The Squared Circle (All things Pro Wrestling)

[Team Andino]

Marx said for me to go ahead an start the new Wrestling Thread so here it is folks. Here's to another thread of something that as much as we get annoyed we always seem to come back.

Pro Wrestling is an abusive husband an we all our the abused wives who keep coming back. Lets see how 09 ends an what the wrestling world has in store for 2010.


As per tradition here's a link to the old thread

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=327829

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Subscribed

 

[Kane52630]

subscribed

 

[NDX]

Ooh, the other thread got spanked into nothingness.

at Steiner threatening to hit a toddler.

 

[enterthemadness]

Ooh, the other thread got spanked into nothingness.

at Steiner threatening to hit a toddler.

And that thread came first...and ws by me...

MUD MATCH!

 

[Mr.Webs]

Spoons, you and me got unfinished business.

Foley is an amazing storyteller...in my opinion, one of the best. True, he was pretty much a flabby brawler with about two actual moves, but he understood how to structure and story a match like the greats. His fued with HHH in 2000 is what pushed Trips into the main event, and he did the same for Edge and Orton. He and The Rock helped each other in '99, and had maybe the best 'I Quit' match of all time at the Rumble of the same year.

But you know, different strokes for different folks. You like Batista, I like Foley. None of us are perfect.

 

[The Sage]

Speak for yourself, Webs. My fav is HBK.

Kidding. Foley is one of the best storytellers in the business and once upon a time could wrestle straight up matches. The ones he had with HBK and Sting in the 90s are classics.

 

[enterthemadness]

That mud match was....meh. Should have been in their underwear.

And who will face AJ Styles? Sharkboy, Rhoode,... Sting?

 

[Team Andino]

For the longest time Kurt Angle was my favorite an even got very scared for my former hero in 06 when it started looking like an addict who could wind up dead any day. Then Benoit (who I always loved) moved into the #1 spot until that fateful day in June of 07. Since then an again I've loved this guy just as long as Benoit an Guerrero is Chris Jericho. HBK & Foley are high on my lists an will always have a close spot in my heart but Chris Jericho has been there since day one for me.

 

[Warhammer]

To start off the new thread, here is quite possibly the best backstage segment ever and one of the best in wrestling history for sure:

 

[Dr. Evil]

Who wants to hear the Rock sing?

[YT]8G8u1ErQTO0[/YT]

 

[Eric Draven]

It just seems like we go through these wrestling threads like nothing.....

 

[The Sage]

Amid speculation that he will be retiring after WrestleMania, WWE RAW superstar Shawn Michaels spoke to MySanAntonio.com this week and implied that he might be taking another extended hiatus from WWE after WrestleMania 26 min March.

"I take four months off in the summer and just spend time with the family," Michaels said. "It's a tough line of work. Those injuries hang around longer and those injuries are tougher to deal with. When I stop, my body will have an opportunity to heal and rest. That comes along with the territory."

Michaels took four months off after his match against The Undertaker at WrestleMania 25 earlier this year and now that he's back still only works a limited schedule.

"I actually don't have to take on the schedule that the other guys have to take on," Michaels said. "I wrestle more on a part-time basis."

http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/262512572.php

 

[Dr. Evil]

It just seems like we go through these wrestling threads like nothing.....

Don't worry, we'll be at post #1,000 by Monday.

 

[NDX]

It just seems like we go through these wrestling threads like nothing.....

It's wonderful, isn't it?

 

[Marx]

So what's this I hear about a possible confirmation of the Rock hosting RAW?

 

[Mr.Webs]

Speak for yourself, Webs. My fav is HBK.

Kidding. Foley is one of the best storytellers in the business and once upon a time could wrestle straight up matches. The ones he had with HBK and Sting in the 90s are classics.

Hey, don't make me pick between HBK and Foley brother. Well...it WOULD'VE been a hard choice if Foley had stayed with the 'E. But now...'over there'....

And agreed. One of my favorite matches is Mankind/Michaels at Mind Games in '96. Not a hardcore match by any standard, just a regular wrestling match. And my Favorite Flabby Foley was able to keep up the Heart Break Kid. Always loved that.

 

[Team Andino]

It just seems like we go through these wrestling threads like nothing.....

Well with a show every Monday, tuessday, Thursday, Friday, every 3 Sundays, as well as spoilers, firings, deaths there gets alot to talk about. A thousand posts comes in goes in no time

So what's this I hear about a possible confirmation of the Rock hosting RAW?

I might of jumped the gun on this one. For whatever reason I thought it had been confirmed but I'm probably wrong

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Wow, I was shocked when I saw the old thread was locked. I was thinking maybe a big debate got out of hand with name calling and everything.

Never got a chance to weigh in on the Umaga situation. Another loss to the wrestling world and I remember at first I hated Umaga. I thought he was just another hoss that Vince wanted to push to the moon.

Once I got to watching him more often and seeing how he moved in the ring, how he utilized his character, and how well he portrayed it I grew to like him more and more. One of the few big men since Bam Bam Bigelow and Vader who were extremely agile, athletic, and quick for their size.

Umaga will definitely be missed and I would've loved to have seen his return to the WWE or possibly TNA.

 

[DX]

No diva pics yet? Shameful.

For the longest time Kurt Angle was my favorite an even got very scared for my former hero in 06 when it started looking like an addict who could wind up dead any day. Then Benoit (who I always loved) moved into the #1 spot until that fateful day in June of 07. Since then an again I've loved this guy just as long as Benoit an Guerrero is Chris Jericho. HBK & Foley are high on my lists an will always have a close spot in my heart but Chris Jericho has been there since day one for me.

The guy that got me into wrestling was The Rock, so he's quite high in my list. I used to be a big HHH but then got bored of him and his burials. HBK is awesome, but if I had to pick an all time fav, it would have to be Undertaker. I remember seeing him on TV as a kid and he had that presence that made me think "Wow...I don't wanna mess with HIM." I got into him because I thought not only was this guy a great worker for a guy his size, but he works his gimmick really well. And when he was the American Badass, he showed he could also cut a damn good promo when given the chance. Not to mention, he's been loyal to WWE for 19 years now.

So...yeah.

 

[Darkness Falls]

^^ agreed takers american badass gimmick was Badass

 

[NDX]

For those interested, a recap of OWW's Tribute to Eddie "Umaga" Fatu, and links to downloadable versions.

Courtesy of http://live.onlineworldofwrestling.com

Download this special 2 hour episode from the following links
iTunes Podcast: http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/
ClickWrestle: http://www.clickwrestle.com/podcasts/owwradio



OPENING
The show opens on somber note, with the playing of a traditional Samoan Hymn "Samoana", followed by a 10-bell salute. Nick then relays the unfortunate news of the passing of Eddie "Umaga" Fatu, and follows with voicemails from fans and various wrestling personalities paying tribute to the late grappler.

Commercial

The show returns from commercial led in by Michael Jackson’s “Will You Be There”. Nick gives a brief biography on career of Eddie Fatu followed by twitter comments from peers in the wrestling profession Jim Ross, Howard Finkel, Paul Heyman, Jeremy Borash, Tara, Matt Morgan, Alison Danger, Maryse, TNA Online, Wrestlers Rescue, Chris Jericho, Lilian Garcia, Gregory Helms, Christopher Daniels, Shannon Moore, Dragon Gate USA, Samoa Joe, Ring of Honor, Tyler Reks, Michelle McCool, Eric Bischoff, John Layfield, Maria, Dixie Carter, Matt Hardy, Taz, and wwe.com

Commercial

The show returns from commercial led in by Christian artist Yolanda Adam’s Fragile Heart.
Nick reads tributes sent in to the OWW Radio email by fans and members of the wrestling community which included; Ben Kerin of wrestling-radio.com, Tim Winters, Dr. Mike Lano; Wrestling Journalist, Marcus Mack finishing with an email from Mara Fatu; the niece of Eddie Fatu.

Note: Unfortunately we were not able to acknowledge a tribute sent in by HWA Promoter, wrestling trainer Les Thatcher as we were unable to contact Mr. Thatcher in time before going to air, below is a copy of Mr. Thatcher’s email.

“Eddie and Mattie were the most popular tag team ever on my roster, and it is such a tragic thing for someone so talented and with yet so much more to accomplish had to be taken so very young. I don't believe I have ever worked with an athlete so light on their feet while being so big, Eki's agility was outstanding.

Most Sincerely
Les Thatcher”

Commercial

The show returns led in by Christian group The Katina’s The Other Side. Nick welcomes this weeks, guests, SLAM! Wrestlings, Kenai Andrews and Dr. David Reiss.

• Nick, Kenai and Dave discuss how fast the news of Fatu's passing spread, representing the effect he had on people
• They discuss the bond between wrestlers and their fans
• They discuss the psychical toll pro wrestling takes on the bodies of the competitors day in and day out.
• Kenai discusses the support system for wrestlers, Kanai briefly mentions the support system that Rob Van Dam and his wife Sonya had after Sonya was diagnosed with colon cancer
• Dave reiterates the importance of the support system between wrestlers and how so many are isolated
• They discuss the importance of having a union for wrestlers in the United States

Commercial

OWW Radio returns from commercial led in by Phil Collins’ Dance Into the Light. Nick discusses the influence of Samoan wrestlers and their culture in pro wrestling.
(Notes)

• The basis of the Samoan community and its culture centers on God and the importance of family. In pacific islands of Samoa, Tonga, The Cook Islands, Fiji, extended families live side by side. Cousins are raised up together like siblings, and from a very young age, Christian based teachings such as respect for one’s elders and for others is taught and expected of every child. Most importantly the Biblical scripture of Jesus Christ commanding us to “love one another as he loves us” is also instilled. The community is encouraged to be selfless and giving to everyone whether it may be people they know or complete strangers even though those living in the islands have very little over their own. This way of life in the Samoan culture is called “Fa’aSamoa”.
• When the Tsunami swept through American and Western Samoa devastating the islands in September of this year, the New Zealand media covered stories told by NZ tourists on holiday in Samoa who escaped and survived because they were saved by locals who guided them to safety, they were clothed, fed and sheltered by many of the locals.
• Fa’aSamoa isn’t just restricted in the Samoan Islands, throughout the past 6 decades Samoan individuals and Samoan families have migrated and re-established communities all over the world especially in western areas such as New Zealand, Australia and the United States. Many of these families brought and still continue to bring with them the Fa'aSamoa values and for decades Fa'aSamoa has been taught and inherited down to generations and generations of family members who are born and raised in these western societies
• In places such as New Zealand where one of its major cities Auckland holds the largest population of Pacific Island people in the world, the culture and values have become a part of New Zealand life enriching the New Zealand culture
• The Anoa’i family have been pillars in the pro wrestling community for many years.
• Over the last 30 plus years Afa & Sika have worked hard to establish a wrestling empire for their families and have since become respected members of the wrestling community. Afa & Sika are responsible not only for the training of his own children Afa’s sons Samu and Manu and Sika’s son Matthew (Rosey) but the children of their siblings, their brother’s son Rodney “Yokozuna” Anoa’i, and their sister Vera’s 3 sons, Sam “The Tonga Kid” Fatu, Solafatu “Rikishi” Fatu and the man who we are paying tribute to today Edward “Umaga” Fatu. The Wild Samoan Training school list of graduates extends further to the who’s who of the wrestling profession; The Undertaker, Batista, Michael PS Hayes, the school has also contributed in the extensive trainings of Bam Bam Bigelow, Hulk Hogan and CM Punk, and it was Afa Anoa’i whom Mickey Rourke personally approached to train him for his role in the movie The Wrestler.
• The Anoa’i Family have a unique and illustrious legacy in this sport, every member of this family was and is a tough and gifted athlete who earned the accolade of WWF World Champion like Yokozuna or WWF Tag Team Champions like the Wild Samoans and the Headshrinkers, or Intercontinental Champion like Rikishi or Umaga.
• This great family has given so much to this profession, but one contribution from this family that has helped enriched the industry immensely is the gift of Fa’aSamoa.
• Many whom have worked with the Anoa’i Family always speak fondly of the family atmosphere and those who have trained under the Anoa’i Family have mentioned numerous of times about being taken in as members of the family by the Anoa’i clan – an act of Fa’aSamoa that is practiced so often by many Samoans around the world.
• When news of Eddie Fatu's death was confirmed, many of Umaga's colleagues used their twitter and facebook accounts to share their thoughts on the passing of their friend. The word that was used so commonly by the wrestlers was the word “Uso” (or Uce for short). Uso is Samoan translation for brother. To many Samoans, the word Uso is not taken or used so lightly in the same sense as we would call each other brother or bro. Among many Samoans, uso is used sincerely, affectionately and in the highest regards and it’s quite common for Samoans to use the word towards guys who aren’t of the same race.
• Nick went on to read twitter and facebook comments from wrestlers paying tribute to Eddie Fatu who used the word Uso to show the magnitude behind the meaning of the word
• The word Uso is used profoundly in these comments, and obviously these comments are a testament to the impact that Umaga had in their lives and how much Fa’aSamoa has enriched the westernized wrestling profession.

Commercial

OWW Radio returns from commercial led in by Eddie Fatu’s 3 Minute Warning Theme that he and Matty Anoa’i used in the WWE when they tagging together.

• Nick, Kenai and Dave discuss the Fa’aSamoa support system within the wrestling industry and the use of the word Uso
• They discuss the Anoa’i family presence in the wrestling industry
• They discuss Chris Jericho’s tribute to Eddie Fatu
• Nick, Kenai and Dave discuss late breaking reports that Fatu was on his way back to WWE, and the role he may have played upon his return
• They discuss Eddie Fatu’s reliable work ethic, the ability he possessed to put over major babyfaces while still being able to maintain his credibility as a top draw
• They discuss the trust that Vince McMahon and Hulk Hogan had in Eddie Fatu’s work ethic

Commercial

OWW Radio returns from commercial led in by The Umaga entrance theme. Nick, Kenai and Dave analyze the psychology behind the Umaga character, his look, his move set, his signature moves, the fusing of aerial and power moves, and the logic behind his Samoan Spike finisher.

Commercial

OWW Radio returns from commercial led in by a Samoan dance song titled 'Tama Samoa'

• Nick explains that the songs played throughout the show were a representative of Eddie Fatu. The 2 songs played featuring Yolanda Adams and The Katinas were selected by Eddie Fatu’s niece Mara Fatu Mara explained to the producers that the Yolanda Adams song was a personal favourite of Eddie Fatu’s and the Katinas song was played at Eddie, Rikishi and The Tonga Kid’s mother’s funeral in 2008
• Nick, Kenai and Dave re-emphasize the Fa’aSamoa culture and support system, how it has enriched the wrestling profession
• Nick runs down Eddie Fatu’s title history

CLOSING
The show ends with a touching audio montage which featuring highlights from Eddie “Umaga” Fatu’s career, the highlights are supported by traditional Samoan hymn.



Note: On behalf of the OWW Radio Production team, we'd like to give a special thanks to following people and websites, first of all our guests Kenai Andrews from Slam Wrestling and Dr. David Reiss. Thank you to the Wrestling Observer for plugging this show, thank you Ben Kerin director of http://www.wrestling-radio.com for going out of your way to help promote this week's special. Thanks to Mara Fatu for your contributions, it was an honour to have a representative from the Fatu Family involved with the production of this tribute. Thank to all the websites who got behind the show and helped promote it, and thank you to the many emails and voice mails sent in by wrestling fans and members of the wrestling community.

OWW Radio takes no credit for the success of this show, this was a testament to how much Eddie "Umaga" Fatu was loved by his peers and fans.

Thank you to the 2500 plus listeners who tuned into listen to this tribute show from OnlineWorldofWrestling.com, OWW Genesis and Wild Talk Radio.


Rest In Peace Edward "Umaga Fatu
Ia manuia lau malaga


OWW Radio Production Team





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[Darkness Falls]

^^ great tribute NDX

 

[Franklin Richards]

In honor of the new thread, I will post my era of wrestling. And it all revolved around...

The Von Erichs.


And don't forget to get this DVD for the story of WCCW.

I've got to travel to the Sportatorium before they rip that thing down.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Double.


So here's a shot of the heir to the Von Erich throne.

Lacey Von Erich

Learned the Iron Claw from Granpa Fritz.