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And here I was thinking that the only part I understood was SFAS = Superman For All Seasons. :rolleyes: :D

Puzzles make my head hurt.
 
avidreader said:
And here I was thinking that the only part I understood was SFAS = Superman For All Seasons. :rolleyes: :D
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and that would be - so false, almost silly..!
 
avidreader said:
Okay, could someone please interpret this interpretation. :rolleyes:

Please. :D
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Hope this helps if someone hasnt already PM'd you. Pat please tell me if I'm wrong.

[quoate=AgentPat]
Originally Posted by AgentPat
Ah Jack, yes indeedy. He loves to clang that spoon, doesn't he?

Here's my stab at the metaphors. Feel free to do your own analysis (or not LOL). This is just all in fun. For now...

was that real... or just a dream? (I think Warners shares something in common with Dallas - both of which are particularly good at undoing things when and if necessary.)
"A change of heart...a change of season"...? (Jeph Loeb wrote a great comic that maybe some folks here have read? Superman for all Seasons? Anybody? Buehler? SV is kinda based on that, y'know?)
Ah well... Hope springs eternal... (our axiom, doncha know? SFAS also starts with Spring.)
Or at least...in a funny shaped crystal... (Do you folks *really* need a decoder ring for that part?)

Jack, you've outdone yourself. Bravo. I do love these puzzles. :up: :D[/quote]

Dallas was a primetime soap in the 80's. During a season or more there was a big rewind. I dont remember the specifics but it basically undid a ton of major plot lines.

The only one I can think of that was bigger than theirs was the Bob Newhart show. Basically Bob had two shows one in the 70s where he played a shrink and one in the 80s where he was an Inn Keeper. In the last ep of the 80's show Bob wakes up from a dream and find himself asleep next to his wife from the 70's show. Basically this implied that the whole show in the 80's was a dream. It was brilliant.

So applying this to SV. At somepoint someone is going to wake up from a dream and certain events will not have happened.

Pat got the SFAS ref. with spring that should be somewhat self explanatory. But in the Spring SFAS if I remember correctly Clark is still in HS. I have to go dig out my copy and re-read it to make some more assumptions.

The crystal is a ref to the rewind that already occured
 
NHawk19 said:
Hope this helps if someone hasnt already PM'd you. Pat please tell me if I'm wrong.



Dallas was a primetime soap in the 80's. During a season or more there was a big rewind. I dont remember the specifics but it basically undid a ton of major plot lines

The only one I can think of that was bigger than theirs was the Bob Newhart show. Basically Bob had two shows one in the 70s where he played a shrink and one in the 80s where he was an Inn Keeper. In the last ep of the 80's show Bob wakes up from a dream and find himself asleep next to his wife from the 70's show. Basically this implied that the whole show in the 80's was a dream. It was brilliant

So applying this to SV. At somepoint someone is going to wake up from a dream and certain events will not have happened.

Pat got the SFAS ref. with spring that should be somewhat self explanatory. But in the Spring SFAS if I remember correctly Clark is still in HS. I have to go dig out my copy and re-read it to make some more assumptions.

The crystal is a ref to the rewind that already occured.
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Thanks NHawk. :up: :)

I remember the dream in Dallas. There was also the dream sequence in Married With Children when Al dreamed that Peggy had been pregnant all season, but that stemmed from real life tragedy. :(

So this rewind thing in Smallville, are we assuming that its already happened with the episode Reckoning or is there more to come. :confused:

So applying this to SV. At somepoint someone is going to wake up from a dream and certain events will not have happened.
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This could be the episode Void. The Ezra Small Prophecies predict more time travel, and since this episode has Mr. and Mrs. Lang and Jonathan Kent in it.

Did I just answer my own question?

I told you puzzles make my head hurt. :)
 
avidreader said:
Thanks NHawk. :up: :)

I remember the dream in Dallas. There was also the dream sequence in Married With Children when Al dreamed that Peggy had been pregnant all season, but that stemmed from real life tragedy. :(

So this rewind thing in Smallville, are we assuming that its already happened with the episode Reckoning or is there more to come. :confused:



This could be the episode Void. The Ezra Small Prophecies predict more time travel, and since this episode has Mr. and Mrs. Lang and Jonathan Kent in it.

Did I just answer my own question?

I told you puzzles make my head hurt. :)
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Uh, Av & everyone ('cept Jack and Pat)

I think Jack and Pat are speaking of a slightly bigger picture (pun intended).

If I had to sum up their comments in 6 words or less it would be...

Nothing is ever set in stone.






ummm...okay now...I feel a singalong in my heart
c'mon everybody; sing along to this old gospel tune...

Oh, I love to (re)tell the story...
How Bale is Batman, not Clooney

Are we going to (re)tell the story?
Well, in Good time.

oooooo...I'll never make American Idol ;)

:D
 
How long was that other guy's contract for, anyway? :)
I get it that Jack and Pat are talking about the bigger picture.
And I still think that a change of heart (does a studio have a heart)?
and a change of season, don't necessarily mean SFAS-the book.
There could always be something waiting in the wings that we've talked about before.
One can always hope.
Erg. Sigh. It's this kind of thing that brings me out of lurk mode.
I don't know why....
 
Yes it's all about the bigger picture, indeedy...

Isn't that almost all I talk about...?

Squat and Ardy are on it...

Pat... I'm losing faith! :p
(not that you aren't...in the ballpark)


I'll just leave you with this:

You guys like American Idol...?

(Yes, truth is sometimes stranger than fiction...)


"Pull da strings! Pull da strings!!"

(...JackMercy doing Martin Landau doing Bela Lugosi in Ed Wood...)

;)
 
Cripes, Jack... that doesn't really help at all.

*sigh*

Or does it...

Is someone getting voted off the stage, Jack? Why the AI reference?
 
Squats, Ardi, you're both obviously on to something, or so Jack says. My mind is thinking big picture. But could my thoughts be real. Seems to good to be true.

I just dont know. :confused:
 
Heh. Y'know, I thought the "change of heart, change of season" bit was rather blatant. I wasn't trying to infer a SFAS film, or anything along those lines. That's what SV is, after all. And I know the big picture to which Jack refers. But spelling it out word for word only invites ridicule [Pat waves to Pickle], so playing around with words is just a fun way to broach the subject w/o ringing the dinner bell for those who enjoy mocking us deluded SV fans.

But all this beating around the bush is giving me a headache, so here's a few points to mull...

  1. Production on SR was rumored to start in Vancouver and move to Oz after its first month or so of principle, which IIRC started in March of '05. Coincidentally, SV wrapped production of its 4th season near the end of April. After the main casting announcement for SR was made in October of '04, Vancouver was dropped as a start location and everything was moved to Oz.
  2. Three days ago, Variety published an article about Warners' plans for sequels to BB and SR. While Batman makes "sense" at this time (they have a B.O. history and profits from home video to allay any fears of overt financial risk), planning a sequel to SR seems a bit premature right now to me. But the article also points out that director's contracts are not sealed, actor's contracts are still just options, and Singer is doing Logan's Run next in Vancouver. If shooting a sequel to SR in Vancouver is just a matter of convenience coming out of Logan's Run, then why not shoot Logan's Run in Australia too? It's all rather strange, and oddly deja vu.
  3. SV is finishing up one of its most successful seasons yet and has enjoyed a resurgence of popularity without the help of the film. The SV writers have outlined a cliffhanger finale with plans to go full tilt into a 6th season on CW come September. This will require Warners to pick up the cast's contract options for another two years (if they haven't already done so) and will have the bonus effect of keeping the cast on a leash for that period of time. Warners will still produce the show and own the rights, regardless of the network that airs it.
  4. Superman is w/o a doubt, one of Warner's most important and lucrative franchises. If SR were to substantially under perform, Warners would not give up on it. Many people have suggested Warners would shelve the project for years before trying again. Pah! Guess again. ;)
  5. A studio the size of Warner Bros. *always* has a Plan B. And C. And D. And... well, you get the picture. There's more than two ways to skin a bat... errr... cat, so if making a few changes with actors for a sequel, or restarting the franchise completely is deemed necessary to get back on track, they'll do it in a cocaine heartbeat. And they'll have everything set in place to take that route should it be required. If such action is not required, moving forward with the first plan will still be possible. Basically, it's a matter of forecasting and logistics, and knowing what should be in place if the proverbial poop were to hit the fan. They want things to always be a win-win situation no matter what.
  6. The Boy Scout's motto is "Be Prepared." (It's also Batman's.) :p
  7. As far as I know, Alan Horn is still President and COO of Warner Bros...

Kang, kang. Dinner bell has been rung. Have at it folks. :D


"I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody."
- Bill Cosby

"Nobody knows anything (in Hollywood)."
- William Goldman, Adventures in the Screen Trade. (New York: Warner Books, 1983)

"Therapy is expensive. Popping bubble wrap is cheap. You choose."
- AgentPat
 
boyscouT said:
dear god Pat... i can't read all that on a weekend.
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Should I have prefaced it with my, "Put a pot of coffee on first" line? ;)
 
AgentPat said:
...And I know the big picture to which Jack refers. But spelling it out word for word only invites ridicule [Pat waves to Pickle], so playing around with words is just a fun way to broach the subject w/o ringing the dinner bell for those who enjoy mocking us deluded SV fans.

But all this beating around the bush is giving me a headache, so here's a few points to mull...

(Squatlow: I'll paraphrase Pat here so as to not waste bandwidth...
'And behold, Pat thus spake with a voice as ringing silver, and with great deliberation, so all may understand, yea even those who understandeth not the word.')
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Uh, now, Pat...
you know we're only allowed to speak Crypto-nian here.
:D
 
Can we all get back to talking about cheese, pizza, and chicken wings?
That used to be so FUN!!!!
 
Anyone know where the Arrival, Splinter and Solitude threads have gone?
 
AgentPat said:
Should I have prefaced it with my, "Put a pot of coffee on first" line? ;)
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Probably

Just so I'm clear:

Jack wasnt discussing the show he was discussing the \S/ Universe.

That said you're discussing something that might be found in say a muscles wildfire rumor perhaps?

Understanding subtilties was never one of my strong suits. Just ask my gf :(
 
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