The Thing vs Colossus

[Kirk Langstrom]

From what i remember as well as some reading up i just did on both characters. The Thing is probably a fair bit stronger In Wikipedia it says he has an unknown limit of well over 100 tonnes. For Collosus it says 100+ but doesnt emphasize anything. This to me implies that the thing is stronger and just judging by encounters i remember between these guys and various enemies I'd guess that the Thing is roughly 50% stronger.

Collosus is however considerably more durable and has considerably greater endurance (able to maintain peak level exertion for several days before he gets tired whereas the thing can go for roughly a day) So i think Collosus would win by wearing Ben down.

Ben would KO Colossus LONG before he got wore down, imo.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Something on the order of Ben's homicidal attack on Reed in FF#42, after he'd been brainwashed by the Wizard. Scared the crap outta me when I was a kid.

Me too! Lol, those Kirby shots of Ben grinning evilly as he went after Reed used to freak me out!

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I kinda wish they'd do this up right. (I mean,The whole Thing vs Hulk bit got old a loooong time ago.)

I thought so as well, until i read their most recent encounter, which quite frankly was one of the most intense fights they've had in YEARS, imo.

 

[Cadetak4712]

Well all emotional reasons of the fight (like ones enraged ones not etc.) aside it is safe to say Collossus is more durable. They are both equally exsperienced (for the most part). So it comes to who is stronger. Ben would have to be at least 25% stronger than Collossuss to get past his endurance( Collosuss doesnt get scratched or dented, Ben gets chunks taken out by the hulk.) But if i had to pick a winner I would pick The Thing just on fact that he could hold his own against the Hulk, and if he can handle the hulk he can definetly handle Colossus (even thos Collosuus wasn't given a chance to fight the Hulk)

Wait...do any of these two get prep time?

 

[Vanguard07]

Ugh prep time. I hate that argument so much.

Collossus has come along way since his early days. I think he could hold his own against the Hulk. I'd like to see him make the effort at least.

 

[32CAGE]

The Thing. He is the more experienced fighter.

 

[Class100strngth]

Exactly the same experience? i think not , ben grimm has been trained in different forms of combat piotr is just a regul;ar guy with powers no great knowledge of fighting styles. Prep time the thing , without prep time the thing , colossus is very overrated in his strength and his defence. Although colossus' armor can withstand much more than the thing can but , it wouldnt last long enough for colossus to save himself . The thing would defeat him

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Colossus' armor overrated? I think not; let's not forget Magneto fortified it a while back too. His defense overrated? The man has jumped out of planes 'chuteless before.

 

[Fantasyartist]

I think the Thing would win- Colossus is nowhere as experienced as he is, although he may have the advantage in sheer strength.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

The Thing can lift about 85 tons to Colossus' 100+. Colossus is also more durable and agile. Colossus is a very good hand to hand combatant. His training from Cyclops and Wolverine is probably better than the Thing. The Thing has very little chance.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I always remember Ben being able to lift a smidget more than Petey.

 

[Vanguard07]

Thats probably cause you're thinking of Collossus in the early days when he was still a teenager.
He's an adult now. And significantly stronger.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Yes as an adult Peter is a lot stronger than he was in the beginning. His durability seems to be to an unknown degree reinforceable by his will power. There have been several instances where he resisted damage by sheer force of will. He also has a considerable advantage in reach. In armored form he is 7'5" towering over even the Hulk.

 

[Vanguard07]

I think that depends on which version of the hulk you're talking about. His height varies a fair bit after all. Hell he's been as tall as 10 feet.

 

[Malus]

Yes as an adult Peter is a lot stronger than he was in the beginning. His durability seems to be to an unknown degree reinforceable by his will power. There have been several instances where he resisted damage by sheer force of will. He also has a considerable advantage in reach. In armored form he is 7'5" towering over even the Hulk.

Come on. This is like rock/paper/scissors.
Ben has never really beaten the Hulk; he basically tries to not get killed while attempting to get in some good shots.
As for "force of will," no Marvel character has more of that than Ben Grimm. That's why he's been able to hold his own against the considerably more powerful Hulk so many times over the years.
That never-say-die mindset, along with his experience (more years of super-powered fighting experience than any other marvel character except the other three members of the FF) gives him the edge over Colossus.
An enraged Hulk, though, could rip Petey Rasputin in half.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Come on. This is like rock/paper/scissors.
Ben has never really beaten the Hulk; he basically tries to not get killed while attempting to get in some good shots.
As for "force of will," no Marvel character has more of that than Ben Grimm. That's why he's been able to hold his own against the considerably more powerful Hulk so many times over the years.
That never-say-die mindset, along with his experience (more years of super-powered fighting experience than any other marvel character except the other three members of the FF) gives him the edge over Colossus.
An enraged Hulk, though, could rip Petey Rasputin in half.

A Hulk vs Colossus fight would be interesting. If well thought out and written in an unbiased way I would have to give the fight to Colossus. Of all the top level muscle he is the only one to have truly comprehensive martial arts training other than Gamora.

 

[Malus]

A Hulk vs Colossus fight would be interesting. If well thought out and written in an unbiased way I would have to give the fight to Colossus. Of all the top level muscle he is the only one to have truly comprehensive martial arts training other than Gamora.

Martial arts training doesn't mean much when your opponent is the strongest creature on the earth- a creature that actually grows stronger as he gets angrier. And that Russian accent is just bound to get on Hulk's nerves.
Sorry, but the only Marvel character capable of beating the Hulk in hand-to-hand cobat is probably Thor. The Invisible Woman can pretty much take down anyone (including those two) by materializing an expanding force bubble inside their skulls, but that's not exactly hand to hand.
Pete is a likeable character (I was really glad to see him getting a decent amount of screen time in X3) but ask any Marvel editor and they'll tell you that Marvel's mightiest characters by far are Hulk and Thor.
I'd love to see the ever-lovin' blue-eyed Thing take down the Hulk too, but it just ain't in the cards.
Hulk smash. Everybody and everything.

 

[Mad Bull]

Martial arts training doesn't mean much when your opponent is the strongest creature on the earth- a creature that actually grows stronger as he gets angrier. And that Russian accent is just bound to get on Hulk's nerves.
Sorry, but the only Marvel character capable of beating the Hulk in hand-to-hand cobat is probably Thor. The Invisible Woman can pretty much take down anyone (including those two) by materializing an expanding force bubble inside their skulls, but that's not exactly hand to hand.
Pete is a likeable character (I was really glad to see him getting a decent amount of screen time in X3) but ask any Marvel editor and they'll tell you that Marvel's mightiest characters by far are Hulk and Thor.
I'd love to see the ever-lovin' blue-eyed Thing take down the Hulk too, but it just ain't in the cards.
Hulk smash. Everybody and everything.

That's true. Colossus would not stand much of a chance. Hulk even smacks Thor around when he's really serious. As far as strength and power, I think the Hulk would have to look to someone like Thanos for some real competition.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Let's not forget that Colossus got taken out early by The Champion when Ben went more rounds than anyone in the Galaxy. So I don't buy this, "Pete is more durable" argument.

Ben may not look as pretty as Peter after a scrape. But Ben walks away from it. Or in the Champion's case...

Crawled.

 

[Vanguard07]

again Peter was just a teenager then. He's a lot older, stronger, more experienced, more skilled and more durable now that he's a full grown man.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

A Hulk vs Colossus fight would be interesting. If well thought out and written in an unbiased way I would have to give the fight to Colossus. Of all the top level muscle he is the only one to have truly comprehensive martial arts training other than Gamora.

Colossus has no chance of beating The Hulk.

Hulk once had over 70% of his body mass blasted away by The U-Foes' Vector, and regenerated it all in a matter of seconds....he also increases in strength the longer he fights, and is virtually tireless, which is why Ben can't beat him.

And Neither can Colossus.

 

[Vanguard07]

Oh i absolutely agree. Collossus probably cant beat Hulk. But I do have faith that he could make a pretty good showing. Also, depending on the version of the hulk Pete could maybe outsmart him. Do something to give himself the edge. He couldnt beat him in a fight but maybe he could hold his own long enough to manage to bring him down some other way.

 

[Mad Bull]

Oh i absolutely agree. Collossus probably cant beat Hulk. But I do have faith that he could make a pretty good showing. Also, depending on the version of the hulk Pete could maybe outsmart him. Do something to give himself the edge. He couldnt beat him in a fight but maybe he could hold his own long enough to manage to bring him down some other way.

I dunno. I Piotr known for being that clever? I know in the past it's been stated that, although the Savage Hulk is somewhat childish in his intelligence, he DOES have an undeniable cunning in battle. It's almost essential, when you think about it. Everyone would be outsmarting him all the time if that weren't the case.

 

[Langoth]

I personally think the Thing would win.

This is not saying Colossus is weak, but Thing is stronger, more experiences, and has a good deal of reflexes and agility. Colossus might be a tad bit more agile, but he's weaker, and less experienced.

So, Thing takes it.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Sorry, but Colossus is bigger,stronger, faster, more agile, tougher,and has better formal training in martial arts. while Ben has been around longer the hectic lifestyle of the X- men may give Peter the edge in experiance as well. He has fought in outer space several times against several different opponents,fought demons in limbo, and been through Dante's hell. He also did better against Gladiator than Ben did, and that was when Peter was younger and weaker.