The Wrestling Thread is supposed to be cold, it’s gazpacho! - Part 111

[TX85]

As a reference/nod to Evolution I hope Randy goes clean shaven/let's his hair grow out a bit and goes back to using"Burning In My Light"as his theme

 

[OnTheAir]

Also, I think a heel turn would be interesting for Kofi Kingston, although I don't know how it would work unless they give him a gimmick similar to the Nation of Domination.

I'd like for him to be a heel like he was way back pre-WWE. There's a heel promo of him on YouTube somewhere. A little 2-dimensional, but I liked it.

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[Wheels]

Someone has to say it.

John Cena got his ****ing head kicked in.

 

[TX85]

I wonder IF Cena will say a goodbye speech to open Raw before leaving for a while or sometime during the show in a solo segment

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Someone has to say it.

John Cena got his ****ing head kicked in.

By a Boma Ye.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I see that Natalya is the one with all of the rage issues this week on Total Divas.

 

[cherokeesam]

I don't see the African-American demographic rallying around Darren Young. With or without his recent press coverage, the guy's just not gifted enough in the ring. Not terrible, but not particularly gifted. He also hasn't shown himself to be particularly charismatic. Maybe he just hasn't had the opportunity, but up to this point, I certainly haven't seen it. WWE wants a star to present to my fellow African-Americans and, of the current roster, Big E probably will be the one who gets the rocket strapped to his back.

Titus is a possibility as well.

However, what WWE needs is someone who can go in the ring. Someone who could hang with Bryan or Punk in a 25-minute match. Shelton had the in-ring talent to be that guy, but lacked the mic skills. Kofi still could be that guy, but needs a gimmick change. A heel turn and repackaging would do him a world of good. After a nice run as a heel, have him turn face again and maybe they'd have the star they are looking for. But Kofi under his current faux-Jamaican gimmick just reeks of mid-card.

Darren Young definitely lacks the in-ring skills, and probably even the mic skills, to be a true superstar; but I wouldn't underestimate the vox populi in this case. Just as the people elevated Daniel Bryan to an unlikely stardom (and the guys in the back room probably never saw it coming), they're probably very likely to do that to Young as well. This is already getting mainstream media attention, because it's hip and trendy to do a coming-out story in unlikely venues. In just this weekend alone, Darren Young has probably become a permanent blip on pop-culture radar.

 

[Specter313]

Darren Young definitely lacks the in-ring skills, and probably even the mic skills, to be a true superstar; but I wouldn't underestimate the vox populi in this case. Just as the people elevated Daniel Bryan to an unlikely stardom (and the guys in the back room probably never saw it coming), they're probably very likely to do that to Young as well. This is already getting mainstream media attention, because it's hip and trendy to do a coming-out story in unlikely venues. In just this weekend alone, Darren Young has probably become a permanent blip on pop-culture radar.

I wouldn't go that far. If he was already someone of note within the WWE and had accomplished stuff in the high mid-card to main event level when he came out? Then yes, permanent blip. But with where he is now, he's just the pop culture trend of the week. And if someone comes out who's higher than he is? No one will care about him anymore. Unless WWE puts him in a position tomorrow night to give a big speech or something about his coming out and getting a major push, he'll in all likelihood just be forgotten about again and just go down as the first out wrestler they had. Bryan got elevated because of his charisma and skill which the audience recognized, both of which several people already pointed out that Young lacks, and almost no one cared about Young before he came out, I doubt the majority of the audience out there, especially with homophobia still be rampant as it is these days, will really get behind him just because he did come out.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Kofi has the in ring skill. He also has charisma, but he's stuck as "the Reggae loving Ghanaian from West Africa." He has fan support, but it's not as big as Bryan's.

This guy has an idea on how the WWE should book the Black superstar:

http://www.redeyechicago.com/sports...pro-wrestlers-in-wwe-20130729,0,2980213.story

 

[TX85]

Should Shawn Micheals come out on Raw tomorrow and get involved where he gets RKO'd or save it for WM time..or both?

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I don't think Shawn Michaels is needed right now.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Should Shawn Micheals come out on Raw tomorrow and get involved where he gets RKO'd or save it for WM time..or both?

He should come out tomorrow, but I also would not be surprised if he returned to Texas.

 

[OnTheAir]

Darren Young definitely lacks the in-ring skills, and probably even the mic skills, to be a true superstar; but I wouldn't underestimate the vox populi in this case. Just as the people elevated Daniel Bryan to an unlikely stardom (and the guys in the back room probably never saw it coming), they're probably very likely to do that to Young as well. This is already getting mainstream media attention, because it's hip and trendy to do a coming-out story in unlikely venues. In just this weekend alone, Darren Young has probably become a permanent blip on pop-culture radar.

Granted, but the difference is that Bryan backs it up in the ring. You can have all of the great press in the world, but if you can't hold up your end of an upper-level feud with your ring work, then you're just a guy getting covered by TMZ. You're a Kardashian. Bryan, on the other hand, is not only an incredible wrestler, but can now cut a decent promo and he has learned to do all of the sports entertainment stuff as well (Dr. Shelby).

The public (and particularly the African-American community, since that's who we were initially discussing) would have to look at Darren and buy into him as a star, based not only on his press coverage, but his ring work and in-ring persona. They would have to believe "yeah...this guy belongs in the ring with Cena, Punk, Bryan, Orton, etc." I'm not sure he can reach that point. Maybe he'd prove me wrong...if so, more power to the guy.

 

[Wheels]

Reddit guy got owned tonight.

 

[TX85]

So what's going on with Christian?,They brought back his"One More Match"gimmick/He's hinted at retirement in promos lately and tonight he had a video package before the match that seemed this was it for his career But then ADR beats him clean

Speaking of ADR..Damn I love how much his character keeps getting more and more aggressive/ruthless and serious,I really dig the heel representing Mexico&latinos gimmick than him being so rich/having JBL type entrances and his Destiny crap.

He even doesn't have Ricardo anymore,Promos seems improved too..sometimes,He's still missing something But I love this ADR over his first heel run for sure

 

[OnTheAir]

Reddit guy got owned tonight.

He really did. From Rajah.com:

- According to sources backstage in WWE, there were many changes to the SummerSlam script in the hours leading up to the show. In an effort to prevent leaks on Reddit.com and wrestling news sites, only a select few WWE staffers knew about the main event finish before it happened.

http://rajah.com/node/35414

 

[Darkness Falls]

not sure if this was posted
del rio and drew got into an altercation backstage
http://nodq.com/wwe/378893745.shtml

 

[Wheels]

He really did. From Rajah.com:

- According to sources backstage in WWE, there were many changes to the SummerSlam script in the hours leading up to the show. In an effort to prevent leaks on Reddit.com and wrestling news sites, only a select few WWE staffers knew about the main event finish before it happened.

http://rajah.com/node/35414

He only got 2 matches right. Ambrose vs RVD and Punk vs Lesnar.

 

[Calavera]

ugh, people *****ing about how orton's angle is great and how wwe fans got trolled. so glad i watched breaking bad instead

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Too bad, you missed out on a great finish.

 

[cyclone]

Odd.

I'm not sure what the play is here? I thought we'd heard so much about there being a 'power struggle' angle between Vince, HHH, and Stephanie, yet this confuses me.

I thought HHH would call it fair, Bryan would win, and Vince would send out Randy to cash in. Now I'm just confused. Will Vince have a change of heart, and declare Daniel Bryan treated unfairly and he's a deserved champion? I really don't get it.

With regards to Christian too, I wouldn't be surprised if we get a retirement announcement on Raw tonight.

 

[NDX]

Delicious knee.

 

[Trainwreck2100]

Odd.

I'm not sure what the play is here? I thought we'd heard so much about there being a 'power struggle' angle between Vince, HHH, and Stephanie, yet this confuses me.

I thought HHH would call it fair, Bryan would win, and Vince would send out Randy to cash in. Now I'm just confused. Will Vince have a change of heart, and declare Daniel Bryan treated unfairly and he's a deserved champion? I really don't get it.

With regards to Christian too, I wouldn't be surprised if we get a retirement announcement on Raw tonight.

my only guess is HHH pals around with Vince till he turnss on him too

 

[Darkness Falls]

was i the only one who enjoyed the ring of fire match ? seems alot of the iwc hated it

 

[NDX]

was i the only one who enjoyed the ring of fire match ? seems alot of the iwc hated it

I was ok, I did enjoy the theatrics of it all. Gimmicky as all herll, but did its job.