Charlie knows alot about blow I bet.
Ditto. UT v Cena seems like the best option(none of them are great) & Cena should end the streak & retire UT. I still want Punk to end the streak tho.You say pointless, but I say entertaining.
Nevertheless, Cena/Rock II is pointless period since it takes away the whole 'Once in a Lifetime' gimmick the match had. And John Cena would win obviously, so what fun would this match be when we will already know the outcome if they pair up a second time? No way would Dwayne win a second time in a row and especially if the WWE title was on the line.
Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar may very well be my second choice, but I definitely don't want to see it. At least give us a match of the two guys leaving the next day while giving us a match of two guys staying in the company and possibly someone who could very well end the streak. Besides, how many more matches does 'Taker have? Might as well still use him fresh to end his streak while they can
And...I still enjoyed it.
I just think it's time for Undertaker to lose. 20 even wins and we don't know how long 'Taker can keep this up. It's best to have someone end the streak now before they push it too much where 'Taker can barely stand five minutes in a match; thus, Cena, the face of the WWE, should be the one to end it.
It's nice to know that you seem so butt hurt you STILL have to put in your two cents of how Cena got screwed over with that match. For the longest Rock was going to lose, did ya know that?
Maybe he'll teach Cena a thing or two about Women.......
I don't care. I still thought it was weak. And it doesn't change the fact that long term it didn't do sh**. When it was over it was over.
Stop thinking about what you want for a minute and look at reality. You keep misssing the point. What if he DOESN'T lose? Then what? Thats what I'm talking about.
Also...If it was OK for Cena to beat Taker then that mean it was OK for him to beat Rock: A forty year old past his prime who can't or won't give the company the time he used to. Oh the hypocrisy. Funny how you were OK with the results of WM28 but you have a problem with Taker, who despite his age STILL delivered a better story than the Rock did. He and Triple H saved the show from Rock and Cenas mediocre performance. Even their match at 27 was better.
And once again Taker has to come in and be man enough and talent enough to help the companies future when a prima donna doesn't.
And its nice to now you still have markish tunnel vision. Butt hurt? Nothing like that. Its called thinking long term. Your kind of thinking is whats gotten the business into the rut its in. If you could stop talking about the Rock long enough maybe you might realize that.
Vince changed his mind on the finish because he's gotten too old and out of touch to think outside the box the way he finally did when Austin turned things around in the 90's. He wants a quick fix. People predicted a year ahead of time that what the finish would be and thats because Vince has been playing it save. Doesn't matter what he had pencilled in before because he has a history of changing finishes the way he did. It was always a real probability.
And what would it have done for Cena long term? Either way, Cena/Rock will have done nothing. It would not have won those fans of The Rock as much as Rock didn't win the fans of Hulk Hogan. Sure, it would've been a nice "passing the torch" moment, but Cena has been the face of the company for quite a while, why would it even matter? It was just a match and a great one for Rock's fans. Get over it.
Reality is that Undertaker has been passed his prime and if he can only wrestle once a year, it shows that sooner than later he's going to put his boots up and retire. It's best to place him in a match against the face of the business at the moment while they both can so Cena can end the streak. That's reality. Thinking 'Taker doesn't want to lose and keep going when there's no telling how much longer 'Taker has left in the tank.
Lol, stop acting so immature. You think I preferred the Rock/Cena match? REALLY? Or are you just saying **** to try to make your point? Sure, Undertaker pulled an amazing match, but STILL....twelve months later and you expect Undertaker to pull another great match? He's gonna want to retire when he still can and not over do it and then end up getting surgery after surgery like Hogan.
Plus, once more...know what you're talking about first. I'm only saying 'Taker needs to retire when he can; I am not totally for it as he's still one of the best, but he needs to at least retire before he can't give all he can.
You do know that Dwayne Johnson didn't have to come back, right? No, you're not butt hurt after all![]()
Long term? Since when did Rock's return supposed to be part of a long term picture at all? He was meant to bring back some fans that have been lost in the mix of the last couple of years and give WM 28 amazing numbers, to which he did both. That "kind of thinking" did not ruin WWE at all. And Cena beating Rock would've been the better picture long term? Yah...exactly how?
So...you should be pissy at Vince, not Dwayne![]()
Something he and WWE could talk up and promote WHILE HE'S THERE EVERY WEEK. How hard is that for you to figure out?
It matters for the same reason Hogan beat the greats he did or the same reason Sting beat the greats he did despite being the face of the company for years. Watch something besides Rock matches and The Attitude era and you might know that.
Not about "getting over it" when people like you keep slobbering over how the cards should be worked around his participation and further stealing the spotlight when not really doing much for the product. Don't like it? Too f***ing bad.
And none of that means he's going to lose. Like I said get real instead oif fantasy booking because you've got a double standard and want Taker to hang them up. He COULD beat Cena. Then what?
This from the guy who calls people ********? Grow the f*** up yourself and take off your mark glasses. I don't have to say anything to make a point when its common sense. Last time I checked the time off seems t be HELPING Taker. Why do you think there is talk of him returning for a program at Survivor Series? Guess you convenietly forgot that part to sell your bullsh**. Get a clue.
And even the broke down old man still stole the show from The roided up Great One. Ooops....
Thats not the issue. Damn you don't get the point.![]()
Who gives a f*** if he didn't have to come back. Not the point. You sound like you're some lovesick fanboy. Yeah he didn't get anything from coming back...except a big paycheck, promotion with a large male demographic for his movies, and his ego stroked by McMahon for going over.And it was his ex wife and current manager who suggested he come back. Not the altruistic bullsh** you seem to believe.
The company needs to do more than bring back some Attitude Era fans who bail as soon as he leaves. They need to bring in NEW fans to grow the company. They didn't really do that. Its the same kind of problems WCW and TNA have had but you're apparently blind to those.
Like you said genius Dwayne didn't HAVE to come back. If he didn't Cenas time could have been occupied some other way. And if Rock wanted Cena to go over he would have...if he's as great and popular as you say he is. All top guys at his supposed level have had that stroke. Can't have it both ways on this one.
You post something because you're one of the the people who don't verbally jerk off to only talking about the Rock and the Attitude Era 24/7 and have an interest in the business as a whole past and presend and future.
Yah, I get that. He should've been around more, but he wasn't. Why stress out on what could have happened?
I will take your advice because you're so right about me. Me and only loving the Attitude Era![]()
Lol, what?
Seriously, what the **** are you talking about? My idea for Cena/'Taker is the better choice, imo. Not Rock/'Taker, not Rock/Cena, not Lesnar/'Taker and not Lesnar/Cena.
He could. But at least with Lesnar and Rock, those two choices are a given that Undertaker will win. Give me a match with Undertaker that could go both ways.
And yet that's only a rumor still. Good try though.
Again, here you go again...not even caring that I know that the Undertaker/HHH match stole the show because you think I'm only for Rock. Nice one, but still wrong. Again though, good try
I await your next "comeback".
Although...that IS the point that I am going for when talking about Undertaker vs Cena but yet you turned this into a Cena/Rock argument![]()
Again with the whole act of you knowing everything about me, lol.
And will they do that with Cena's same shtick?
And if Cena wanted to still win, he would have since he has as much leverage as anyone in the company right now.
You're a riot![]()
I'm out.
Sorry if I can't continue this to anyone verbally jerking off to John Cena.
I wouldn't be shocked if Mickie turned heel. They've teased it. Mickie hasn't worked heel in years and she's kind of lost some steam. Only problem is Velvet is the only babyface even close to being as popular but if they can use Mickie to get Brooke more over it won't matter as much.
They've also got Sarita who could carry Brooke better than most.
I wonder if Aces ad Eights is part of the group of talent from Ring Ka King or from Mexico. Aces? Eights? Its obviously a play on cards and every deck has a King (of the Mountain). My money is on the guy in charge being Double J. Sting fired him after all. I'm interested but they need to have a plan for this angle and I have a fear that they don't.
I don't think AJ admitted to sleeping with the crack ho rather than they showed him perplexed and stunned at what she said. The logical thing to do would have been for AJ to say "hey I never slept with you, so how is that possible" but of course nothing in this storyline has been logical so why start now.![]()
I wondered about the number of guys in Aces & Eights last night too, but I'm guessing when it is revealed that there is maybe 4 or 5 guys they actually use and they say the rest were hired thugs (or they just firget about the number this week period). I'm betting you have Jarrett behind it (possibly with Bischoff?) and they use Luke Gallows, Domino, Chris Masters, and maybe some other talent such they've used iin Ring Ka King.
Brooke Hogan scares me. She looks like a tranny and walks like she's trying to keep her junk tucked between her legs.
I wonder about that too with Brooke, but I get the impression she'll be fine as she seems like she works hard. I think you're right that she'll feud with Tara.
My thoughts exactly. I'm no longer interested in Taker matches unless its Sting
As someone who really wants to see The Rock vs Brock Lesnar, I say let's have 'Taker vs Cena at WM 29. I mean, if we were to get a Rock/Cena II it'll just make their last match even more hilarious with erasing the 'Once in a Lifetime' tagline. Plus, what good would a second match really do for Cena or Rock? At least with Rock/Lesnar, there could be more of a wonder as to who the winner could be, especially if the WWE title is in the picture. With Cena/Rock, the obvious winner will be Cena for two reasons(Cena is the plausible answer to continue with being the champ as well as Rock's contract being over).
Plus, with Cena going up against 'Taker, we could see a heel turn for 'Taker as well as Cena possibly ending the streak. Going from losing his big match against Dwayne to a year later where he ends the streak.
The thing for me is that once again there will be 4 guys getting main event focus at the most important wrestling event of the year, and 3 of them will be gone 24 hours after the event is over.
Personally I don't want to see Rock vs Brock as Rock's atheltic slickness has dwindled and Brock's ground and pound MMA laced style does not fit well with a guy who could really do with someone lighter to work.
The thing that also sucks is that they say whoever Taker chooses to face, the other two will face each other, meaning we could end up with Cena vs Rock or Brock again, neither of which makes any sense, Rock/Cena was supposed to be a one off and Cena has already beaten Brock.
I know some will say that Punk, Bryan and Sheamus aren't as big of stars and it's Mania, but if these guys are ever going to be bigger stars then they need to be showcased as such at Mania. Put Punk vs Brock, Taker vs Sheamus and Rock vs Bryan. Let these big names give back and help elevate the next guys expected to carry the company over the next 5-10 years, even if they lose (Which I expect Bryan and Sheamus would), the status of match on a Mania would be great for them.
I don't know why TNA seem so reluctant to use Sarita, she is a good worker and has plenty of personality, she's make an ideal heel contender for Brooke.
This is the nagging problem I have with the whole angle, it feels like it will come down to essentially being Sting vs Jarrett yet again, not a match I want to see at all.
That's why I thought he admitted sleeping with her, as he just kept mumbling "I don't know!" when he was asked. I'd cut this awful angle more slack if it was driving a fresh feud or pushing a new heel, but at the core it's just a set up for more AJ/Daniels matches and only serves to push a 42 year old mid carder heel.
They could do it that way I guess, it just felt like when the NWO suddenly became bloated with jobbers. Bischoff or Jarrett don't really interest me, just like above I'd be less cynical on the angle if I knew it was going to push a fresh heel rather than retreading old, tired feuds.
She does seem to have gotten butcher and no amount of short dresses and heels are going to cover that up. I also think she comes of completely false when talking about how much she knows.
The "Boo stuff between them the other week felt like a potential start to the angle, and I think it's a good choice for Brooke, who unlike Velvet is clearly improving in the ring in her execution and timing.
The only one that really interests me now is Taker vs Cena based purely off the fact Cena is the only guy that I can believe may beat him. However I think the match can still help younger guys just by going toe to toe with Taker at Mania.