The Worst President in History?

[KingOfDreams]

Who is, pray tell?

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Who is, pray tell?

I hate Jackson a lot more...what he did to the Native Americans and Seminol Indians is virtually unforgivable.

 

[chaseter]

Who is, pray tell?

Bush hasn't even finished his term, therefore he cannot be yet judged. I would have to say Mckinley because he should of been working politics instead of getting into drunken bar fights and getting himself shot.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Bush hasn't even finished his term, therefore he cannot be yet judged. I would have to say Mckinley because he should of been working politics instead of getting into drunken bar fights and getting himself shot.

him too

 

[Logan Howlett]

Well guess what.......I'M JUDGING!

 

[Dwarf lord]

It all depends who's writing the history books... Lincoln was one of the worst presidents in history and yet if you pick up pretty much any high school history textbook it'll praise him as one of the best. Same goes for FDR.

Not true. Well, maybe it's different in my high school. My teacher went with a whole, "I teach, you decide" policy. That made history fun when he let us evaluate the Presidents. It showed that not everyone should me worshiped as much as they are.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Well guess what.......I'M JUDGING!

Which makes you foolish. Plus you're not viewing him from a neutral pov. Obviously someone who has lived during a presidency will be more critical of the president. Look at Reagan, at the end of his term, his approval ratings were in the 60's. Now in retrospect, they're in the 70's.

 

[JLBats]

Warren G. Bastard Harding.

 

[The Chairman]

Harding was one of those presidents no one even remembers, much like Rutherford B. Hayes, the least known of all our presidents.

Some notorious baddies:

Franklin Pierece and Andrew Johnson were notorious for theirstances on slaverys. And as Shadow Boxing pointed, Jackson's treatment of the Native Americans and Seminol Indians was not something we can overlook.

I don't agree with JFK, in fact I'd put him in the Top 15 of best presidents, but as far as latter day 20th century presidents, LBJ rules with an iron fist as the worst. Vietnam, from what I've read, was a bigger mistake than Iraq. We had no purpose being there at all. Call this typical conservative pandering or whatever, but to me Vietnam was way worse than Iraq.

And going by Matt's William Henry Harrison analagy (worst by default), James Garfield was just as bad because he spent his six months in office dying in bed from a gunshot wound.

Nixon is nowhere as bad as everyone says. I'm not denying that Watergate is one of if not the biggest political *****-ups in history, but he did make some good progess, especially as far as Vietnam was concerned. In technical terms, Nixon stopped the draft.

And I disagree with someone who said that Carter had the best post presidential career. That honor for me goes to Clinton. I like him much more out of office.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Harding was one of those presidents no one even remembers, much like Rutherford B. Hayes, the least known of all our presidents.

Some notorious baddies:

Franklin Pierece and Andrew Johnson were notorious for theirstances on slaverys. And as Shadow Boxing pointed, Jackson's treatment of the Native Americans and Seminol Indians was not something we can overlook.

I don't agree with JFK, in fact I'd put him in the Top 15 of best presidents, but as far as latter day 20th century presidents, LBJ rules with an iron fist as the worst. Vietnam, from what I've read, was a bigger mistake than Iraq. We had no purpose being there at all. Call this typical conservative pandering or whatever, but to me Vietnam was way worse than Iraq.

And going by Matt's William Henry Harrison analagy (worst by default), James Garfield was just as bad because he spent his six months in office dying in bed from a gunshot wound.

Nixon is nowhere as bad as everyone says. I'm not denying that Watergate is one of if not the biggest political *****-ups in history, but he did make some good progess, especially as far as Vietnam was concerned. In technical terms, Nixon stopped the draft.

And I disagree with someone who said that Carter had the best post presidential career. That honor for me goes to Clinton. I like him much more out of office.

Anyone who says LBJ was horrible doesn't know sh-- about LBJ.

The Great Society program became Johnson's agenda for Congress in January 1965: aid to education, attack on disease, Medicare, urban renewal, beautification, conservation, development of depressed regions, a wide-scale fight against poverty, control and prevention of crime, and removal of obstacles to the right to vote. Congress, at times augmenting or amending, rapidly enacted Johnson's recommendations. Millions of elderly people found succor through the 1965 Medicare amendment to the Social Security Act.

Under Johnson, the country made spectacular explorations of space in a program he had championed since its start. When three astronauts successfully orbited the moon in December 1968, Johnson congratulated them: "You've taken … all of us, all over the world, into a new era…."

Nevertheless, two overriding crises had been gaining momentum since 1965. Despite the beginning of new anti-poverty and anti-discrimination programs, unrest and rioting in black ghettos troubled the nation. President Johnson steadily exerted his influence against segregation and on behalf of law and order, but there was no early solution. Several changes were made during the Johnson administration to relieve the hostile political atmosphere. In response to the civil rights movement, Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which effectively outlawed most forms of racial segregation, and the Immigration and Nationality Services Act of 1965, which dramatically changed US immigration policy. He also nominated former civil rights attorney Thurgood Marshall, who had argued and won the landmark Supreme Court case Brown v. Board of Education, to the positions of Solicitor General and later Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, making him the first African-American to serve in either capacity.

The other crisis arose from Vietnam. Despite Johnson's efforts to end Communist insurgency and achieve a settlement, fighting continued. Controversy over the war had become acute by the end of March 1968, when he limited the bombing of North Vietnam in order to begin negotiations.

In a surprising move, Johnson withdrew as a candidate for re-election (which candidacy was being seriously challenged by other Democrats). He said he was withdrawing so he could devote his full efforts, unimpeded by politics, to the quest for peace.

 

[Doomed_hero]

Well LBJ was a man stuck in his own bad chioces. He did alot of great things for civil rights and I feel would have been a great President if he hadn't become intangled with Vietnam.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Well LBJ was a man stuck in his own bad chioces. He did alot of great things for civil rights and I feel would have been a great President if he hadn't become intangled with Vietnam.

That was the single only bad decision he ever made, the fact that people only remember him for that is pure uneducated BS he improved this country policy wise more than any other President in this nations history.

 

[The Chairman]

LBJ was suckling off the teet of what Kennedy left. He didn't do anything independently. He couldn't come up with anything on his own. The only good thing I ever remember him doing that was good for civil rights was give MLK the Noble Peace Prize.

 

[JLBats]

LJB actually started up a lot of those programs to distance himself from Kennedy's legacy.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

LBJ was suckling off the teet of what Kennedy left. He didn't do anything independently. He couldn't come up with anything on his own. The only good thing I ever remember him doing that was good for civil rights was give MLK the Noble Peace Prize.

No f---ing way. LBJ was the single best policy maker ever elected President. The Civil Rights act and the Great Society were both completely his...the only thing he inherited from Kennedy was Vietnam...seriously read up on LBJ, it is the biggest myth he was a bad President. This man was so dedicated to policy he made his staff follow him into the bathroom when he needed to go so they could continue talking and writing Policy. This man makes Clinton look like a slacker. He also held the highest approval ratings during his early years in office. If it weren't for Kennedy's dealings with Vietnam, which by the way LBJ was strongly against, he would have probably been remembered as more influential than Lincoln.

from wiki

President Johnson disliked the American military effort in Vietnam, which he had inherited from Kennedy

he called the war his "bit*h mistress"

 

[The Chairman]

from wiki

Which is totally inaccurate at times. But here, I guess it's believable.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Which is totally inaccurate at times. But here, I guess it's believable.

I concur with the evidence in the article...I have a book on LBJ, and the information matches up (by and large)...but obviously I cannot quote from there.

 

[The Chairman]

I still say Johnson (Andrew), Carter, Jackson and Ford are our worst presidents. I'd say Lincoln was the best.

 

[JLBats]

Again, Warren G. Harding. He sucked. He was a literal anatomical taint on the office. **** him.

I hate Warren G. Harding.

 

[chaseter]

Anybody who is on money are all good/ok presidents.

 

[Human Shield]

FDR. Trashed the constitution with policies that still haunt us causing poverty.

Coolidge was the best modern president. No wars, no breaking the constitution, no government growth.

The president should be a small job, not modern day Caesars that people demand.

 

[Matt]

Anyone who says LBJ was horrible doesn't know sh-- about LBJ.

This proves an interesting point. Its not so easy to judge, because where Johnson absolutely failed on a foreign level...his domestic politics were some of the best of all time.

However, it seems Bush has failed both domestically and on a foreign level.

 

[Lackey]

Lincoln one of the worst? You just lost all credabilty.

and you just perfectly proved my point.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

and you just perfectly proved my point.

I'd like to hear this...why is he the worst (among the).

 

[Logan Howlett]

I seriously have no need to justify my stance on Bush as I know that anyone with half a brain can see the HE is missing more than half. And for those who support him and his outlandish, arrogant, indignant, DUMB ASS behaivor, i already know that you and those like you would not be sued in you opinion even if he launched nuclear war heads at every populated country in the world! But thats ok, soon enough he will have started a civil war in which all americans will be forced to stand with him or fight against him, and half of our nation will be destroyed......either that or he decides to declare world war, and even then we will lose the majority of our allies and find ourselves along with half of the world will be wiped out of existance. But thats ok, you continue to support this coniving, beer swilling, egomanicale, self proclaimed deity, mongoloid all ya want, I can stop ya and I wont try to argue with you, but while you ****ers are under the supresion of a redneck dictator, i myself will be kickin it in Japan or Switzerland waitin for the gunfire to die down and everyone to kill themselves.


............God how I wish for that man to eat more pretzels..........we almost had our solution the first time!