The Wachowskis Returning to Sci-Fi with Jupiter Ascending - Part 1

I'm beginning to wonder why you'd put this kind of movie at Sundance in the first place? I get it's a marketing thing, but when you think of the Sundance Film Festival, I don't think people are out the door exclaiming how excited they are about Jupiter Ascending.

So the Sundance crowd walking out of Jupiter Ascending.... isn't that surprising. Could be forshadowing to the movie's quality, or it's just one of those things that doesn't gel with them. We'll know for sure by Friday though I'm certain unfortunately it won't change, as people are already hating it before it's even come out. Granted in this day and age people are allowed to cast judgement on something on the basis of how a movie looks with the marketing because that's what marketing does. Market the product to make us see the movie. And we have to pay for it first. If the movie isn't marketed well, even if the movie might be good, that's considered a failure on the film's part.
 
Back when the Matrix sequels were being made, I was posting on a Matrix fansite and Max was also a regular poster.
This is around 2003. And he was posting with the same passion and drive then as he was posting now.

Thanks for settling the whole "Max is a plant" stupidity.

matrix_ghost is one of multiple SHH posters who recognised me from years past and warmly welcomed me to this forum via PM.

I didn't want to drag them into DarthSkywalker's pettiness, so I decided not to mention them – but I greatly appreciate matrix_ghost taking a principled stand.

Respek.

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Now, back on topic:


'JUPITER ASCENDING' Reviews Finally Materialise -- "Vitally Fresh and Exciting," The Anti-Marvel Movie "Buries the Best of Recent Hollywood" with "An Overload of Ideas, Energy, Ambition" that's been "Unseen Since 'STAR WARS' (1977)":

Jupiter Ascending debuted at French film festival, Gerardmer.

Simon Riaux for écranlarge said:
[Translated from French by Google. Edited for bad translation.]

After the undeserved failure of 'Cloud Atlas', it was feared that the Wachowskis' latest project, 'Jupiter Ascending', would be a run-of-the-mill blockbuster science fiction, designed to regain public favor and industry standing. These concerns have been rendered moot as the film is instead an earthquake of unexpected magnitude.

It takes less than half an hour for 'Jupiter Ascending' to bury all that Hollywood has produced for many years in this spectacular space opera. An incredible chase through the sky, sea and land arises from the first reel, whereby Channing Tatum confronts an over-armed squadron, leaving us speechless. And the stunning power only grows over the next two hours.

An epic radically devoid of dull moments, the Wachowskis take us through their inordinate ambition. Their interstellar canvas boggles the mind, as the work is full of astounding details revealing vistas that are deliriously arcane, every last neuron is absorbed with its invigorating wealth.

Opting for a linear storyline, the film's structure wrestles with an extremely dense narrative that results in an absolute rollercoaster ride; the filmmakers further amplify the impact of the film by saturating it with ideas and concepts, any of which could justify their own standalone film. Whether it's a touching scene where Terry Gilliam slips of mano-a-mano power, frantic proceedings that would even blush little guys from Pixar, or spatial dimensions games ever seen, one looks in vain for a fault, or bad taste. Even the look of Tatum becomes convincing and eventually brings a nice touch to this invulnerable warrior.

The characters are not left behind. Simple on paper, the characters are written with a consistency and an implacable logic, each driven by a force greater than themselves, causing them to transcend their condition, in good and evil, which makes issues instantly palpable, the central romance of the story, like the Herculean climax that concludes this filmic apotheosis.

With worldbuilding and a universe that gives the film an excellence that makes up for countless blockbuster products of franchises with an original idea given mainstream treatment, 'Jupiter Ascending' carries spectacle to a stratospheric level, an ambition that we had perhaps not seen since ... 1977.

VERDICT:
A bewildering spectacle that burns every image onto the viewer's retina and embarks on a space epic of mythological proportions.

4.5/5


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John Semley for macleans.ca said:
WHAT ON EARTH ARE THE WACHOWSKIS UP TO NOW?
Siblings reinvent the sci-fi blockbuster, with a perfectly Matrix-ian twist.


Leaving a Brooklyn mall in the spring of 1999, filmmaker Darren Aronofsky ('The Wrestler', 'Black Swan') was gripped by a sense of possibility. "I walked out of 'The Matrix'," he recalled in a 2006 Wired profile, "and I was thinking, 'What kind of science fiction movie can people make now?'"

The influence of 'The Matrix' -- directed by sibling duo Andy and Lana Wachowski -- would trickle down across the next decade of Hollywood filmmaking, from the clingy leather costumes in 'X-Men' to the slo-mo "bullet time" cinematography of 'Equilibrium' and 'Wanted', to the high-wire stunts of 'Charlie's Angels'. But more substantial attempts to answer Aronofsky’s "What’s next?" head-scratcher lay elsewhere: in films such as Richard Kelly's 'Southland Tales', Aronofsky’s own 'Noah' (a Biblical epic that played like a sci-fi apocalypse story), and the Wachowskis' own 'Speed Racer', 'Cloud Atlas' and, now, 'Jupiter Ascending'. "These movies are just super-unwieldy," says Peter Kuplowsky, senior programmer of the Toronto After Dark film festival. "They sometimes have too many ideas. But there’s something so sincere about them."

Over the past 15 years, the Wachowskis have shaped a "new ambitiousness" in blockbuster cinema: big-budget movies with big aspirations to match. Whatever shortages these films may possess, they can rarely be faulted for failure of imagination. "We seem not to be very good at making small things," co-director Lana told AP. "We keep saying, 'Let’s go make a small movie.' But then we always end up being enormously complex." Jupiter Ascending is nothing if not enormous. And "complex" is an understatement. Mila Kunis plays Jupiter Jones, a housecleaner swept into an intergalactic Cinderella story, when it's revealed she’s the reincarnation of an alien queen. She's carried into the cosmos by a disgraced half-human, half-wolf ex-military officer (Channing Tatum) -- decked out with anti-gravity rocket skates -- who wants to deliver Jupiter to one of three heirs in a sprawling galactic empire that harvests genetic material from planets in order to sustain the everlasting youth and beauty of its upper-crusters. It is, with due respect, exactly as silly as it sounds.

The film sees the Wachowskis indulging all of their artistic idiosyncrasies, be they pseudo-philosophical or just plain dorky (the movie’s cosplay-chic wardrobe). It also offers the latest variation on a theme they’ve been preoccupied with throughout their career, most obsessively in their unfairly maligned Hollywood expressionist lark 'Speed Racer': the deleterious effects of capitalism on the human soul. "'Speed Racer' was a complete takedown of big business," says Kuplowsky. "Yet they need Warner Brothers to fund it."

It may be hard to swallow the idea of monstrously budgeted, anti-capitalist studio filmmaking. As the feminist writer Audre Lorde noted, "The master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house." But Wachowski believers hold it’s possible to offer sweeping social criticism at such a massive scale. "Because of the iconography of 'V For Vendetta'," says Kuplowsky, citing the Wachowski-written adaption of the cult comic, "we have Anonymous. We have the hacktivist movement. A generation saw this movie and was blown away. No matter how naive the politics were, it moved people to care about something."

This intense passion hums through 'Jupiter Ascending', a film that grounds its ideas and whiz-bang action scenes in very human characters. Where plenty of blockbusters make the humans feel incidental, gawking on the sidelines while transforming robots or ninja turtles get the action, the Wachowskis keep their characters centre stage. One action sequence exploding over the Chicago skyline seems to revolve around Kunis’s character; alien robots zip and explode around her.

Like other films of the New Ambitiousness, 'Jupiter Ascending' juggles too many balls, overstuffing its action with characters and sci-fi mythology. But, against the paint-by-numbers Marvel Studios outings (even last summer’s surprise hit 'Guardians of the Galaxy' felt like a redressed 'Avengers'-in-space), it feels vitally fresh and exciting. An overload of ideas, energy, ambition and dopey sincerity is always better than a paucity of the same.


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Twitter said:
[Edited for bad translation.]

Drive-In à Gerardmer ‏@DriveInCaen 1m1 minute ago

Alex et Louis ont vu Jupiter Ascending et pour eux, c'est le meilleur film du festival et un choc similaire a Matrix. Excitation maximale !


Alex and Louis have seen Jupiter Ascending and according to them, this is the best film of the festival, and a similar shock as the Matrix was. Maximum excitement!



Simon Riaux ‏@SimRiaux 2m2 minutes ago

Avec #JupiterAscending mon cerveau a fondu de bonheur. On avait pas vu aussi grandiose et épique depuis... 1977 ? #Gerardmer2015


With #JupiterAscending my brain has melted from happiness. We had not seen something as grandiose and epic since... 1977? #Gerardmer2015





Camille Faguer ‏@camillefaguer 49s50 seconds ago

#JupiterAscending visuellement impressionnant ! Les Wachowski au sommet de leur art. #Gerardmer2015



#JupiterAscending visually impressive! The Wachowski at the top of their art. #Gerardmer2015



Marc-André ‏@MarcAndre_V 2m2 minutes ago

#Gerardmer2015 #JupiterAscending est un Space Opera dantesque qui redore le blason de la lignée Wachowski.


#Gerardmer2015 #JupiterAscending is a grandiose Space Opera that proudly stands tall in the Wachowskis household.
 
Twitter and a few reviews doesn't say anything about the general consensus of a movie. Everybody has a positive review of one movie and anyone can take one or even two and use it to proclaim something as positive. In fact, the lowest you can get for credibility is when they post tweet reviews on the commercials to make it seem like, "The world is raving." This isn't new. I seem to remember twitter being positive about Green Lantern.
 
And most of those twitter reviews mention are the visuals.

I think everyone thinks the visuals look good to great. Im more worried about the story.
 
...everyone thinks the visuals look good to great. I'm more worried about the story.

I read a tweet that said Jupiter Ascending crams a trilogy's worth of story into two hours.

Frankly, I don't understand peoples' complaints about it being a "simplistic story".

Aren't most of these comic book movies just Stop the Bad Guy from Conquering the World™ narratives?
 
I read a tweet that said Jupiter Ascending crams a trilogy's worth of story into two hours.

Are you trying to suggest this is a good thing?
 
Thanks for settling the whole "Max is a plant" stupidity.

matrix_ghost is one of multiple SHH posters who recognised me from years past and warmly welcomed me to this forum via PM.

I didn't want to drag them into DarthSkywalker's pettiness, so I decided not to mention them – but I greatly appreciate matrix_ghost taking a principled stand.

Respek.

The broader internet nerdosphere, of which SHH is but one part, is currently overrun by partisans and shills of Disney corporation, specifically Star Wars and Marvel. I appreciate the effort you're making to bring balance to the discussion. You're taking on a lot of petty abuse but some of us do appreciate these informative links you're posting.

To reiterate, I'm no Wachowski fanboy. I didn't like V for Vendetta, nor Matrix Revolutions. I have not seen most of their films. I am a fanboy however of space, I've been in love with space since I was 4 or 5 years old, and as an adult I became an astrophysicist. I'm also by extension a fanboy of creative science fiction, of creating new properties and new worlds and new characters and imagining a different universe with interesting concepts and styles, as opposed to recycling the same old same old like most blockbusters and most CBMs in particular. That's why I'm looking forward to Jupiter Ascending, I don't know if it's going to deliver but I hope it will.

It's interesting that Jupiter Ascending is labelled as an "Anti-Marvel movie". Previously I was hoping that it would merely be indulgent and awesome. But perhaps that label is implying that it will also be a movie that takes risks and has themes? If so, that makes me even more excited for the movie.
 
I read a tweet that said Jupiter Ascending crams a trilogy's worth of story into two hours.

Frankly, I don't understand peoples' complaints about it being a "simplistic story".

Aren't most of these comic book movies just Stop the Bad Guy from Conquering the World™ narratives?

I'll give the movie a lot of points if it doesn't have the same third act as Captain America 2, Guardians of the Galaxy, Man of Steel, Elysium, The Avengers, and Stark Trek into Darkness.

But honestly I'm so burned out from that garbage, that I'm expecting it will.
 
The person who agreed that people who didn't love Interstellar are dumb is pretending to be some innocent victim. A Nolan zealot pretending that they are any better than a Marvel zealot makes me laugh.

None of us on here are innocent victims, not one.

Max is an obsessive they can do no wrong W-siblings fanboy (or shill) just like Kendrell is an obsessed they can do no wrong fanboy or shill for Marvel.
 
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...I'm no Wachowski fanboy. I didn't like V for Vendetta, nor Matrix Revolutions. I have not seen most of their films.

Fair enough.

We all have our preferences.

But at least you're not letting off a vibe of rooting for a movie to be bad.

I am a fanboy however of space, I've been in love with space since I was 4 or 5 years old, and as an adult I became an astrophysicist.
That's legitimately awesome :yay:

I'm also by extension a fanboy of creative science fiction, of creating new properties and new worlds and new characters and imagining a different universe with interesting concepts and styles, as opposed to recycling the same old same old like most blockbusters and most CBMs in particular. That's why I'm looking forward to Jupiter Ascending, I don't know if it's going to deliver but I hope it will.
Great to hear!

CLICK HERE for a Wachowski interview about their similar inspirations for Jupiter Ascending:

The Wachowskis in ReZirb said:
"I can’t even remember a time when alien intelligence or the potential inherent in the vastness of space didn’t fascinate us," says Lana Wachowski. "Who didn’t love Carl Sagan's 'Cosmos'? And the movie '2001: A Space Odyssey' had such a profound impact on us. But as storytellers, what got us excited about that potential was answering the question, 'If someone else is out there, and they know about us, why don’t they want us to know about them?'"
 
The broader internet nerdosphere, of which SHH is but one part, is currently overrun by partisans and shills of Disney corporation, specifically Star Wars and Marvel. I appreciate the effort you're making to bring balance to the discussion. You're taking on a lot of petty abuse but some of us do appreciate these informative links you're posting.

You hit the nail on the head.

Anti-Wachowski vitriol seems to have become the status quo. Whatever you think of their output, there's little doubt that they've changed the face of the industry and are continually attempting to break new ground.

Yes, I'm overzealous in my support of the duo; but it's only because I'm attempting to counteract the legions of foam-mouthed Wachowski haters who dominate the lopsided debate on their careers.

It is a little Neo Vs. 1000 Smiths at times, but I'm totally cool with that.

Thanks for the appreciation :cwink:
 
I like the Wachowski's. Like i said before, they maybe inconsistent, but they always try interesting things. Whether they succeed or fail, it's rarely boring.
 
I read a tweet that said Jupiter Ascending crams a trilogy's worth of story into two hours.

I'm glad one person's opinion on twitter was able to make me feel better.
 
That's the thing, I didn't find it to be particularly riveting and the constant intercutting made it more convoluted rather than less. What exactly is so "unfilmable" about the book exactly?

:huh:
You need exact details of how most considered the book unfilmable?
You've got several eras of time which the book jumps back and forth across, a huge cast of characters, locations all over the world and Mitchell the author himself saying it was unfilmable. Which by the way Mitchell felt what the W's and Tykwer did with his novel was ingenious.

It's not like Cloud Atlas was universally panned. Many top critics absolutely loved it, it was definitely divisive to the extreme. Hated or loved no in-between.
 
I fully agree that they needed to use the language of cinema to convey their ideas. That did not have to mean showing things in succession. They could have done it via costuming (which they actually did do often), as well as framing, set design or music. Really with the intercutting they simply didn't trust their imagery. They didn't trust their audience the way the original author did.

I respectfully disagree, since film editing is intrinsically cinematic (it is perhaps the only truly cinematic technique, since all of the others you mention (costuming, music, set design etc.) are found in other artistic mediums) and to use it to communicate the intersections between the different stories was a very smart choice. The only benefit of sticking to the novel's structure would have been fidelity to the novel, and I'm of the opinion that adaptation shouldn't be about slavish faithfulness - films that adhere too closely to the source material often simply don't work because of a myopic focus on adherence to the original text. It's best to make sensitive changes that adapt the work for the cinematic medium, which is exactly what Cloud Atlas did.

The early word on JA is getting me excited - the film is clearly going to be polarising but that actually makes me more hyped.
 
I'm glad one person's opinion on twitter was able to make me feel better.

Well, I'm happy you're happy. Unlike some people:


"There's not enough story!"

There's a trilogy's worth of story.

"There's too much story!"

:doh:
 
We really need to support this movie, especially since we failed with supporting Interstellar. This is an original, big-budgeted film with no teen novel or comic or reboot or sequel. From the sounds of it, this will be an exciting-yet-flawed movie event (like Interstellar). We NEED to keep stuff like this alive. Let's not keep making the same mistake over and over again. Go see this.
 
We really need to support this movie, especially since we failed with supporting Interstellar. This is an original, big-budgeted film with no teen novel or comic or reboot or sequel. From the sounds of it, this will be an exciting-yet-flawed movie event (like Interstellar). We NEED to keep stuff like this alive. Let's not keep making the same mistake over and over again. Go see this.

The only thing a movie should be judged on is whether or not it's a good movie. We're not obligated to support something just because.
 
We really need to support this movie, especially since we failed with supporting Interstellar. This is an original, big-budgeted film with no teen novel or comic or reboot or sequel. From the sounds of it, this will be an exciting-yet-flawed movie event (like Interstellar). We NEED to keep stuff like this alive. Let's not keep making the same mistake over and over again. Go see this.

This looks bad, so no. I'm all for original stuff, but it needs to be good. And everything I've seen gives me bad vibes. If this comes out and gets acclaim across the board, I'll go see it, but no I'm not giving money to something just because it's original.
 
The only thing a movie should be judged on is whether or not it's a good movie. We're not obligated to support something just because.

Exactly.

The people who wanted to see Interstellar saw Interstellar. We didn't fail to "support" it. Like I said before, I'd rather have a good movie based on source material than a bad original movie.
 
We really need to support this movie, especially since we failed with supporting Interstellar. This is an original, big-budgeted film with no teen novel or comic or reboot or sequel. From the sounds of it, this will be an exciting-yet-flawed movie event (like Interstellar). We NEED to keep stuff like this alive. Let's not keep making the same mistake over and over again. Go see this.

How did we fail Interstellar?

The only thing a movie should be judged on is whether or not it's a good movie. We're not obligated to support something just because.

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