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I haven't read up on the revised part of it, but isn't one of the stipulations that you already have to be in the US for 6-8 years or something to even qualify? It just seems at that point it really just doesn't matter all that much.

Something like that. I'm just really torn. I mean, I can get behind someone wanting to go to school and better their lives etc. At the same time, if you get caught you get caught. I don't think being in the country 20 years changes that fact.

In my case I was born here and when my parents applied for US Residency, they had been here for 10 years, and were facing deportation. We got lucky.
 
So what does everyone think of this whole DREAM Act stuff? As a son of once illegal immigrants, I am a huge defender of immigrants and their plight. At the same time, this whole DREAM act thing, I just can't get behind it. If you're illegal, you're illegal end of story. Why should you be anymore special than the guy who cuts my grass? Because you're studying in college? I feel bad for them, but at the same time you're breaking the law.

What's this DREAM Act business? This is the first I'm hearing of it.
 
What's this DREAM Act business? This is the first I'm hearing of it.

Pretty much what it boils down to is it would grant legal access to college kids who happen to be illegal immigrants.
 
yer back! :hrt:
:hrt: I am! It's Darth's fault.


So what does everyone think of this whole DREAM Act stuff? As a son of once illegal immigrants, I am a huge defender of immigrants and their plight. At the same time, this whole DREAM act thing, I just can't get behind it. If you're illegal, you're illegal end of story. Why should you be anymore special than the guy who cuts my grass? Because you're studying in college? I feel bad for them, but at the same time you're breaking the law.

I'd like to know how they'd pay for college anyway. :huh: I know I'm having a hard enough time doing it myself. (FAFSA have my babies :hrt:)

But as a whole I don't think it's fair. Illegal is illegal is illegal. Um, what's the opposite of legal? Illegal. What does it mean to be illegal? It means not being able to have the same benefits as those who are legal. I know immigration is sometimes a squishy subject, but in this case I come down on the side of lawful good. Gain Citizenship, (which honestly might need to be looked at and reworked in this day and age), go to college.

The flip side is that the law would also grant citizenship after x years of military duty. Which seems a bit smarmy. Especially with what we've been doing with the troops recently. Seems like upper-class extortion.
 
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I finally got around to watching The Prisoner (bought the blu-ray set for a good price on eBay awhile back), and the first three episodes were bloody fantastic. Some of the effects and sets are dated, but besides that, holds up incredibly well for a show done in the '60s.
 
agreed....so Im watching Goldmember (yes I like all three films) and its funny to see pre-trainwreck Brittany Spears
 
Looks like Close Encounters.

You were abducted by aliens really :ninja:



You could always check it out on dvd Charlie Boy

That's really, very beautiful.

Beautiful and scary.

Jesus, that is absolutely stunningly beautiful. Was anyone killed in it? I hope not, because that's just so gorgeous.

I just saw the most beautiful bright shining shade of blue I ever saw in my life. If there is such a thing as perfect, this shade of genius blue is it.

optimuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuussss!

Yeah it may be awesome from a far but trying to drive through that was scary as s***. Like I said, I thought I almost died 10 times. lol
 
Yeah it may be awesome from a far but trying to drive through that was scary as s***. Like I said, I thought I almost died 10 times. lol

I bet it was, but man, that seems like it'd be akin the first time you drop acid, or get completely stoned. A somewhat frightening experience, but ones that put a new spin on perceptive in life.
 
Well, we all take hits from different bowls, I suppose.
 
Not so much "taking a hit" as "taking a s***".

Or, as Nubs would say "It takes different strokes to pull your world..."

Now I'm just GIVING him quotes...
 
I...think we might need to leave the quoting to 'Nubs himself :O
 
Yeah it may be awesome from a far but trying to drive through that was scary as s***. Like I said, I thought I almost died 10 times. lol

I think it was totally worth the emotional trauma. :cwink:
 
Well, I may have paraphrased a little.

It may have been "It takes transgender folks to pull my spoke..." but that didn't really apply to the situation at hand... if you'll pardon the pun.
 
So what does everyone think of this whole DREAM Act stuff? As a son of once illegal immigrants, I am a huge defender of immigrants and their plight. At the same time, this whole DREAM act thing, I just can't get behind it. If you're illegal, you're illegal end of story. Why should you be anymore special than the guy who cuts my grass? Because you're studying in college? I feel bad for them, but at the same time you're breaking the law.

One of the biggest issues during my little country's Parliament elections was the issue of immigration, legal or otherwise, being out of control and essentially displacing the local population by being granted managerial positions, places in top tertiary education centers (to which they excel in I'll admit) and housing and so on.

This is especially dangerous for a guy like me, a mix of two NOW-minorities and part of a religion viewed as backward and extremist to deal with. In the 80s-90s, the ruling party espoused the 'Learn English' campaign and vehemently believed that the mastery of the English language would be important for future generations. Thus the official National Language which is Malay (despite the country being majority Chinese even back in the day) was no longer promoted even though all official Acts passed in Parliament are first drafted in Malay (more symbolism than anything). Hence while most minorities speak both English and their native language, the bigger criteria for employment back then was good spoken English.

These days, with the Chinese economy growing strong and essentially shaping the economic policies for most countries in the ASEAN realm, the ruling party was singing a new tune and Mandarin was now the focal language, either to attract more mainland Chinese investors or to make things easier to Chinese immigration to the country. A main criteria for most work places now is bilingual skills: English and...Mandarin. Which needless to say leaves a lot of us ***** out of luck. It isn't so bad yet but there was a time where the Malay population of the country stood at about 23% but now edges closer to 19%. The local Chinese population isn't exactly thrilled either. These PRCs (People's Republic Chinese) mostly converse in mainland Mandarin and most locals prefer speaking a mix of dialect and Mandarin.

Fears of Sinicization are abound, the minorities already feeling the pinch of higher numbers of unemployment and alienation by the majority who are also coping with the larger numbers of PRC immigration to the country.

Look to Europe and you'll see immigration fears stemming from Islamophobia, the belief that Northern African immigrant to these countries are slowly trying to displace the local population (either through alleged terrorism or a population explosion) despite these communities being mired in poverty, crime and low standards of living supposedly attributed to their backward culture and Islamic belief.

Immigration is a pretty difficult thing to argue for or against. I'm not happy that a job that I'm qualified for can't be given to me because I can't speak Mandarin especially since I was a by-product of the ruling party's previous policies (I scored A1 in my GCE 'O' Levels English) but I suppose I have to either adapt or be left behind. Not a lot of people can accept that though. Why should I let a foreigner who wasn't even born here take my place in schools, take my job and later let him/her be granted citizenship to better integrate them into the local society?
 
Which leads me to wonder what their criteria for axing shows is. Some of their programs are really interesting and well done but they last about a season or less.

This has always been Fox's criteria for axing shows.
 
I bet it was, but man, that seems like it'd be akin the first time you drop acid, or get completely stoned. A somewhat frightening experience, but ones that put a new spin on perceptive in life.

Haha man I didn't find either of those things scary, they both p. much totally owned
 
ratings, and the American Idol curve

the only SERIOUS grudge I have against Fox is Arrested Development...Im still trying to figure out how a show that gets nominated for 20+ Emmys in its run still gets canned

The only grudge I have against Fox is Sliders.

Man, I ****ing loved Sliders. :cmad:
 
The only grudge I have against Fox is Sliders.

Man, I ****ing loved Sliders. :cmad:

It lived on for like another 2 seasons on the Sci-Fi Channel. I don't like to think about that last season, though.
 
The second dude's brother jumped on board it started circling the drain...
 
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