The thunder- thunder- THUNDERCATS HOOOOOO!-thread

[Crockett]

Sometime later this year, no release date has set so far. The new Snarf looks good, too bad he won't talk, I was never irritated by him.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

still a little to anime toonish(teen titans/ben 10) for my taste but the designs are interesting would love to see them done by jim lee or someone not so hyer anime inspired

i'll maybe pick up the 6/8 inch line depends on what it looks like

 

[Gold Samurai]

Reposting

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/01/27/thundercats-tv-series-image-interview/

MTV: Everyone's asking about the anime vibe in the image. Will the series have an anime feel to it? Does the anime vibe extend beyond the character designs?

SPAULDING: [It will extend to] the visual storytelling as well. The original show was done in Japan, and many people probably don't know that. A lot of the artists went on to be in Studio Ghibli, and worked on [Hayao] Miyazaki's first film. So "ThunderCats" does have a footprint in Japanese animation. We're kind of going back and honoring that in the new series. I was always a huge fan of the original show and I love the Japanese animation and what they can do, so we're really going back to the roots.

So thundercats has some of it's root's in anime. The anime influence just wasn't as prevalent as it is now.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

i'd love to know where he gets his facts 99% of fans know it was animated in japan. still doesn't stop the fact that there is decent japanese based animation design and then there is the terrible big eyed badly proportioned body style we constantly seem to get from bandi

 

[Panthro]

Snarf never bothered me that much. I thought Wily Kit and Kat were annoying at times but I've seen worse characters.

Here's what bothers me when fans get all nostalgic and criticize those elements. They act like the rest of the show was absolutely golden and high class five star academy award worthy writing if not for this thing or that thing be it Snarf, Wily Kit/Kat, Orko, whatever. There were plenty of other silly and odd elements and things that date the show besides those things.

Okay you make a good point there (Orko owns Snarf though), and truth be told a lot of 80s cartoon had goofy elements that make one wince looking at them now. I think we're all hoping the new series will avoid said goofy elements.

Snarf's new design looks okay I guess. Wonder how long before we see the twins.

 

[Denny67]

i'd love to know where he gets his facts 99% of fans know it was animated in japan. still doesn't stop the fact that there is decent japanese based animation design and then there is the terrible big eyed badly proportioned body style we constantly seem to get from bandi

Agreed 100%!

I can deal with and enjoy:

This style I am sick of being applied to remake and new cartoons:

To me this new Thundercats looks a lot more like the second example than the fist.

 

[TheVileOne]

Yeah sorry. The new designs don't look like Pokemon at all.

I mean Tygra even has a pistol. Panthro's been made into a big powerhouse dude. He's got mutton chops like Wolverine.

If you wanted something like FOTN or Ninja Scroll. C'mon. Have you even watched the original Thundercats?

The original Thundercats series was pretty sanitized and bland at times. Wasn't guys getting chopped up like in Ninja Scroll. And in Japanese Gatchaman, people died left and right and got messed up.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

Yeah sorry. The new designs don't look like Pokemon at all.

I mean Tygra even has a pistol. Panthro's been made into a big powerhouse dude. He's got mutton chops like Wolverine.

If you wanted something like FOTN or Ninja Scroll. C'mon. Have you even watched the original Thundercats?

The original Thundercats series was pretty sanitized and bland at times. Wasn't guys getting chopped up like in Ninja Scroll. And in Japanese Gatchaman, people died left and right and got messed up.

while i agree with you vile he choose the wrong examples but you can see my point, look at the last motu( know you're a fan) it had the anime look and appeal without the wide eye look

teen titans seem to be the best example of this style.

 

[TheVileOne]

I doubt it will have the same mechanics as the Teen Titans/Go! series.

Snarf won't even talk anymore.

 

[Panthro]

I just hope they don't do the "Lion-O warp aged from child to man" plot again, that always struck me as pretty wonky.

 

[TheVileOne]

He was a kid though. His stasis chamber malfunctioned and caused him to age while they were drifting in space.

Though yes for a change of pace I would rather if he was just basically what ever his age was instead of the mind of a kid in a man's body.

I'm guessing they are basically just making him a mid teenager in this series like 15-16 similar to the leads in Shounen type of shows.

 

[Primal Slayer]

We already know that he will be a teenager in this incarnation.

 

[Scourge2099]

I don't really care since I don't have Cartoon Network or most of the other cool channels anymore because of cut backs due to the economy. Thanks for the "change" Obama.

 

[terry78]

I don't really care since I don't have Cartoon Network or most of the other cool channels anymore because of cut backs due to the economy. Thanks for the "change" Obama.

Uh-huh.....

 

[Scourge2099]

Uh-huh.....

My state's economy hasn't improved one iota. I think California is the only state who's economy hasn't improved. So I'd like to thank the President for the great "change" he delivered.

 

[Denny67]

Yeah sorry. The new designs don't look like Pokemon at all.

I mean Tygra even has a pistol. Panthro's been made into a big powerhouse dude. He's got mutton chops like Wolverine.

If you wanted something like FOTN or Ninja Scroll. C'mon. Have you even watched the original Thundercats?

The original Thundercats series was pretty sanitized and bland at times. Wasn't guys getting chopped up like in Ninja Scroll. And in Japanese Gatchaman, people died left and right and got messed up.

I think you may have misunderstood what I was saying a little bit.

I was not talking about content, subject matter or levels of violence. I was merelytalking about character designs and animation style. If you go back you will see that I never said that this current Thundercats version looked "exactly" like anything. Only that it was closer to later animation style examples than the first.

Hope that clears it up.

 

[TheVileOne]

Yes and I still think you are wrong .

California is in the toilet right now and the state is on the brink of bankruptcy.

 

[Casius--J]

Snarf looks ok actually but he's not going to speak? When was that confirmed. Not a big issue really because yes he could be annoying sometimes. Looking forward to seeing the kittens and mummrah

 

[Metallo]

while i agree with you vile he choose the wrong examples but you can see my point, look at the last motu( know you're a fan) it had the anime look and appeal without the wide eye look

teen titans seem to be the best example of this style.

Have you ever looked at the size of a cats eyes in relation to their faces. It makes sense to me that the Thundercats should have wider than human eyes.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

Have you ever looked at the size of a cats eyes in relation to their faces. It makes sense to me that the Thundercats should have wider than human eyes.

yes i have and can see where you're coming from but this hyper anime look just comes across as lazy designing hell you could have them go up against the ben 10 aliens and most would fit in

maybe i'm wrong i do not mind the redesign but i would perfer a more serious art style to them, to see if they work, i mean look at jim lee's and ed mcguinness attempts at the characters that style really works, even something like the young justice style

sadly i just do not want to see this go the way of 200x MOTU the show was good but not a huge hit and the toys bombs. flash forward to now and all they have done is take the classic look and use modern styling and they're one of the most popular lines at the mo

 

[Metallo]

yes i have and can see where you're coming from but this hyper anime look just comes across as lazy designing hell you could have them go up against the ben 10 aliens and most would fit in

maybe i'm wrong i do not mind the redesign but i would perfer a more serious art style to them, to see if they work, i mean look at jim lee's and ed mcguinness attempts at the characters that style really works, even something like the young justice style

sadly i just do not want to see this go the way of 200x MOTU the show was good but not a huge hit and the toys bombs. flash forward to now and all they have done is take the classic look and use modern styling and they're one of the most popular lines at the mo

In todays animation world your not going to see anything that detailed on a weekly tv series. Theres time and budget to take into consideration. Its partly why Batman TAS was redesigned when it went to The WB. streamlining everything to get the work done faster, cheaper, and supposedly with more fluidity.

They say they are designing this show with todays styles in mind and I can understand that if they want to reach a younger audience that will be the ones that keep this show alive for the long term future. You gotta have kids interested.

If anything this style on Thundercats suits it more than certain oother retro cartoons redesigns. GI Joe should be going for a solid reality based style like the one you want but it isn't.

MOTU 2002 died early because Cartoon Network and Mattel mishandled a LOT of things like tv airings and scheduling and availability of certain toys. The style and look of the series wasn't one of them. IF thundercats is a well written show then the only thing thats goign too hurt it is how the network promotes and airs it and distribution and availability of merchandise.

as for Ben 10...i don't care for it but its style seems less stereotypically anime looking than stuff like Pokemon or even Teen Titans. It has a certain anime influence but I also I see a lot of simple shapes, lack of detail, large eyes...but thats a staple of American animation just as much as Japanese animation

I see a lot of anime influence in cheetaras face here

or Carly here from the G1 Transformers

Maybe your problem is more the simplicity off the designs? I can understand that.

When i look at some of Ed McGuinesses artwork i see a LOT of anime influence

The exaggerated open mouth and the big eyes

To me the new Thundercats designs look a hell of a lot better than this
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/9186/GIJoe.jpg

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

In todays animation world your not going to see anything that detailed on a weekly tv series. Theres time and budget to take into consideration. Its partly why Batman TAS was redesigned when it went to The WB. streamlining everything to get the work done faster, cheaper, and supposedly with more fluidity.

They say they are designing this show with todays styles in mind and I can understand that if they want to reach a younger audience that will be the ones that keep this show alive for the long term future. You gotta have kids interested.

If anything this style on Thundercats suits it more than certain oother retro cartoons redesigns. GI Joe should be going for a solid reality based style like the one you want but it isn't.

MOTU 2002 died early because Cartoon Network and Mattel mishandled a LOT of things like tv airings and scheduling and availability of certain toys. The style and look of the series wasn't one of them. IF thundercats is a well written show then the only thing thats goign too hurt it is how the network promotes and airs it and distribution and availability of merchandise.

as for Ben 10...i don't care for it but its style seems less stereotypically anime looking than stuff like Pokemon or even Teen Titans. It has a certain anime influence but I also I see a lot of simple shapes, lack of detail, large eyes...but thats a staple of American animation just as much as Japanese animation

I see a lot of anime influence in cheetaras face here

or Carly here from the G1 Transformers

Maybe your problem is more the simplicity off the designs? I can understand that.

When i look at some of Ed McGuinesses artwork i see a LOT of anime influence

The exaggerated open mouth and the big eyes

To me the new Thundercats designs look a hell of a lot better than this
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/9186/GIJoe.jpg

my 5 year old drawings look better than that

we seem to be getting confused with each others points, i have no problem with anime influences the two examples you used there of the original and transformers prove you can combine the to styles and have it work, if you took the animation styles of the original shows and use modern tech it could look superb.

i used McGuinesses as an example as he's worked on the property and i see that as a good combo of influences and works well with animation eg public enemy's, i give you jim lee was a bad example his detail would never work in animation but could work in a comic of the new show, again ala mvcreations MOTU

its stuff like the above i hate it's lazy and takes away from the character, that show was saved like you said by the writing it made up for the poor designs and over exaggerated reactions

ben 10 was a bad example the shows look and style are again a good combo my problem with the link with thundercats stems from the toys

it's things likes this i don't want in thundercats, i could be wrong at the moment all i have to go on is the toys but they all seem to have huge hands and huge feet which hopefully wont be as noticeable in the toon

i hope we get some footage soon as it could put a whole lot of minds at rest

 

[Metallo]

Looking at the artwork from the actual show their hands and don't seem to be ridiculously out of proportion and looks a lot more of a middle ground than Teen Titans. It doesn't seem to be nearly as extreme in style as that.

If anything McGuinesses drawings have more ridiculous physical proprtions than anything I've seen from the new Thundercats show so far. Look at the feet and fists on his Superman. HUUUUUGE.

I think what your seeing with the toys is more an issue with the toys to make them functional for kids and since sometimes animation designs don't always translate perfectly into toy designs and others not as much effort is made to make the match up perfectly.

 

[Gabe99]

Flixist Exclusive (Flixclusive):
Thundercats CG Footage

 

[tecnowraith]

This may not be real cause I thought it was gonna be traditional animation.