The Wrestling Thread Invented Canada! - - - Part 48

[Keyser Soze]

It's interesting that Cena - who may have been seen as something of a soft touch in his promos due to his more kid-friendly style - was able to so savagely dismantle The Rock on the mic. No wonder they've kept CM Punk away from him!

Is The Rock due back on Raw next week? If so, I definitely agree they need more face-to-face promo time to play off of each other.

 

[Metallo]

Cena didn't get "owned" at all.. If Rock would have kept it where he was originally going.. Maybe.. But he turned it into a ******** riddled mess that Cena came out and fixed.

I also call BS on "no one wants to see Cena.." mostly because even the guys here who claim to hate him would cheer him again if he was Dr of Thuganomics Cena again... Heck, some just want him to have more edge.

If Cena came out every Monday and act like he did last night and last week... He'd be cheered by even the "hardest" male fan.

If no one wants to see Cena then why do even his haters turn out in big numbers at the big PPV's to see him lose. If no one wanted to see him at all they'd be totally uninterested.

Even a negative response to a wrestler is better than no response at all.

As for Rock owning Cena Rock looked directionless out there. Half that stuff had nothing to do with Cena and it was littered with the same kind of corny jokes Rocks been doing for years. Yes I liked poop jokes when I was 5. Cena meanwhile was focused on the task at hand: the feud with the Rock

After Cena came out Rock FINALLY made some kind of progress in this build up. They weren't going to let him talk for an hour before he got to the point.

How on Earth can Cena respond to the fact the WWE book him on top? He doesn't own the company, he didn't make it PG and he doesn't decide how his angles play out, "Well gee Rock, why not ask Vince and the booking team as they are still in charge just like they were in your day", because really that's the only comment he can make.

It was also a stupid point because while Rock went on his beloved twitter the other day to say he's baffled about the boys not understanding the business, he clearly doesn't either, the loud mouthed older fans in the live audience do not dictate WWE's direction, CM Punk isn't getting the push he's getting because the live crowds all seem to love him, he's getting it because he's the only guy in 6 years to out-sell John Cena in merchandise.

Cena is on top because he sells and makes the company money, Vince doesn't leave him there for ****s and giggles, he keeps him there because he is money, did no one read how much annual revenue he is responsbile for in WWE? it's a rather large sum of money.

Exactly. Rock sounds like a hypocrite with the line about no one liking Cena. If nobody liked him he wouldn't be one of the top merchandise sellers in WWE history? Apparently only behind Stone Cold. If true that basically means he's outsold the Rock.

The people and their money dictate that Cena is on top. Same way it was for Hogan and Austin.

The business is about putting asses in seats and making money. Rock and Cena have both done that.

It's interesting that Cena - who may have been seen as something of a soft touch in his promos due to his more kid-friendly style - was able to so savagely dismantle The Rock on the mic. No wonder they've kept CM Punk away from him!

Is The Rock due back on Raw next week? If so, I definitely agree they need more face-to-face promo time to play off of each other.

Punk doesn't need to rely on verbal crutches. Rocks whole promo style is wrapped around standup routine insults. He'd rip the Rock to shreds in a legit serious promo. Cena didn't NEED to call the Rock a b*tch. If you take away Rocks usual verbal repertoire what does he REALLY have left?

Tell him "ok Rock get serious and run Cena down without using words like b*tch and ass." Cena didn't need to.

 

[Wheels]

To me kung pow ***** is not as funny as fruitie pebbles or yabba dabba *****. Rock's yum rocket line on twitter was lame too.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I thought the Rock completely shredded Cena tonight, just as he's been doing every time they are together on camera. I cracked up at Rock calling Cena a newer version of Rocky Maivia: the babyface who can't elicit support. It's so true.

I actually feel sorry for Cena. He's been doing some of the best work of his erratic career, but he's been paired with a larger-than-life-personality who dwarfs him. If Rock had told the crowd to stick their fingers up their noses and chant, "gloopy-glopy, na-na, pee-pee, wink-waa", they would have done it. Cena start throwing money into the crowd and still not get a Rocky-type reaction.

Did we watch the same promo? I saw The Rock come out and ramble aimlessly for a while, then John Cena came out and succinctly skewered him, casually walking away and leaving The Rock a flustered mess barely able to string his catchphrases together.

 

[Metallo]

Rock's notion that the crowd didn't expect to see him more than 6 times a year is pure horse****, just read back through the wrestling threads from last year "Why not give Rock a title run, he can surely make a few defenses" yeah all that was from all the smarts who knew he was really only going to appear once every 4 months, I don't think so.

Bottom line is Cena swaggered out, hit Rock with some ammo and swaggered back, Rock got all cranky and couldn't even get his limp comeback out even though it was just the same lines he's been putting out for years. Ice cold delivery > stuterring and looking like a deer in the headlights.

Remember that guy that I was arguing with who said Rock hadn't missed more than 3 weeks at a time and he could show up maybe once a month or so?

I said it wasn't gonna happen with Rocks schedule. I got proven right. Some people were CLEARLY thinking Rock might be around more than he has been.

To me kung pow ***** is not as funny as fruitie pebbles or yabba dabba *****. Rock's yum rocket line on twitter was lame too.

I mean what the hell does that even MEAN? Kung Pow b****? Fruity pebbles makes sense because of Cenas ridiculous rainbow of shirts.

Kung Pow b**** is some nonsense that kids would laugh at because it bizarrely strings kung pow together with a swear word.

It makes no f***n sense though. Its something a child would say while Rock is pushing 40. He can do better than that. Lamest insult I've heard in a LOOOONG time.

 

[Metallo]

The Rock Insults Cena Fans After RAW, Big WWE Announcement This Morning
By Marc Middleton
Feb 28, 2012 - 7:24:58 AM

- WWE is teasing a major announcement for 10am EST this morning:

"WWE's Board of Directors has just informed WWE.com that there will be a change in leadership for next week’s Raw SuperShow and SmackDown. The Board’s official statement on the futures of SmackDown General Manager Theodore Long (@GMSmackDown) and Interim Raw General Manager John Laurinaitis (@WWERawGM) will be released exclusively on WWE.com tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. ET."

- The cameras continued rolling after last night's WWE RAW Supershow in Portland, Oregon as The Rock kept cutting a promo on John Cena. WWE's website posted footage of Rock's post-RAW rant including Rock picking on Cena fans in the crowd. Rock told the fan to "rise above these nuts." Rock's promo ended and John Cena came out to beat Kane in the dark main event.

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe...er_RAW_Big_WWE_Announcement_This_Morning.html

Maybe Rock was legit angry. He basically told a group of mostly young children to rise above his nuts? What the...?

As for the change in leadership I wonder if they'll bring a third party in to run things. Foley and HBK are free and have experience! Hopefully its not Vince or HHH back in charge.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I know Rock talked for at least ten before Cena comes out and then it's another five to six minutes. I think 15.

I looked at my clock when Raw finished and it said 4:19am, usually Raw is finished between 4:05 and 4:07.

I don't know if this promo was designed or not but it certainly got people talking. Any solo promos at this point would be a complete waste. I'm hoping we get a Piper Pit( interesting he was mentioned ) or a JR sit down interview. They could even do a Cutting Edge ( since he's going into the Hall of Fame , it would be appropriate).

Oh a Piper's Pit with Rock and Cena and live mics could be gold.

wow watch promo again the second cena says wrist promo line rock got very close to cena and his face got red and very flustered and he tensed up 53second mark

Yeah you can really see it there, the crowd don't respond to the line but The Rock stops dead and moves right into Cena's face.

Jim Ross‏@JRsBBQReply
@JohnCena calling @TheRock a "SOB" tonite shocked me & made me uncomfortable. Sounded more personal than in a professional context...IMO

Mick Foley‏@realMickFoley
That promo felt kind of uncomfortable to watch. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Maybe @RealDDP can tell me. BANG!

It has defintiely stirred things up for this feud, I hope Austin chimes in with his view.

It would be really interesting if all Cena's pent up aggression was being taken out on the Rock. He should be careful though , Rock did look like he was about to swing.

I doubt Cena is scared of Rock or vice versa, and Rock can't back out of the match as all the contracts will be signed and both are pros, at the end of the day they'll give the fans a show.

Agreed. Separately they are just retreading the same ground. Together things get raw (pun intended) and they have each other to play off of directly.

When he has Cena out there Rock can't only goof with the crowd. He has to talk directly to Cena more. Ditto with Cena.

I think bullets idea to do a Piper's Pit would be inspired, who better than the original maverick to stir the pot further.

Exactly. Rock sounds like a hypocrite with the line about no one liking Cena. If nobody liked him he wouldn't be one of the top merchandise sellers in WWE history? Apparently only behind Stone Cold. If true that basically means he's outsold the Rock.

The people and their money dictate that Cena is on top. Same way it was for Hogan and Austin.

The business is about putting asses in seats and making money. Rock and Cena have both done that.

On the two occassions Rock went to make serious points this is the one I felt he slipped up on. We can all argue about the "I'm never leaving" line but at least he addressed it maturely, and his point about no one fighting for him was going well until he tried to switch to him fighting for the people because they all hate Cena.

 

[Wheels]

Hope they don't do something lame like have the GMs swap brands.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Remember that guy that I was arguing with who said Rock hadn't missed more than 3 weeks at a time and he could show up maybe once a month or so?

I said it wasn't gonna happen with Rocks schedule. I got proven right. Some people were CLEARLY thinking Rock might be around more than he has been.

Yep, I think all were smart enough to know he wouldn't be appearing every week or even month, but some genuinely did think he'd be around for clusters of time as opposed to the sparse appearences. I mean in the build up to Survivor Series I think he only made one live show.

 

[Metallo]

A Pipers Pit would be great because He would push Rock and Cenas buttons to get the the heart of the issue instead of wasting time with stupid retread insults. Piper THRIVES on controversy.

Piper can also match and maybe even outmatch both Rock and Cena on the mic so he's not going to get sidetracked.

Roddy's last two big promos involving Cena were absolute gold and I'd love to see what Rock would do when confronted by a talker like Piper.



I hope WWE does a big pre fight special before Mania. Maybe 30 minutes or an hour covering the entire Rock/John Cena issue from its inception to now. Go all the way back to what Cena said about Rock in interviews before his return.

They could get past and present stars like Austin, Jericho, HHH, Orton, Ziggler, Punk, Foley etc to discuss their feelings on the matter and how they feel about both men's opinions on each other. Maybe Meen Gene could host it.

They've done similar things in the past only not as long.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Which Announced WrestleMania Match Are You Most Looking Forward To?

• The Rock vs John Cena
  
  34.5%
• Triple H vs The Undertaker
  
  32.4%
• CM Punk vs Chris Jericho
  
  30%
• Daniel Bryan vs Sheamus
  
  3.1%

Poll from the front of Wrestlezone, Vince has got to be happy that the top 3 matches are only seperated by 4.5% in interest, it shows the build for them all is working.

 

[Incrediblejeff]

They really need to build on Sheamus vs Daniel Bryan more.

 

[The Sage]

They really need to build on Sheamus vs Daniel Bryan more.

I was thinking the same. In keeping with the Reality era, Shamus could mention he got to the top because HBK was his mentor. Bryan could talk about Shamus kissing up to HHH and holding his weights at the gym.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I'm sad that Daniel Bryan VS Sheamus isn't more anticipated, but to be honest it's hard to blame the crowd with how little build there's been for it.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I was thinking the same. In keeping with the Reality era, Shamus could mention he got to the top because HBK was his mentor. Bryan could talk about Shamus kissing up to HHH and holding his weights at the gym.

I don't necessarily think they need to go TEH SHOOTZ~! route, but one bit of reality I think should totally be injected is having them mention that this match was supposed to happen at Wrestlemania LAST year, but got bumped off the card. Bill this as the rise of two of tomorrow's brightest stars, yada yada.

 

[Hunter Rider]

WWE.com made the following announcement Tuesday morning:


"Both Raw and SmackDown are about to get extreme makeovers. In an effort to help determine which General Manager should control both shows, the WWE Board of Directors has decided to switch control of each show next week. SmackDown GM Theodore Long will take control of Monday night’s Raw while Raw GM John Laurinaitis takes the reins of next Friday’s SmackDown.

The decision comes one week after Laurinaitis announced at Elimination Chamber that he will seek control over both shows, bolstered by flattering testimonials by Superstars Mark Henry, Christian and Alberto Del Rio. A perturbed Long made it clear to Laurinaitis that he’s not about to take the threat to his position lying down."

 

[Hunter Rider]

Thanks Hunter Haha funny how that worked out right?! Yea man my schedule has just been insane so I haven't had much time to watch any wrestling or get on here. I haven't watched a full RAW or Impact in weeks!

Here's Chael's tweet

Just wanted to bring this back up as it got lost in the Rock/Cena debate last night. I hope you get a chance to watch more soon Man as things have been going pretty well on both shows and TNA are building Roode vs Sting before they do the Roode vs Storm title match at Lockdown. My only complaint is Sting is doing that insane schtick which I'm personally not a fan of.

Haha! Chael keeping it kayfabe.

 

[Wheels]

That's not a big announcement. They could've just mentioned the swap on Smackdown.

 

[Nemi]

Remember that guy that I was arguing with who said Rock hadn't missed more than 3 weeks at a time and he could show up maybe once a month or so?

I said it wasn't gonna happen with Rocks schedule. I got proven right. Some people were CLEARLY thinking Rock might be around more than he has been.




I mean what the hell does that even MEAN? Kung Pow b****? Fruity pebbles makes sense because of Cenas ridiculous rainbow of shirts.

Kung Pow b**** is some nonsense that kids would laugh at because it bizarrely strings kung pow together with a swear word.

It makes no f***n sense though. Its something a child would say while Rock is pushing 40. He can do better than that. Lamest insult I've heard in a LOOOONG time.

I remember that guy.

And yeah Rocks insults have never made much sense to me. I remember him calling someone in the NWO a "butter biscuit *****'' and deciding that he just calls people whatever rolls off the tongue nice. He's not that great with serious promos and the fact that he spends half his time defending the ''never leave'' again doesn't help either. I think he said that without and has been eating those words ever since.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Dr. Evil]

The Rock may continue to do this because of the fact that he probably knows he won't ever come close to winning the Big O (Oscar)

 

[SpideyFan866]

Something I really just now noticed is that WrestleMania XXVIII's theme is really the end of an era.

We have CM Punk vs Chris Jericho, each arguably the best in each of the respective "eras" and with each trying to prove they are the best.

Then you have Triple H vs Undertaker, the "last" of a dying breed and the last of an era both fighting and both ready to end each other and their "era".

Then of course, Cena vs Rock. The top babyfaces in both there "eras" and the most popular in each of their respective era. Cena is fighting for the little guy, the newer wrestlers who can't get over because special attraction/veterans hog the mian event. The Rock is fighting for his right to, well, who knows.

The fact is, WrestleMania is truly shaping up to be Era vs Era with likely the older era, which many of us fans complain about intruding on the current and keeping younger wrestlers from getting over, finally ending.

 

[Wheels]

Damien Sandow vs Richie Steamboat FCW 15 championship match 2/26/12. [YT]smAU0cn_AIY[/YT]

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

To me kung pow ***** is not as funny as fruitie pebbles or yabba dabba *****. Rock's yum rocket line on twitter was lame too.

I got sick of Rock's threading **** real fast.

 

[Dr. Evil]

The Rock bounces back and forth between Kayfabe and real life, with his Cena bashing and then his next tweet he congratulating Octavia Spencer on her Oscar win.