on the right in small letters in dvd reviews. there is one image I couldn't post so click on this link and scroll down to see it. http://dvd.ign.com/articles/772/772560p2.html

March 13, 2007 - As one of the few people who did not think Spider-Man 2 surpassed its predecessor, I was not especially excited to hear news that Sam Raimi and co. were producing an even longer cut in anticipation of the forthcoming trequel. After seeing it three times in theaters, catching countless snippets on DVD and cable, and writing a review that was subsequently published in collegiate textbooks, I'm still convinced there are undeniable shortcomings - or more accurately, long-comings - that make it an occasionally laborious affair; if there's one thing the film does not need, or so it seems, it's additional action, and especially dialogue.

All of which is why Spider-Man 2.1 proves to be such a surprise: released immediately prior to Spider-Man 3's theatrical run, this extended cut is somewhat obviously intended to shore up interest in the series for the third installment, but what it may end up doing is simply reconfirming that the second movie is one of the best comic book adaptations of all time. Even with its wealth of hero-worship dialogue, extraneous plot points and self-indulgent Raimi visual cues, this eight-minute-longer cut does prove to markedly improve the film, allowing even those superfluous and superficial excesses to enjoy a breathing room they didn't have in the theatrical version.




Most of the new material, much to most fans' chagrin, is not action-oriented, but it does legitimize Spider-Man 2's epic status. Notwithstanding an extra punch line at the end of the pizza-run opening scene, the first new footage of substance appears during Peter Parker's (Tobey Maguire) birthday: Harry Osborn (James Franco) asks about ol' web-head, and a more balanced discussion emerges between the two friends. Previously Harry seemed full of obsessive rage, but here his comparison to Peter's pursuit of Uncle Ben's killer ties the two characters together in a way that might have been overlooked in the previous cut; additionally, Harry offers a note on conciliation that makes the exchange seem less expository and more conversational.

Peter's conversation with Mary Jane (Kirsten Dunst) after the party is also expanded, and overall the development of their relationship flows more smoothly, thanks to snippets of dialogue interspersed throughout the film. A scene is added between Mary Jane and her friend Louise (Vanessa Ferlito) where she discusses her engagement to John Jameson which really speaks to MJ's emotional motivations - not only to marry John, but to maintain the indecision that persists through much of the previous version. The combination of these various bits of dialogue is surprisingly effective, creating far deeper and more believable connections between the characters than were sometimes forced or overstated in the theatrical cut.




Of course, the filmmakers were smart enough to add at least a few extra moments of action, most of which take place during the clock tower fight and the runaway train sequence. There are some genuinely great shots - such as when Spidey gets hit by an oncoming train, and when the pair inadvertently destroys a law office - but a lot of this is additions to existing sequences rather than altogether new material. And unfortunately, the filmmakers did not find a way to improve the existing film's two most superfluous or disconnected scenes, the first being when Peter's neighbor brings him a piece of chocolate cake and the second being Doc Ock's unprovoked attack on Peter Parker. While outright removal of the former would improve the movie greatly, the latter simply needs better context; after all, why immediately try to kill the person who could bring him Spider-Man? The movie never sufficiently answers this and the new cut provides no new explanations.

Meanwhile, there are also a nice collection of new extras that further enhance the DVD, making it more than just a repackaging of the bonus materials available on the first set. The original DVD was released November 30, 2004 and featured the following content:


  • Commentary with director Sam Raimi, Tobey Maguire, producer Avi Arad and co-producer Grant Curtis
  • Technical commentary
  • Blooper reel
  • "Spidey Sense 2" trivia track
  • Four web-i-sodes
  • Music Video: Train "Ordinary"
  • Previews
  • 12-Part Documentary: "Making The Amazing"
  • Featurette: "Hero In Crisis"
  • Ock-Umentary: "Eight Arms To Hold You"
  • Featurette: "Interwoven: The Women Of Spider-Man"
  • Featurette: "Enter The Web"
  • Art gallery
  • Behind-the-scenes look at "Spider-Man 2"
The Spider-Man 2.1 (Extended Cut) will be released April 17, 2007, and features the following content:


  • Eight minutes of never-before-seen footage
  • Commentary by producer Laura Ziskin and screenwriter Alvin Sargent
  • Spidey Sense 2.1 trivia track with integrated pop-ups
  • Featurette: "Inside Spider-Man 2.1"
  • Featurette: "With Great Effort Comes Great Recognition"
  • Multi-angle featurette: Danny Elfman's score
  • VFX Breakdowns
  • Sneak Peek: Spider-Man 3

For audiences less familiar with Spider-Man 2 - and who are thus less likely to watch the extended cut in the first place - the "Inside Spider-Man 2.1 featurette does a great job explaining and exploring the changes and additions implemented for this new cut. While many of the comments by folks like Avi Arad essentially recount conflicts well-established in the original version, there are some specific acknowledgments the producers describe, such as the opening conversation between Harry and Peter and the clock tower fight. At 15 minutes, it actually runs longer than the sum total of the additions themselves, but it highlights enough of the major ones to feel like a legitimate extra rather than the kind of self-glorifying padding that usually fills out most Double Dip DVDs.




The "Great Recognition" featurette, meanwhile, highlights the award-winning efforts of the special effects team. Through a collection of interviews, the feature explains the process by which effects houses submit their work to the Academy, while four members of the effects team describe what they feel were their defining contributions to the design and innovation of effects work on Spider-Man 2. Beyond revealing some of the submission process, this does delve into special effects work in a way we seldom see, and it's an interesting resource for fans of Spidey as well as special effects movies.

The multi-angle featurette shows multiple frames of action at the same time as Danny Elfman discusses his creative process putting together movie music, both in general and on a sequel like Spider-Man 2. Technically speaking this multi-angle format only halfway works, but it's good if you're enraptured enough by the movie that you want to watch it only with the score playing; otherwise, it isn't necessary to watch this short featurette after you've heard Elfman's insights.




The trivia track really is kind of a technological step forward from the previous release, since it provides pop-up facts as well as actual branching sequences that show behind-the-scenes footage. These are for the most part seamless, and one suspects this will be first-gen technology on HD releases when and if they replace standard-definition DVDs; as a sort of "gateway drug" for users susceptible to the charms of more complicated DVD extras and entertainment technology, this is a great extra that might rank as one of the best of the year. And the commentary track by Ziskin and Sargent thankfully seems to offer information recorded after the movie's release, not before as so many tracks usually do.

This means they can comment on critical and fan reaction to the film, and talk about creative and commercial decisions implemented during the production. And while they still don't offer anything resembling a real justification for that damn chocolate cake scene - Sargent feebly suggests it allows the film to breathe, though that's exactly what May's hero-speech scene and Peter's "I'm back/ my back" scene serve the exact same purpose - they do at least explain the rationale for the car-throwing: it was conceived before the script was finished and the producers had to shoe-horn it into the story beats.




On the other hand, the VFX breakdowns are actually among the best special effects featurettes I've ever seen: without covering much of the ground of the "Recognition" featurette, this follows the process of designing effects shots in the film. This is largely done by showing four images on screen, each of which contributes to the final picture we see in the film. It's great to actually see this described in detail and without just passing it by in the rigmarole of a making-of overview; if you're an aspiring filmmaker this is must-see material.

Finally, the Spider-Man 3 speak peek offers precious little in the way of information about the upcoming movie, instead providing standard-fare promotional gibberish about upping stakes and introducing new characters. Personally speaking, I have major trepidations about the flip-flop making Sandman Uncle Ben's killer (no spoiler, it's been in every trailer yet released), but am otherwise excited to see the film - no thanks to this half-assed and altogether insight-free preview.




Overall, the additions do really enhance the Spider-Man 2 experience, and for my money make this the definitive version of the film. In this context, even Aunt May's interminable speech about what it means to be a hero - which I believe is still going on as I type this - seems to feel relatively natural, instead of being a screenwriter's soliloquy purge. By and large, Spider-Man 2.1 is itself a terrific addition to the growing canon of Spidey DVDs on the market. Even if you choose not to buy it, give it a rent; it's one of the first cases in memory of a Double Dip that truly allows you to have your cake - and not mind watching it, too
 
hey every1 just joined the boards...does any1 know how much sp3 footage there will be?
 
"laborious affair". Two words that sum up the spidey movies perfectly!
 
The FX cut only showed the extended backyard scene. That's it. I wish they never showed that version because some people easily get it confused with 2.1.

will the extended back yard scene be in the 2.1?
does the extended backyard count as part of the 8 new minutes?
 
hey all just got the casino royale dvd and i can confirm that the spiderman 3 trailer on there is the old one. also there is the spiderman 2.1 trailer. it looks amazing in good quality.. sometimes i couldnt tell if it was new footage or not cuz it was so well intergrated.. the new train sequences look great there was even a wicked part where they are fighting on the side of the train flying past a station as people look in disbelief.. i dont remember that being in the movie, and the new office scene looks real cool as well. anyways its the same trailer that was on you tube a while back but the better quality means you see more of whats going on. anyways seems like a good buy..
 
hey all just got the casino royale dvd and i can confirm that the spiderman 3 trailer on there is the old one. also there is the spiderman 2.1 trailer. it looks amazing in good quality.. sometimes i couldnt tell if it was new footage or not cuz it was so well intergrated.. the new train sequences look great there was even a wicked part where they are fighting on the side of the train flying past a station as people look in disbelief.. i dont remember that being in the movie, and the new office scene looks real cool as well. anyways its the same trailer that was on you tube a while back but the better quality means you see more of whats going on. anyways seems like a good buy..


I think most of us already knew it was the old trailer. The 2.1 trailer was posted in higher res a few pages back. I agree youtube quality doesn't do it justice. They remastered the whole movie with the new scenes. :woot: All the train scenes from the trailer were new.

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Can anyone confirm with news articles any link of some sort that proves or even suggests that spidey 1 and 2 on blu-ray are coming this April\may
I’ve heard that they are numerous times yet the big sites aren’t updating there release dates
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/releasedates.html
 
will the extended back yard scene be in the 2.1?
does the extended backyard count as part of the 8 new minutes?
Dude, anything NEW included in the Spider-Man 2.1 edition is OBVIOUSLY a part of the 8 added minutes of course:whatever:
 
Dude, anything NEW included in the Spider-Man 2.1 edition is OBVIOUSLY a part of the 8 added minutes of course:whatever:
It's not really new now is it?
It was shown, what, last year?
I just wasn't sure if it was a full new 8 minutes or 7 new minutes with an already shown 1 extra minute.
 
^ Let's meet in the middle and call it both then.
 

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