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-WWE announced that Zack Ryder, Dolph Ziggler and ring announcer Justin Roberts were in a car accident following their appearance at the San Diego Comic-Con while leaving in a limo from the event.

An article on the official WWE website noted that Ryder hurt his neck and everyone went flying from being hit but there were no serious injuries.

-WWE have been refused registration to trademark "Ryback". They were first refused back in January because the USPTO felt it was merely a surname and they don't allow trademarks for such. WWE got back to them a few days ago, giving various reasons as to why their Ryback is more than just a surname. They were again refused, this time final, because the USPTO were not satisfied with their answer.

-An LLC based in New York named 'Mocker' registered to trademark "ECW" for wrestling use back in March. WWE apparently let the trademark slip.
It was just 'assigned to an examiner' a few days ago, so I guess they just started working on it now.

-During a panel for "Psych" on the San Diego Comic-Con, it was announced another WWE talent would be appearing on the next season of the series, although who it would be was not announced.

-For those of you with DirecTV who can't currently watch Impact Wrestling, SpikeTV.com is putting complete episodes online with a seven day delay. When the new episode pops up, we'll note it here.

-TNA Knockouts champion Miss Tessmacher will be taking part in Spike TV's Comic-Con coverage on the network today.
 
I sincerely thought when she first debuted, she was going to be the replacement for Gail Kim after she left. She has all the tools t be over. Looks, mic work, and she's phenomenal in the ring. TNA let their best female workers go in Hamada, Melissa Anderson, and Roxxi. They could at least let Sarita go to work!

Though this isn't the main reason she isn't being used, but one problem TNA has is that they just do not have enough programming given the number of people on their roster. They need a second show.


Seems like the priorities for the Knockouts has shifted. Its a shame. Sarita has the look AND the talent and she gets the gagga aspect. I'd like to see Xplosion as a show in the States on the weekend. Maybe on Sundays or Saturday morning the way WCW and WWF used to have.



I completely understand. We've seen those two work a lot together and it does feel like old hat. I'm probably a little biased, since I'm the biggest Sting mark here, but I think there is an interesting story they can tell here if booked right. Jarrett needs to come back and play a complete bastard, evil heel who is feels spiteful that he was fired, lost his company, and was passed over for the HOF. He needs to play it straight and not comically or over-the-top like he has in the past. Jarrett, when he is "on" is damn good.

The match needs to be full of bells and whistles to cover up short comings in the ring. Honestly, anything other than a No DQ grudge match wouldn't make sense anyway.

Stings not the problem as far as the big time feel the story needs its Jarrett. He's just never been on Stings level. He's always been good enough in the ring but not as good as an Angle who could cover any shortcomings.

I agree...if it is Jarrett he needs to come back as something different and REALLY put some fire into it.





Like Metallo said, this is like a bad ECW angle (even those angles were terrible despite revisionist history).

What I hate is that they keep stretching this out when it could have been over within a couple of weeks. It makes AJ and Dixie look like the biggest goofs in the world. Besides, this Crack****e now has no redeeming qualities now that she's basically turned on AJ (since it will be an obvious lie and they gave us an omen with her smoking a cigarette while pregnant).

It sucks because on the one hand, TNA feels this is an important angle and it gives AJ a lot of air time and a big role on TV. On the other hand, he could be used so much better in I dont know a WORLD TITLE PRGRAM.

A lot of ECW's angles were garbage soap opera. The only difference was it fit the time and the company. That kind of stuff looks low rent in a bigger company 15 years later.

Shocked Styles went along with this but then maybe he doesn't have much choice. I could see if there was a moral to be taught but the angle is still trash.





At one point I felt the same way, but seeing how Cena lost against Rock at Mania, the intrigue of whether Cena would win against a veteran like Taker is lost on me. I have no doubts they'd serve Cena up for Taker to Tombstone. Besides that, Cena winning does nothing for him. He is already made and they had Taker lose one of the defining pieces of his legacy for nothing.

Taker obviously isn't going to lose to anyone, so he needs something special to draw interest. The only thing left is Sting or like you said, a young guy who can be made in the process.

The only problem with that is WWE would need to book a young guy well enough starting now until Mania and it has to be someone the fans are clamouring over for it to work. I'd say Ryback if he was over, but he's not. WWE needs their Austin Aries or Goldberg for them to pit against Taker. I just do not see WWE booking any young guys well enough that they'd be willing to pay to see them wrestle Taker.

This. The only reason I would want to see Cena face Taker is if he puts him over but even then I can imagine the backlash from the Cena haters who sh** on Cena for any reason and LOOK for reasons to sometimes. Before I thought there were problems with the two of them working Mania together but that was before they jobbed Cena out to Rock. He could have done for Cena what people are wanting Taker to do.

If anything Taker should be working with guys like Punk or even Ziggler one day and giving them the rub. With his limited ring time that makes the most sense. WWE are in no position to be wasting opportunities like that to make stars.

WWE is making some of the same creative mistakes WCW and TNA have made in the past and while they got called on it WWE isn't by some of the same people that trashed TNA before they finally woke up.
And Brodus would have been better in the moster role than Ryback is. I like what Clay is doing now but he's got some potential for more.
 
As long as we get to see more of Cameron and Naomi, I don't mind Brodus Clay.
 
Zombie Brooke Tessmacher at SDCC


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Blows they bring her in right when Kharma goes out. So much potential there with Beth, Nattie, Kharma, Eve and Del Ray on the same roster.


I wouldn't hold my breath on WWE using SDR wisely. WWE doesn't care about pushing the Divas division seriously. If anything, Kong being let go should be proof of that
 
So...

NXT have their own designated Championship title now.

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Has the WWE even made Kong's departure official?
 
I wouldn't hold my breath on WWE using SDR wisely. WWE doesn't care about pushing the Divas division seriously. If anything, Kong being let go should be proof of that

There is news that SDR is coming in to train the divas, which may be a good thing. We'll see.
 
There is news that SDR is coming in to train the divas, which may be a good thing. We'll see.


The best training in the world will not matter until WWE changes their booking philosophy towards the women.

I'd like to be optimistic, but WWE's track record speaks for itself.
 
I'm cautiously optimistic, as I don't see a significant role for her. On the other hand, the Bella Twins, Maxine and Kelly Kelly leaving is a sign that the WWE needs to do something.

And Kharma hasn't left yet. They have not made it official.

Too bad Mercedes shot down the rumor of her trying out for WWE. I had the perfect gimmick I would have used for her had she signed with the WWE that the WWE would not have used.
 
I'm cautiously optimistic, as I don't see a significant role for her. On the other hand, the Bella Twins, Maxine and Kelly Kelly leaving is a sign that the WWE needs to do something.

And Kharma hasn't left yet. They have not made it official.

Too bad Mercedes shot down the rumor of her trying out for WWE. I had the perfect gimmick I would have used for her had she signed with the WWE that the WWE would not have used.

Nothing wrong with being an optimist I say!

The Bellas and Kelly leaving is because they think they can get work outside of WWE without having to deal with the horrible road schedule.

You have to look at the chicks leaving and how they started their careers. I would venture to say they got into the business for entirely different reasons than someone like SDR or Kong.

WWE will continue to push what McMahon likes, which is the Kelly Kelly types. The wrestling will come secondary.

Women's wrestling will never get a fair shake in WWE land. Hell, Vince doesn't even like pushing wrestling that involves the guys. He's too busy making "Movies" on RAW
 
I want to start something:

Name some positive things about the WWE

My list:

- They do a fantastic job at video packages, especially when someone retires. I thought the Edge tribute video was one of their best since the HBK tribute. They also do a fantastic job at assembling video packages that show WWE superstars visiting the American Armed Forces or at autograph signings with WWE fans.
- The recent call to pick up already in production movies for WWE Studios. The more they do this, the less mediocre the movies they release are.
- The product may be down, but they still have their share of famous celebrity fans. It's not unusual to see a bunch of NFL football players in attendance at Raw or Smackdown or PPV events. They must be doing something right to keep having celebrity fans.
- They are still big internationally. While they may be down in the United States, the WWE is still big internationally. Their last visit to Europe was a huge success. And despite the whole Chris Jericho incident, they did fairly well in Brazil. They went into China, Russia, UAE, Qatar and Turkey and those were huge successes.
- The web shows that they have on Youtube are entertaining, especially my favorite "Are You Serious?"
 
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I want to start something:

Name some positive things about the WWE

-The WWE Championship division is built around two technically skilled non-heavyweights who wouldn't have even got a cup of coffee from the WWE 10 years ago

-They give Daniel Bryan the mike and let the man work :up:

-With Damian Sandow, Brodus Clay and the Ascension, they seem to be going back to gimmick-based characters, which have been an often ignored part of the sport for a long time

-They're focussing more on international markets than they've ever done before
 
Good points there, Pinky. I would throw in WWE attempting a slight resurrection of the Tag Team scene where even TNA seems to have fallen off on that aspect (unfortunately).
 
You forgot Bray Wyyatt in the gimmick section, Pinky.
 
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-WWE announced that Zack Ryder, Dolph Ziggler and ring announcer Justin Roberts were in a car accident following their appearance at the San Diego Comic-Con while leaving in a limo from the event.

I really hope they are ok,I wonder IF Ziggler sold the flying though as IF fighting someone like Brodus!!
 
Cena vs. Taker could work if booked right. I could also see Taker handpicking Cena to be the man who ends his Wrestlemania streak.


Cena is on the shortlist of people who would deserve it but I could only imagine the backlash.

I know some will say that Punk, Bryan and Sheamus aren't as big of stars and it's Mania, but if these guys are ever going to be bigger stars then they need to be showcased as such at Mania. Put Punk vs Brock, Taker vs Sheamus and Rock vs Bryan. Let these big names give back and help elevate the next guys expected to carry the company over the next 5-10 years, even if they lose (Which I expect Bryan and Sheamus would), the status of match on a Mania would be great for them.

Those are some good suggestions. It's mind boggling that they aren't trying harder to elevate new stars. Punk , Bryan , and Sheamus all deserve the support. Also there's a few names that should be in the mix around that time.

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-WWE announced that Zack Ryder, Dolph Ziggler and ring announcer Justin Roberts were in a car accident following their appearance at the San Diego Comic-Con while leaving in a limo from the event.
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Glad they're ok. I just watched the new episode. [BLACKOUT]John Morrison[/BLACKOUT] has a cameo:awesome:

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Bray Wyatt is already a better gimmick than Husky Harris.
 
Blows they bring her in right when Kharma goes out. So much potential there with Beth, Nattie, Kharma, Eve and Del Ray on the same roster.


True true...now if only they'd actually use them.

Zombie Brooke Tessmacher at SDCC


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She's not the original zombie hot but she'll do.
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I'd love to be the guy that airbrushed all that.

Its a pretty fangirlish thing to do which is cool but then again zombies have gone mainstream. Tara should have joined her as The Black Widow.

Nothing wrong with being an optimist I say!

The Bellas and Kelly leaving is because they think they can get work outside of WWE without having to deal with the horrible road schedule.

You have to look at the chicks leaving and how they started their careers. I would venture to say they got into the business for entirely different reasons than someone like SDR or Kong.

WWE will continue to push what McMahon likes, which is the Kelly Kelly types. The wrestling will come secondary.

Women's wrestling will never get a fair shake in WWE land. Hell, Vince doesn't even like pushing wrestling that involves the guys. He's too busy making "Movies" on RAW


The very nature of the womens signings in recent years has come back to bite them in the a**. They shouldn't be mad or surprised that the kind of women they signed weren't passionate enough to be in it for the long haul or really get better. The division is in a strange spot. WWE doesn't take it seriously and a lot of the girls don't take it seriously either yet even if they make some name for themselves there they end up leaving and WWE has even less over women to put in their spots. In the end they kind of have WWE over a barrell even though neither side love womens wresting. WWE does end up losing attractive media representatives though.


Maybe things seem to be changing as far as talent with Ace on the outs but like you said until the booking changes bringing in a Sara Del Rey isn't going to mean as much unless the division is taken seriously. She could end up being another Gail Kim.


I want to start something:

Name some positive things about the WWE

My list:

- They do a fantastic job at video packages, especially when someone retires. I thought the Edge tribute video was one of their best since the HBK tribute. They also do a fantastic job at assembling video packages that show WWE superstars visiting the American Armed Forces or at autograph signings with WWE fans.
- The recent call to pick up already in production movies for WWE Studios. The more they do this, the less mediocre the movies they release are.
- The product may be down, but they still have their share of famous celebrity fans. It's not unusual to see a bunch of NFL football players in attendance at Raw or Smackdown or PPV events. They must be doing something right to keep having celebrity fans.
- They are still big internationally. While they may be down in the United States, the WWE is still big internationally. Their last visit to Europe was a huge success. And despite the whole Chris Jericho incident, they did fairly well in Brazil. They went into China, Russia, UAE, Qatar and Turkey and those were huge successes.
- The web shows that they have on Youtube are entertaining, especially my favorite "Are You Serious?"

They've demoted Johnny Ace and seem to be restructuring developmental. Nothing but a good thing.

And they've rehired Finlay. Great news.

Half the divas blow but at least the division isn't 80 percent blonds anymore.
 
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-WWE announced that Zack Ryder, Dolph Ziggler and ring announcer Justin Roberts were in a car accident following their appearance at the San Diego Comic-Con while leaving in a limo from the event.

An article on the official WWE website noted that Ryder hurt his neck and everyone went flying from being hit but there were no serious injuries.

Hope they're all ok.
 
Cena/Rock II is ruins the "Once in a Lifetime" promotion they've used for their first match. Obviously Cena would win, but really who would care?

Rock winning the title is pointless unless he sticks around for a few months, defends it, and drops it someone on his way out.

Rock vs Lesnar doesn't interest me too much considering A) Rock's wrestling ability isn't what it was 10 years ago, B) When the match ends, both will be gone and it does nothing for the company in the long-term.

Rock vs Undertaker - they never had a good match when both were in their prime, so I can't imagine them having one now. And as said with Rock/Lesnar, when it's over, they'll be gone. Rock back to Hollywood, Taker out on his hiatus.

Cena vs Undertaker is the only one that interests me because there's a sliver of a chance they'll let Cena end the streak. But it's a sliver of a chance.


I agree. Cena vs Rock again would be a mistake , they've already gotten all the mileage out of it.


-The WWE Championship division is built around two technically skilled non-heavyweights who wouldn't have even got a cup of coffee from the WWE 10 years ago

-They give Daniel Bryan the mike and let the man work :up:


I'm ordering MITB tomorrow . It's against my better judgement but at least I can rely on a good show from these two.
 
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