The Wrestling Thread is Giving a Biblical Ass-Beating at Night of Champions

[Van Petrol]

The current Corporation 2.0 storyline is some of the best storytelling and booking the the E has put out in years, and it's still continuing to be impressive. Just be patient and enjoy the ride, the payoff will come eventually, and if they continue down the right raod, it is going to be huge.

 

[WildChild]

The current Corporation 2.0 storyline is some of the best storytelling and booking the the E has put out in years, and it's still continuing to be impressive. Just be patient and enjoy the ride, the payoff will come eventually, and if they continue down the right raod, it is going to be huge.

I sure do hope so. I've seen several storylines that started off great and fizzle out by the end.*cough*Nexus,CM punk leaving with the belt*cough*. The last step is the most important to me.I just hope they give D-bry that huge win at the right time.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

It seems to me like people not knowing what they want. They ask for a dominant heel who doesn't really cheat to win, and now Orton is that for the most part, and for a face who has real odds to overcome instead of being a Cena type who just plows through everyone, and now we finally have that and people want Bryan to be getting over on the heels already. Have patience.

I for one am loving watching Bryan's struggle against the new Corporation. Heel HHH is what I've been begging for for years, and he plays the condescending *****ebag heel authority figure perfectly. Just different enough to be different from Vince yet still just as sinister. Orton is playing the company sponsored champ perfectly. Bryan is the perfect anti-WWE typical star role.

Let the heels continue to strike him down until he finally wins the big one again. For me, ideally itd be at Hell in a Cell. Let Bryan destroy Orton in the cell where no one can help him.

Oh man, thinking about it... Daniel Bryan and Randy Orton in the Cell, in addition to all the storyline aspects playing out... there's so much "YES!!!" in that scenario.

Because you say no one can help Orton.

But people would help Orton.

And all hell would break loose. And people would help Bryan. And he's YES!!! Randy all the way off the top of the cage. And it would be glorious.

And then that could lead into Survivor Series, where all the people who helped Daniel Bryan could square off against all the people who helped Orton. And it would be wonderous.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Stephanie is always game to have substances dumped on her, she'd be a good choice for an opening salvo.

I don't see WWE doing a B*kk*ke angle Pinky.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I don't see WWE doing a B*kk*ke angle Pinky.

Hey, they kind of did it to Ziggler, and look at where he is now!

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

I don't see WWE doing a B*kk*ke angle Pinky.

WWE: Where incest is ok, insisted upon even, but a ******* is going to far.

 

[Lobo]

Just came across this on yt. I'd totally forgotten about this. But, it just shows why Christian went on to be one of my all time favorites

 

[Dr. Evil]

Matt Morgan recently spoke to Raj Giri of WrestlingInc.com and talked about a return to WWE.

I recently interviewed former WWE and TNA Superstar Matt Morgan, who left TNA earlier this summer. During the interview, which will be published in its entirety this week, I asked Morgan about the possibility of a WWE return. "I think it's very possible," Morgan replied. "I think I went out and I did what I was asked [after his WWE release]. I went out and got the experience that I would need to get as far as main event experience. More importantly, I think I've matured into the, not just the character, but the man I am today. I'm about to be a first time father on top of it. When I was first in WWE, I was a functioning addict. I was a painkiller abuser. I've been sober for seven years now. It was a Godsend that I was able to leave WWE when I did because that's when I was able to go out and get myself clean." Morgan also discussed the current product, and noted that there were a lot of potential new opponents for him in the company. "I think with that company there's so many fresh matchups for me. There's so many endless possibilities. That company's really cooking right now on all cylinders. Triple H done an amazing job. I just watched RAW the other night, the thing that he's got right now with Randy [Orton], as well as Daniel [Bryan], is absolutely perfect. Perfect. And all the people that are b---hing and moaning going, 'ah, they shouldn't disrespect him by calling him small and s--t like that. They ruined his moment [winning the WWE Championship at SummerSlam].' That's the whole point! That's the hook! The fans out there that think he's never going to get higher - as far as reaction - than he was at that moment, you should see the reaction he gets when he finally climbs that hill and conquers. It's going to be something that, instead of maybe for eight months of him being super duper over, it's something that they're trading for years and years and years of drawing power. As him as the top dude, the top dog. My hat's off, he's done an amazing job. "Between that, the Performance Center and just the overall general direction company is going in, at the moment is very cool, very exciting. Like I said, I like the opportunity for all the fresh match ups that are out there for me. There's a brand new roster than when I was there." The first part of our three part interview with Matt Morgan will be posted on this site this Wednesday afternoon.
Read more at http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news...sibility-of-a-wwe-return/#y27X3bhTV26OxWHV.99

 

[OnTheAir]

On this day in 1995, WCW Monday Nitro premiered on TNT...the Monday Night Wars begin.

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[sweetre15]

DETROIT, MI - Dolph Ziggler, whose real name is Nicholas Theodore "Nick" Nemeth, is a 33-year-old WWE superstar who's tired of being patient.

This Cleveland native wants another shot at the WWE World Heavyweight Championship, and he wants it now.

Ziggler's previous stints with the belt were brief: 69 days this year and a whopping 11-minute, 23-second run in 2011.

Given the unpredictable nature of the WWE's "Night of Champions" pay-per-view event, anything could happen to Ziggler's title hopes when the Sept. 15 spectacle takes over Detroit's Joe Louis Arena.

"Every time we go, you almost get that Red Wings game night feel to it," said Ziggler, in a phone interview with MLive Detroit. "It's just such a great crowd in Detroit; it mirrors that (Red Wings) atmosphere, it builds.

"Live events on TV create a special kind of night; let alone a pay-per-view with all these kinds of storylines. It's so great; everyone seems to be just on the edge of their seats."

MLive Detroit caught up with Ziggler to get his thoughts on a variety of topics pertaining to the wrestling business and found out he's been a lifelong Red Wings fan.

Ziggler also shared his thoughts on the possibility of Detroit getting another Wrestlemania at Ford Field in 2016.

Where do you think things stand with your career right now knowing you're in your early 30s and still gunning for that elusive WWE World Heavyweight Championship?

"I've made it clear; I'm not patient at all - several times. I've been very vocal about my position on the card and in the company. I'm not trying to say 'Hey, everybody sucks and I'm great!' But I love doing this, and at some point you go 'OK, It's not my time right now and I got to figure something out' And when it's time, that's when I must go out there and make as huge of an impact as I can and let everyone know 'I dare you to follow that, I dare you try something better.'

And when they don't (counter or match what I'm doing in the ring) I'm very outspoken about it and it can get me into very hot water (with the company). Then you never know where we're going. Everybody can be just so outspoken about taller guys, and guys like Randy Orton being the face of the WWE, the WWE Championship. I dare you to put me in a back alley with Randy Orton or someone like that. I guarantee I'm not afraid of someone taller."

Any fond memories of Detroit?

"Well, I'm from Cleveland, Ohio. And I'll tell you a real quick thing: we didn't have a pro hockey team when I was growing up so I adopted the Red Wings as my hockey team just so I could, you know, be amused and enjoy playoff hockey every single year. I really get into it. Detroit is my team. Eventually we got a hockey team in Columbus, but it wasn't the same. I stuck with Detroit. Growing up in Cleveland, the first time I went to a WWE event, Cleveland didn't even have an arena. The Cavaliers were playing at the Richfield Coliseum. I would go out there. My dad took me when I was five years old to see a WWE live event. We had nosebleed seats, and I could barely see, but I still had a blast. That's when I wanted to be a WWE superstar. When I was five years old, when I was in first grade, I started wrestling. I ended up wrestling through high school and college, and of course, the WWE now."

There's speculation Detroit could get another Wrestlemania at Ford Field in 2016. Would you like to see that happen? What does the city's wrestling tradition mean to you?

"It's huge for us to give back to the fans that whole week (of Wrestlemania). We make it a fun time, we hang out, have people ask questions, the whole thing. In Detroit, there's awesome tradition there. Every year we wait to hear where it's going to be next. I'm really excited about New Orleans. The whole Wrestlemania experience is getting bigger and bigger. Every year it seems like we're adding another day of appearances, autograph signings, Q and As, you name it.

Detroit is known for its tradition, but also for its great, rowdy crowds. I remember ... it must've been the Royal Rumble ... and Rob Van Dam (from Battle Creek) came out, and I heard (while being next in line) an ovation like I never had heard before. You just know that city is so great that they are going to get behind you and enjoy everything."

What drives you to stay in this business knowing your patience has been tested all these years?

"I'm always trying to make myself a better sports entertainer. I'm always trying to find out why people cheer at certain times. I love this, I love doing this. I have no desire to switch companies or go to UFC or anything like that. As of right now, working on the entertainment aspect is my favorite thing to do, my favorite hobby right now (he does stand-up comedy on the side). I'm very ambitious, and I'm very outspoken about where I should be and where I need to be in the WWE. I love that I've never been one handed anything - ever. If I would've have been handed things, I don't know if I would've been able to enjoy it as much. Every time I turn a corner, it seems like the rug is being taken underneath me. It's like 'Hey, great job!' and then nothing. It's like 'Hey, wow, look what you can do!' and I'll say 'Thanks, boss!' and then there's nothing. And so, it's hard (to stay upbeat), but you have to deal with it and it makes me hungrier every single day knowing that I've scratched and clawed for everything I've earned in this business."

What's it's like doing stand-up comedy as a WWE wrestler?

"I enjoy it, it's a blast! If I wasn't funny, people would go 'Next!' or 'Get outta here!' But they seem to enjoy themselves - just like any other comedy crowd. I want them to have a good time and enjoy themselves. You're not going to get Dolph Ziggler out there (on the stand-up) stage; you're going to get a stand-up comedian and not someone out there to steal you're girlfriend. But I probably will after (laughing)."

 

[Lobo]

Every Ziggler interview just makes me a bigger fan.

 

[sweetre15]

Dixie Carter has got to be the MOST clueless money mark I've ever seen...Read this interview:

On signing MMA Stars such as Quinton Rampage Jackson and Tito Ortiz:

"I’ve gotten criticism for bringing these guys in but when you’re looking for talent and there’s only two teams, where do you go to get your star players from? You’re going to mostly look to each other and then every once in a while, you’ve got to build your own talent which takes a lot of time.

So here are two guys that are major superstars. Both come from wrestling backgrounds, and both are training their butts off right now to be in the ring. I think it’s a great way of trying to find some superstar talent and not having to take so many years to try to grow somebody’s stardom. Both of these guys are so well-known and they love professional wrestling. They're committed and they're training, and I’m excited for people to see their potential. I think it’s a great way of looking for new talent, and talent that have never been seen before in our world."

On the recent wave of releases from the company:

"Well, I think the fact that you let talent go is not any indication whatsoever of any problems. I think part of our problem is that we didn’t turn the roster often enough. We only have one show so if we don’t have people on the show all the time. we are not in the position to have them sitting at home and being paid and not working. I think we have to get some more programming.

We have to be able to do that to where we can shift and make talent appear fresh, but going to another show versus sitting people at home. I think it’s been a long time coming. I know that our competitor lets people go constantly. We had not done it in a long time, and I think because we had not done it in a long time, that it raised some eyebrows.

It’s time for us to bring in some new faces, and we've got some exciting faces that will be appearing in the next several months. It’ll freshen things up somewhat. It’ll freshen up the people who are still on the roster and it’ll give the fans new and unique matches that they’ve never seen before. Like always, I’m sure some of the people that are no longer with us will return at some point – I’m hopeful for that. I think it’s a good healthy state of where we’re going and how we need to grow."

On the Maximum Impact 2014 Tour:

"I’m so excited. You know the Hydro had some excitement with the fire and everything. I’m thrilled to be able to say we are on schedule and we are going to have this show. The ticket sales are going great. This will be by far one of our largest UK shows, and by far our biggest Glasgow show. I know there are people coming in from all over Europe and even some from the United States to see this show. It’s going to be a very exciting night."

On Bully Ray and Aces & Eights:

"Bully Ray in my opinion has really stepped up and become a formidable singles champion. He’s done outstanding work. A lot of the young guys have come along under the Aces & Eights banner very quickly. I love the reformation of the Main Event Mafia; I love the younger members in there stepping up to represent our company. I think there’s going to be some interesting TV in the coming weeks."

http://www.tnainsider.com/view/tna-...mma-fighters-releases-bully-ray-and-more-r329

I'll reply with my rebuttal to the things that fired me up.
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[sweetre15]

On signing MMA Stars such as Quinton Rampage Jackson and Tito Ortiz:

"I’ve gotten criticism for bringing these guys in but when you’re looking for talent and there’s only two teams, where do you go to get your star players from? You’re going to mostly look to each other and then every once in a while, you’ve got to build your own talent which takes a lot of time.

Ok...

Problem Number 1: The "star players" that you're hiring have done LITTLE to NOTHING for this company as far as bringing in more of an audience. Jeff Hardy, Mr. Anderson, Chavo Guerrero, Hulk Hogan etc. Not only that but Rampage and Tito Ortiz ARE NO LONGER RELEVANT in the world of MMA, hence why they are in Bellator:Land of the Irrelevance AND why there appearances have not boosted ratings on the TV shows and why the audience could care less when Tito Ortiz came in. Just admit that they are on the show because Spike wants them there to promote Bellator and you'll look less silly.

Problem Number 2: "EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU BUILD YOU'RE OWN TALENT!?" Dixie Carter, are you f-cking serious?

Doesnt matter how much "time" it takes, build your OWN DAMN STARS instead of knocking them down the card anytime some "legend" etc comes around just so you can give them the keys to the kingdom. Is it a surprise that people refer to TNA as "WWE's laughably bad competition" when the person running the company thinks this way? Maybe if you took the time to build stars instead of taking shortcuts then the company would be in better shape than it is in.

So here are two guys that are major superstars. Both come from wrestling backgrounds, and both are training their butts off right now to be in the ring. I think it’s a great way of trying to find some superstar talent and not having to take so many years to try to grow somebody’s stardom. Both of these guys are so well-known and they love professional wrestling. They're committed and they're training, and I’m excited for people to see their potential. I think it’s a great way of looking for new talent, and talent that have never been seen before in our world."

Yeah because this worked for WCW so well, right Dixie? Taking shortcuts by hiring older MMA fighters that aren't currently relevant in the mainstream media these days and HAVE NOT given the company any more exposure or attention than it had before because you and TNA brass are TOO F-CKING LAZY to yes you guessed it BUILD NEW STARS. This line of thinking will be the downfall of this company I definitely feel it. No matter how much spin you add to these decisions it's dumb because it'll benefit Bellator NOT TNA...Smarten up Dixie

"Well, I think the fact that you let talent go is not any indication whatsoever of any problems. I think part of our problem is that we didn’t turn the roster often enough. We only have one show so if we don’t have people on the show all the time. we are not in the position to have them sitting at home and being paid and not working. I think we have to get some more programming.

We have to be able to do that to where we can shift and make talent appear fresh, but going to another show versus sitting people at home. I think it’s been a long time coming.

I actually dont have a problem with this statement

I know that our competitor lets people go constantly. We had not done it in a long time, and I think because we had not done it in a long time, that it raised some eyebrows.

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Damn right it raised some eyebrows. The difference is you guys are releasing talent when you ALREADY have a super thin roster. Last time I checked WWE has more than 10 wrestlers appear on IMPACT every week. Not to mention, you guys arent even taking the most logical solution which is....Releasing Hulk Hogan, the highest paid figure on the roster with the most stroke that has done NOTHING to promote your company, done NOTHING for the ratings, Cannot work a match anymore because of how beat down his body is, and has been making decisions that are hurting the company alongside his partner-in-crime Eric Bischoff.

It’s time for us to bring in some new faces, and we've got some exciting faces that will be appearing in the next several months. It’ll freshen things up somewhat. It’ll freshen up the people who are still on the roster and it’ll give the fans new and unique matches that they’ve never seen before. Like always, I’m sure some of the people that are no longer with us will return at some point – I’m hopeful for that. I think it’s a good healthy state of where we’re going and how we need to grow."

I definitely hope that ends up being the case but with you're recent "Surprises"......forgive me if I'm just a bit cynical

 

[Wheels]

Your young guys in Aces and Eights ain't doing jack, Dixie. Garrett and Wes are wastes of roster space. It's taking too long for your MMA guys to get in a position to work a match. Shamrmock appeared during the build up to WM 13 and had his first match two PPV's later.You don't put these guys on TV unless they're almost ready. I blame Spike for this Tito/Rampage garbage fot the most part. TNA is just a lead in to their pet project just like the original ECW was.

 

[sweetre15]

Your young guys in Aces and Eights ain't doing jack, Dixie. Garrett and Wes are wastes of roster space. It's taking to long for your MMA guys too get in a position to work a match. Shamrock appeared during the build up to WM 13 and had his first match two PPV's later.You don't put these guys on TV unless they're almost ready. I blame Spike for this Tito/Rampage garbage fot the most part. TNA is just a lead in to their pet project just like the original ECW was.

Antman with the victory post!! I agree for the most part but Dixie Carter should stop trying so hard with the PR spin and yes Garrett Bischoff and Wes Brisco are wastes that are only there because of their last names and no other reason. They can't talk, have bland looks, and can't wrestle.

 

[The Sage]

- Mick Foley wrote the following on his Facebook page about Monday's RAW:

"DON'T DO IT, BIG SHOW!

I noticed that there was some negative feedback concerning last night's Raw - some people feel like the Triple H/Orton/Shield faction has assumed too much power, too soon. But let me ask you this: how many of you found yourselves talking to your TV screen..actually TALKING to your TV screens, saying things like "no, Big Show, don't do it!" I know I was..and I don't talk to my screen all that often.

The look in Show's eyes after he KO's Daniel Bryan was just heartbreaking. I believe he, along with Daniel, Punk and Heyman, are all embarking on some pretty deep trips into the human mind. I don't know where these trips will lead, or what they'll find when they get there, but my guess is it's going to make for some captivating television."

http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/380306059.php

 

[Wheels]

All the good young guys are going to WWE. When did TNA lose the ability to sign these guys? You'd think limited schedule would appeal to some of them.

 

[sweetre15]

All the good young guys are going to WWE. When did TNA lose the ability to sign these guys? You'd think limited schedule would appeal to some of them.

Which is why TNA should make an effort to not only revamp developmental but start looking for guys currently on the Amateur wrestling circuits, have athletic backgrounds etc, as well as looking in ROH, NJPW, SHIMMER, SHINE, PWG, CMLL etc etc

Wouldn't hurt to get ahold of younger guys like Amazing Red either.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[E-Man]

All the good young guys are going to WWE. When did TNA lose the ability to sign these guys? You'd think limited schedule would appeal to some of them.

All the issues with TNA being...well TNA has something to do with that. Plus that interview with Dixie shows that she's pretty stupid when it comes to wrestling, so I can see some young guys thinking that they would rather avoid TNA altogether regardless of the tv exposure.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Your young guys in Aces and Eights ain't doing jack, Dixie. Garrett and Wes are wastes of roster space. It's taking too long for your MMA guys to get in a position to work a match. Shamrmock appeared during the build up to WM 13 and had his first match two PPV's later.You don't put these guys on TV unless they're almost ready. I blame Spike for this Tito/Rampage garbage fot the most part. TNA is just a lead in to their pet project just like the original ECW was.

Also it took only 4 weeks from the time he returned to his first WWE match in 8 years for Brock Lesnar.

And his last WWE match was amazing.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[sweetre15]

Sami Zayn is a f-cking beast........He managed to get people to say "THIS IS AWESOME!!" and do a dueling chant during a JACK SWAGGER MATCH lol. I thought that wasn't possible since blind people normally dont want to see Swagger. Overall though this week's NXT episode was pretty solid and did a good job of building up it's new set of angles with Summer Rae/Paige/Sasha, Graves and Neville/The Ascensions, a tease to what Leo Kruger is up to, Alexander Rusev/Mason Ryan and of course Sami Zayn's rise that's taken NXT by a storm.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

looks better as a brunette.

But Jesus Christ, someone needs to lay off the photoshop.