The world's first time machine?

[Star]

i thought the last fantastic four issue described time travel perfectly... you can go back in time but when an event is changed, it merely sets off a fork in time.. a seperate timeline from the original one. essentially we have nothing to worry about... if they go back into the past, were not going to wake up one day with president lincoln as secretary of state and being ruled by giant cats.

Like in DBZ with Trunks!

 

[spideyboy_1111]

If time travel was possible, even in the far future, wouldn't we already know about it?

thats exactly what i just explained. if you go back in time... our time line would not be effected

 

[NewYorkSpider]

If time travel is in the future and people have gone back in time. It should only effect a parallel universe.

 

[QueerMike]

If time travel was possible, even in the far future, wouldn't we already know about it?

Not if there's a conspiracy to keep it from us.

 

[Mike_D202]

I thought for sure TNC9852002 made this thread, but to my surprise he didnt.

I thought you were on the ball with these things TC!! I was wrong!

If time travel was possible, even in the far future, wouldn't we already know about it?

"Cynics often point out that if time travel was really possible, we would have been visited by people from the future. However, Einstein's laws of physics suggest that time travel is only possible into the past as far as the point when the first time machine was invented."



P.S.

If we all get sucked into a man-made blackhole, I'm kicking Russia's ass.

 

[Carcharodon]

"Cynics often point out that if time travel was really possible, we would have been visited by people from the future. However, Einstein's laws of physics suggest that time travel is only possible into the past as far as the point when the first time machine was invented."

Thank you. Jesus Christ, I didn't want to have to post that a THIRD time....

 

[Mike_D202]

Somebody posted this (the CERN project) in another forum:

I'm scared.

Wanna know something even scarier?

John Titor (a supposed time traveler) was quoted as saying: "The breakthrough that will allow for [time travel] technology will occur within a year or so [2001] when CERN brings their larger facility online".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor

 

[Rocker22]

I'm not scared...I'm terrified. It looks like something could work, or fail terribly.

*waits for man from future to prove me right or wrong*

 

[mightiest_mortal]

If time travel is in the future and people have gone back in time. It should only effect a parallel universe.

Nope, all we know is that if people have gone back in to the past then we don't know about it. And i they have influenced the timeline at all then their own future is based on the timeline that they had influenced. It all makes sense really

read this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novikov_self-consistency_principle
as an example, a man travels back in time to discover the cause of a famous fire. While in the building where the fire started, he accidentally knocks over a kerosene lantern and causes the same fire that would eventually inspire him, years later, to travel back in time. after traveling back in time the man "fulfills" the events in the "past" which "already happened" (from the perspective of the future).




Now Paralel worlds... thats just crazy Sci-fi

 

[bullets]

It's a big paradox. It'll never be a part of our reality. Any attempts will cause the universe to implode.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Nope, all we know is that if people have gone back in to the past then we don't know about it. And i they have influenced the timeline at all then their own future is based on the timeline that they had influenced. It all makes sense really

read this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novikov_self-consistency_principle
as an example, a man travels back in time to discover the cause of a famous fire. While in the building where the fire started, he accidentally knocks over a kerosene lantern and causes the same fire that would eventually inspire him, years later, to travel back in time. after traveling back in time the man "fulfills" the events in the "past" which "already happened" (from the perspective of the future).

That's just a theory. So is my example of a parallel universe. Let's say someone goes back in time and stops a major event from happening and then returns to the same point in time he left. His timeline would only be affected(not ours) and he would be in an alternate universe. But, here's the catch. If that guy is sent back in time to only change one event that is selected in the future, then you would have a parodox because the event that he changes wouldn't need to be changed because it didn't happen. There are so many theories out there that can be discussed. I really don't feal like talking about them.

 

[Mike_D202]

I think we're all gonna get sucked into a man-made black hole.

Mark my words.

 

[Noir]

I wish this article would explain how they plan on doing this... Simply because I want to crush all hope of this happening.

 

[04nbod]

pfft..time travel
*walks into the blue police box parked at the end of the street*

 

[Noir]

The Theory of time Travel isn't crazy, it could possibly work.
A man claiming to have time traveled without any proof and or claiming it can be done with little-effort or anything is full of ****.

Plus, this article is bull**** anyways because the man claims the particles are traveling at the speed of light, thats impossible nothing can travel at the speed of light.

Check and mate.

 

[Monster]

Light can travel at the speed of light.

 

[Noir]

Yes? Thats kinda the point..
But nothing else..

 

[Monster]

To be honest.

In theory, we're already looking at the past because the stars are the past

 

[Noir]

yeah but its impossible to that point in time, we can only observe..

 

[Monster]

If only we can use those rays of light as a point of particle combustion.

So we theoretically go to that point in time when the light hit the stars.

 

[Noir]

...[Citation Needed]

 

[Monster]

I was making a wild guess.

I don't even know if that's right.

 

[Noir]

It wasn't..

 

[Rac]

Somebody posted this (the CERN project) in another forum:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor

Can you give an url? I'd like read & see more.

 

[Mike_D202]

Can you give an url? I'd like read & see more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CERN

The accelerator of the future: the Large Hadron Collider

Construction of the CMS detector for LHC at CERNMost of the activities at CERN are currently directed towards building a new collider, the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) and the experiments for it. The LHC represents a large-scale, worldwide scientific cooperation project. Physics experiments are expected to start May 2008, delayed due to an inner triplet magnet assembly failing a pressure test in March 2007[4][5].

The LHC tunnel is located 100 metres underground, in the region between the Geneva airport and the nearby Jura mountains. It uses the 27 km circumference circular tunnel previously occupied by LEP which was closed down in November 2000. CERN's existing PS/SPS accelerator complexes will be used to pre-accelerate protons which will then be injected into the LHC.

Six experiments (CMS, ATLAS, LHCb, TOTEM, LHC-forward and ALICE) are currently being built, and will be running on the collider; each of them will study particle collisions under a different point of view, and with different technologies. Construction for these experiments needed an extraordinary engineering effort. Just as an example, to lower the pieces for the CMS experiment into the underground cavern which will host it, a special crane will have to be rented from Belgium, which will be able to lift the almost 2000 tons for each piece. The first of the approximately 5,000 magnets necessary for construction was lowered down a special shaft at 13:00 GMT on 7 March 2005.

This accelerator will generate vast quantities of computer data, which CERN will stream to laboratories around the world for distributed processing (the GRID technology). In April 2005, a trial successfully streamed 600 MB per second to seven different sites across the world. If all the data generated by the LHC is to be analysed, then scientists must achieve 1,800 MB per second before 2008.