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[Black Dynamite]

any chance D Brian wins the gold on sunday

 

[Project862006]

Oh WWE LOL

 

[Lantern Venom]

It has to be a joke. At least Big Show has that knock out punch but Cena doesn't seem to be in any danger. Also the Big Show's spears are kind of comical. I'm a fan but can never take him seriously.

Really? They always make me cringe a little. The idea of being bulldozed by a 480lb man, even if he is holding back, is pretty unsettling.

But that feud doesn't interest me at all. I feel like I'm watching tapes of old WWE broadcasts.

 

[chamber-music]

Best line I've heard about the Punk/AJ/Bryan is that it still has a better love story than Twilight.

The wrestling thread is in full control of its mental faculties!

CM Punk has attended the Martin Freeman school of facial expressions.

Tensei is like a rubbish Doctor Robotnik.

Heath Slater actually worked pretty well with Sin Cara. I didn't spot any botches which usually take place when WWE wrestlers try to work with Sin Cara's style of wrestling.

Santino and Hornswoggle in a bad unfunny WWE plot line. Thank the lord for tivo so I could fast forward that rubbish.

I wouldn't mind a divas main event if it wasn't just kicking, punching and rolling around on the mat followed by a roll up.

 

[Hunter Rider]

But what is there to test himself against right now? A bad creative committee? The product outside of Bryan/Punk/AJ is pretty bad. Roode would do well with his material in WWE, though I'm sure one of the reasons he has shined with his character is because TNA doesn't script their wrestlers like WWE does.

Even with some questionable booking in regards the finishes, he has still been booked better than any champion in WWE. I'd like to have seen more clean pins from Roode as champ, but it's not as if he never won cleanly. Also, though I don't 100% agree with it, booking the cheating heel is method of booking that has been going on for years. Early 90's Flair was filled with this.

Recently I don't think WWE has been scripting much, Triple H has seen to that, and I also wouldn't say Roode has been booked better than Punk or that stuff on TNA outside of Roode has been that great either.

The big difference is Roode gets to be the constant center of attention, but it's easy to be the center of attention in a company without any big star names. Since the start of the year Punk has had to deal with Rock/Cena, Taker/Triple H and then the return of Lesnar.

You also have to factor in that this is as far as they have trusted any non-Cena guy in a long time, plus I think there may be longer term booking at work, for instance the Punk/Cena leader segment last week and the Punk/Eve promo last night I think were setting the table for Punk bringing up how he's been under appreciated, essentially kicking in phase 2 now that WWE have seen he has maintained huge overness and merch sales since last year and wasn't just a flash in the pan.

To me WWE has been badly booked since post-Extreme Rules, however TNA in that time also had the waste of time that was Roode/Sting and 2 angles in Bully/Parks and AJ/Daniels/Dixie that were as equally crap and dull as Cena/Ace and Cena/Big Show.

For me right now the sole difference is the positioning of Cena as Punk/Bryan have been doing great stuff for two months, they just weren't going on last, but as I say there may be a bigger booking picture here.

I'm not of the belief that a guy has to work Mania to make his career. There are plenty of greats who made their mark on the business who have never worked a Mania.

Other than Sting I can't think of any from the last 25 years who are considered true greats, and Sting worked in a promotion that had a huge boom period where it got bigger than WWE, spending your whole career in a promotion that is a distant second is not the same IMO.

Yea seeing him against Punk, Bryan, etc. would provide for some good matches I would not deny that. Those aren't matches I HAVE to see though.

I would argue that there is still a lot Roode can do in TNA. He can have a great feud with Angle, Hardy, Aries, AJ etc. Plus, you also have to realize there is always new talent that comes along he can work with.

Most of Roode's rivalries during his run have been short lived and were just a means to build up his resume and legitimacy as champ. There is still several stories that can be told with the guys on the roster.

With good writing there is always more a talent can accomplish in a company.

I think there is room for a feud with Angle but him and AJ have worked pretty extensively and I just don't have any interest in Hardy. I'd love to see the feud with Aries continue from now until BFG.

In the end though he could wrap those feuds up by the end of the year and in truth I'm not bothered about seeing him work new unknown guys coming in. He's nearly 36, I want to see him work the big names in WWE at this stage of his career.

As a fan, I want to see him where he is going to be booked to the best of his abilities. Roode, could one day want something different and may want to try to make in WWE or he could be fine working as a top name in TNA while they continue to build their brand. For some guys that is more important than working the biggest stage.

Other than AJ and Sting I honestly can't think of anyone who wouldn't want to try their hand at the WWE. At the end of the day it's like being a pro football player and sticking in the CFL instead of seeing if you can make it in the NFL.

Could Roode be booked badly in WWE? most certainly, however Daniel Bryan and Punk, two guys a lot less WWE friendly in their look and style than Roode, have done well. Conversely you have Joe who didn't move to WWE because he didn't want to go to developmental, and yet in TNA he's been wasted to such a point that he's spent years as merely a might have been. In the end we can never be sure who will get booked right.

Hunter I will agree with whatever you have to say now! Lawd have mercy Velvet Sky!

She is mighty! t:

Oh WWE LOL

That will have been Punk and Bryan's idea not WWE's.

 

[Hunter Rider]

SD spoilers.

http://www.prowrestlingscoops.com/wwe/wwe-news/spoilers-live-wwe-smackdown-coverage-in-progress-now/

I was hoping Kidd vs Ziggler might happen on SD, they should have least had it be Ziggler/Cody vs Christian/Kidd instead of making Santino Christians partner.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Wheels]

I think despite some poor angles like the Bully Ray/Joseph Park and Claire storylines TNA has been better than WWE. TNA's show is structured better right now. I mean last week the show opened with a promo segment for a non title midcard feud. How often does that happen in WWE?

WWE's number 2 title feels irrelevant, while TNA added a stipulation to make theirs more prestigious, and had a tournament built around said title which was a major focus of the last PPV.

TNA has the Ace's and 8's, Bully Ray/Joseph Park, AJ/Daniels/Dixie/Claire, Joey Ryan, Madison Rayne 's crush, BFG series, and world title storylines. With the exception of the AJ/Daniels/Dixie/Claire storyline, they've been relatively easy to follow and plot hole free. What storylines does WWE focus on outside of Punk/Bryan/AJ and whatever Cena is doing?

I just see more effort in TNA than I do WWE. They try to spread the wealth so to speak, and WWE doesn't do that.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Other than AJ and Sting I honestly can't think of anyone who wouldn't want to try their hand at the WWE. At the end of the day it's like being a pro football player and sticking in the CFL instead of seeing if you can make it in the NFL.

Could Roode be booked badly in WWE? most certainly, however Daniel Bryan and Punk, two guys a lot less WWE friendly in their look and style than Roode, have done well. Conversely you have Joe who didn't move to WWE because he didn't want to go to developmental, and yet in TNA he's been wasted to such a point that he's spent years as merely a might have been. In the end we can never be sure who will get booked right.

My feeling is, if you're a talented guy in TNA, and you have a chance in the WWE, you should take it. The upside outweighs the downside; if the WWE doesn't work out for you, you get released in a gnat's breath anyway, and TNA will still welcome you with open arms.

The reverse is not true: a WWE guy who plys his trade with TNA will find the road back to the WWE fairly hazardous.

 

[Metallo]

I think despite some poor angles like the Bully Ray/Joseph Park and Claire storylines TNA has been better than WWE. TNA's show is structured better right now. I mean last week the show opened with a promo segment for a non title midcard feud. How often does that happen in WWE?

WWE's number 2 title feels irrelevant, while TNA added a stipulation to make theirs more prestigious, and had a tournament built around said title which was a major focus of the last PPV.

TNA has the Ace's and 8's, Bully Ray/Joseph Park, AJ/Daniels/Dixie/Claire, Joey Ryan, Madison Rayne 's crush, BFG series, and world title storylines. With the exception of the AJ/Daniels/Dixie/Claire storyline, they've been relatively easy to follow and plot hole free. What storylines does WWE focus on outside of Punk/Bryan/AJ and whatever Cena is doing?

I just see more effort in TNA than I do WWE. They try to spread the wealth so to speak, and WWE doesn't do that.

TNA has done more to improve than WWE has been doing lately so they are certainly catching up to them faster. I agree that TNA seems to try harder to give more people a purpose. Thats one of WWE's big problems. I'm liking Gutcheck and the BFG series. Even the X Div tourny was there to give some wrestlers something to do. Youv'e got a midcard in WWE thats mostly directionless. TNA are bringing in and showcasing new talent better right now. With WWE they seem to be going off on too many random things lately.

TNA has the better womens division right now. Layla could outwrestle Brooke but Brooke's win was made to look like a big deal. They just gave Layla the belt with no fanfare. I got tired of Gail Kims reign but there's a marked difference in the way she was booked to finally drop the belt and the way the Bellas were hotshotted the title in such a way that was worthless. WWE's Womens division is pointless and the Divas title is treated like a glorified extra strong maxi pad. AJ is more over than the entire division combined. If she were to win the womens belt it would be a step down. That belt needs her more than she needs it right now. She's one of the most featured people in WWE right now. Man or woman. Why does she even need the Divas title? When that question comes up there is a problem.

TNA's smartly elevated the X Division with some strong moves in a relatively short amount of time. WWE has the talent to make the US and IC titles look just as good but they seem to not be interested in pulling the trigger. I'm not too interested in whats going on with TNA's TV title but Devon and TNA are putting more effort in making it matter than the US title. Thats a crime. It looked like WWE was making moves to bolster the tag division but its too soon to tell. In TNA the GM is in the background helping facilitate the storyline progress. In WWE who the new GM will be is too big a deal. Just get to it already and give the talent more time.

WWE is becoming more and more guilty of the same sh** people used to HOUND TNA over: relying too much on old names. Excluding AJ/Bryan/Punk Bob Backlund was the highlight of last nights Raw and it wasn't the talents fault.

The WWE title seems to finally be WWE's main priority but its only because Vince loves the drama of a crazy love triangle. Not because he gives a damn about the title. In TNA the title's been front and center for most of the year. Despite some spotty booking its what everyone wants. Its the holy grail they're all after. We'd still be up sh** creek in WWE if it weren't for the talents of Punk AJ and Bryan. More Cena making poop jokes about Big Show and Kane while Triple H strokes his hammer at the thought of going over Lesnar.

They've let most of the hype from Lesnar's return bleed off way more than they should have and this is after Brock played his part surprisingly well. WWE has no one to blame but themselves because Brocks held up his end.

I can ignore the tired Abyss vs Bully Ray angle and at least Ray is entertaining. Otherwise its about on the same level of boredom as Ryback which I'm also trying to ignore. TNA's worst thing going on now is this Claire crap. But then WWE doesn't want to be left out in the cold with sh** angles and they make Hornsswoggle the anonymous GM all along. They basically gave us all the finger and told us we were all stupid enough to have our time wasted for two years. They either had no plan or they were to lazy to give a f***. Hornswoggle is like a bullsh** magnet. Anytime he get involved with anything you know its going to be terrible.

 

[bullets]

Really? They always make me cringe a little. The idea of being bulldozed by a 480lb man, even if he is holding back, is pretty unsettling.

But that feud doesn't interest me at all. I feel like I'm watching tapes of old WWE broadcasts.

It just looks haphazard sometimes. Then when he leaves the ground it's like watching someone fall over. I'd hate to be on the receiving end of any of his moves though.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Best line I've heard about the Punk/AJ/Bryan is that it still has a better love story than Twilight.

The wrestling thread is in full control of its mental faculties!

CM Punk has attended the Martin Freeman school of facial expressions.

Tensei is like a rubbish Doctor Robotnik.

Heath Slater actually worked pretty well with Sin Cara. I didn't spot any botches which usually take place when WWE wrestlers try to work with Sin Cara's style of wrestling.

Santino and Hornswoggle in a bad unfunny WWE plot line. Thank the lord for tivo so I could fast forward that rubbish.

I wouldn't mind a divas main event if it wasn't just kicking, punching and rolling around on the mat followed by a roll up.

That's because neither Punk or Bryan is an effeminate vampire or a shirtless wolf-boy.

 

[Dr. Evil]

We've noted before that WWE offered top women's wrestler Sara Del Rey a developmental deal. She was waiting on medical testing to come back but the feeling is that she will pass just fine.

There's speculation among some in WWE that Del Rey may be hired to help train the WWE Divas but that's not confirmed yet. Either way, Del Rey joining the company is seen as a major move.

- We also reported that top British wrestler Pac has signed with WWE and is in the middle of re-locating to Florida for WWE developmental. Some expected him to go right to the main roster but that likely won't be the case. Pac wrote the following on Twitter about the reports of him joining WWE:

"THANK YOU to everyone who has sent me well wishes, truly humbled and grateful...but PLEASE don't believe EVERYTHING you read..."

nodq

 

[E-Man]

Wait a minute. So the anonymous GM was revealed last night to be Hornswoggle? Someone please tell me that I'm being trolled.

 

[Kane52630]

Wait a minute. So the anonymous GM was revealed last night to be Hornswoggle? Someone please tell me that I'm being trolled.

It's....

Spoiler

 

[Pink Ranger]

Wait a minute. So the anonymous GM was revealed last night to be Hornswoggle? Someone please tell me that I'm being trolled.

Every WWE fan was trolled.

 

[Metallo]

Wait a minute. So the anonymous GM was revealed last night to be Hornswoggle? Someone please tell me that I'm being trolled.

It was. Personally I think even Bob Backlund would have been better if they wanted to blow it off real quick like. Wouldn't have made a lot of sense but it would have made some. More than Hornswoggle.

 

[E-Man]

*sigh* I'm really going to have to force myself to watch the 1,000th episode just because of how long I've been a fan. Things like this make it incredibly hard.

 

[bullets]

It was. Personally I think even Bob Backlund would have been better if they wanted to blow it off real quick like. Wouldn't have made a lot of sense but it would have made some. More than Hornswoggle.

Backlund is erratic like most of the gm's decisions. It might of worked.

Vince just hates continuity and this was the perfect way to teach us a lesson for wanting storyline resolutions.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

Direct TV getting rid of Spike?

 

[TX85]

Direct TV getting rid of Spike?

That could hurt TNA quite a bit!

 

[Metallo]

Direct TV getting rid of Spike?

Its not just Spike its an issue between Direct TV and Viacom, Spikes parent company. This could potentially affect avalability several even bigger Viacom owned channels for about 20 million subscribers. Channels like Comedy Central, VH1, MTV, Nickelodean, etc.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

The ratings are bad enough too.


Hornswoggle was the anonymous gm? WTF

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

Its not just Spike its an issue between Direct TV and Viacom, Spikes parent company. This could potentially affect avalability several even bigger Viacom owned channels for about 20 million subscribers. Channels like Comedy Central, VH1, MTV, Nickelodean, etc.

Yeah, I've been reading some shows are in trouble.

 

[TX85]

That's a lot of big channels