The TMNT Trailer Thread!

[Marvin]

I know I'm late in responding to this post but...

You talk as if every movie throughout history has been made exactly the same way. Often times, yes, the director has a vision for a film and the movie they make is a result of their creativity.

However, sometimes, especially with big budget summer blockbusters, a director is just a hired gun whose job is to point the camera in the direction they are told. In these cases, the vision for a film often comes from...[drum roll] the producers!

This is Bay's movie. Whether you want to admit it or not.

Also, ever heard of ghost directing?

So, conjecture it is.

And yes, I've heard of ghost directing, that must be what's going on here as it does with all of bay produced films.

 

[SpitCurl]

I was actually agreeing with you, it sounded different in my head of course. Not even sure why I quoted you tbh, it's a habit I guess.

Ah, then cheers t:

 

[Sterling Archer]

So, conjecture it is.

And yes, I've heard of ghost directing, that must be what's going on here as it does with all of bay produced films.

It's as much conjecture as you saying Liebesman has creative control.

And even if Liebesman does have more control than Bay, I hardly see why that's a point you use to defend this movie. Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Wrath of the Titans, Battle LA... These aren't exactly good movies.

 

[Marvin]

It's as much conjecture as you saying Liebesman has creative control.

And even if Liebesman does have more control than Bay, I hardly see why that's a point you use to defend this movie. Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Wrath of the Titans, Battle LA... These aren't exactly good movies.

As much conjecture?
Take a look a all the films that come out each year, all the big blockbusters, just how many of them are ghost directed or lack director control? How many from paramount or platinum dunes?
If you are going to make a bold against the grain statement about the goings on of a production such as the producer(who is working on big film being released a month prior) has taken control, I think you would have more than loose conjecture.

I don't think anyone said those were great or good movies...which kinda legitimizes my motivation. Again this isn't the Snyder/Nolan situation. There is nothing to admit. He's in the directors chair and he's making the film.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Bayformers:
-Over-saturated colours
-Megan Fox
-Slow-mo action that's hard to see

Liebesman TMNT:
-Over-saturated colours
-Megan Fox
-Slow-mo action that's hard to see

Are you really telling me that Bay had little influence over how this movie got made? It looks exactly like a Bay movie.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Liebesman's movies contain those things as well. I personally dont think much of him as a director at all so IMO Bay being more involved is a good thing. But Bay has been shooting TF4 while this has been made so he cant have been that hands on.

 

[CGHulk]

Finally a higher quality release of the trailer from Paramount.
http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/t...ATURTLES_PARAMOUNT_TRAILER_PRO_h264_1080p.mov

 

[FrostBite]

It's as much conjecture as you saying Liebesman has creative control.

And even if Liebesman does have more control than Bay, I hardly see why that's a point you use to defend this movie. Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Wrath of the Titans, Battle LA... These aren't exactly good movies.

You're right. They actually got similar reviews to the original two Ninja Turtles flicks.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

This place has by far the most positive reaction to the trailer. It is interesting really. The more I see the teaser, the more I like the turtles, and the more I dislike everything else.

 

[FrostBite]

This place has by far the most positive reaction to the trailer. It is interesting really. The more I see the teaser, the more I like the turtles, and the more I dislike everything else.

The world is cranky so I am glad the Hype is more positive. I am genuinely ecstatic.

 

[marcvader]

I wish the trailer had teased all four turtles equally well. Thats my only gripe so far really. Couldn't really tell much by it otherwise.

 

[Kirmit]

I wish the trailer had teased all four turtles equally well. Thats my only gripe so far really. Couldn't really tell much by it otherwise.

I agree, could've done with clearer shots of Don and Raph. I also would've really liked a shot of all four standing together, hopefully the full trailer will do this.

 

[marcvader]

I agree, could've done with clearer shots of Don and Raph. I also would've really liked a shot of all four standing together, hopefully the full trailer will do this.

They should've done all of that it essentially being the first look of this movie. I dont get why they took this route really.

 

[Marvin]

Bayformers:
-Over-saturated colours
-Megan Fox
-Slow-mo action that's hard to see

Liebesman TMNT:
-Over-saturated colours
-Megan Fox
-Slow-mo action that's hard to see

Are you really telling me that Bay had little influence over how this movie got made? It looks exactly like a Bay movie.

Not sure if you've seen those Liebesman films you were quick to mention as bad but they too are shot and lit very much commercially. The same thing with that last GI joe film. Paramount has been making their toy line films look a certain way. Not to mention the Platinum Dunes standard.
As for megan fox, that was probably a producer note yes, but then the same could have been and was said about Shia in the original Transformers, and that still didn't make it a Spielberg film.

One thing to keep in mind is that this film has several producers, some of which are fairly powerful and some of them have worked on both franchises. Like with the bay must be directing claim, people also think he's the singular producer with all the power as well. I fear people make far too many assumptions about the true minutia of this stuff.

 

[Zaron]

As the Black Nerd said, Bay's name has been all over this from day one. This has all his signature elements, and he's been the mouthpiece for this project since it began. This is a Michael Bay movie.

Besides, calling it a Michael Bay movie is a lot better than calling it a Jonathan Liebesman, because at least Bay has a few good movies under his belt.

 

[Marvin]

I actually thought your link was going provide something other than another fan saying the same exact thing again.

I often wonder why the group think on the internet is so wide spread when it comes to these sorts of movies(cbms and stuff). Youtube really plays a big part I think.

The studio selling it with Bay as the mouth piece is maybe the single biggest reason it's guaranteed to make it's budget back box office wise. That has little to do with whose movie it is. As for the signature elements...again bay isn't the only person with such elements.

For cripes say have you people even seen a Liebesman trailer?

 

[marcvader]

So what's the argument? Are people upset Bay is attached to this?

 

[Zaron]

So what's the argument? Are people upset Bay is attached to this?

I have no idea why people keep arguing over this. I suppose it's because Bay has this huge reputation for screwing up franchise films because of the Transformers movies, while Liebesman has no such reputation, even though his filmmaking history is much worse than Bay's. Still, I get the feeling people are arguing against calling it a Michael Bay film because they fear the hatred his name stirs up in internet discussions. It's a pointless argument if you ask me, since the studio obviously does not share this fear of using Bay's name.

 

[terry78]

Yeah, I have yet to actually see any film attempt to hide the fact that Bay is involved. Nerds don't like him, but everyone else actually does or is indifferent.

 

[Marvin]

Yeah, I have yet to actually see any film attempt to hide the fact that Bay is involved. Nerds don't like him, but everyone else actually does or is indifferent.

The irony of suggesting bay has a reputation for driving franchises into the ground on is only a thing that could be conceived in the world of self important internet types. Bay's actually responsible for quite the opposite.
Battleship, Green Lantern, Airbender and many others all send their regards. Meanwhile TF is arguably the biggest starter from nothing with increasing revenue trilogy there is today.

It's actually a shame bay isn't the one making the film given the circumstances, though Paramount clearly want people to know he's firmly attached. Funny they would do such a thing given his reputation for ruining franchises and all.

I can only speak for myself but I for one am tired of fans attributing credit where they please, good or bad. If Nolan was producer on this fans would no doubt be saying he directed this. Great and all but that kinda stinks for the guy who get's over looked. Bay knows all about this given his first shot in hollywood was under a Don Simpson/Bruckhiemer production.
If Liebesman succeeds I hope he get's all the credit and a career boost, if he fails same deal...but this is the internet and everybody knows everything.

 

[TDK elbowstrike]

So, my question is, if the turtles posses enough strength to total a hummer, throw soldiers into ceilings, and do backflips off of four-story water towers, what threat could a normal martial artist like Shredder pose? Will he somehow be amped physically? In order to take on the turtle behemoths of this movie, it seems like shredder may need to be more powerful than in any other incarnation.

I mean, my god, the way Leo moved in the trailer leads me to believe he could possibly solo the Super Shredder from Secret of the Ooze. Shredder will need to be amped up too in this new movie imo.

 

[OutOfBoose]

^Exo-skeleton armor, large blades, maybe mutagen...

 

[TDK elbowstrike]

Exo-skeleton is something I didn't even think of. Id b cool with that. I think mutagen is most likely though. A normal martial artist would likey be no match for even one of THESE turtles, much less all four at once.

 

[dark_b]

I wish the trailer had teased all four turtles equally well. Thats my only gripe so far really. Couldn't really tell much by it otherwise.

they couldnt show Raph.he looks like a monster with insane eyes. they would lost all positive reactions hahaha t:

 

[dark_b]

yeah the suit is 100% an exo skeleton armor. the final fight could be epic if they will not use shaky cam.