The Wrestling Thread Is Under...Siege! - - Part 248

[wampa1]

If not The Rock, who can get in a program with the power couple and Ronda though?

Angle.

 

[enterthemadness]

What the hell is Borash going to do in WWE?

Besides getting paid on time? I read he does a lot behind the scenes. And when I google his name this monrning, it said NXT on his wiki. But who honestly knows.

Also, Rockstar Spud name has popped up for GM of 205 Live.


Kidman or Noble would be better and make more sense though. Kidman could teach people how not to botch a shooting star press as well.

 

[nite-owl]

What the hell is Borash going to do in WWE?

Probably work on the Woken Matt Hardy segments.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Your view of Banks is incredibly bias. Sasha has carried Alicia Fox, Nia Jaxx, Alexa Bliss and even Mickie James into good matches over the last year or so.

Our issue is with Sasha's title defenses is that she hasn't had ONE successful title defense all at the expense of Vince's love affairs with Charlotte & Alexa Bliss. Also, she wasn't "given" main event spots, she earned it and when being in the main events she has delivered time and time again, including last night.

Also, let's calm down on "Alexa Bliss' promos being as good as KO's". She's good, but she can get repetitive and, frankly, boring sometimes.

I'm biased? With you Sasha earned it, with everyone else they haven't. Even Asuka has to wait her turn. She's been there for two and half years and is the best in the world.

You complaining about how Becky or how Bayley have been booked? They wish they could have Sasha's booking. Hell Alexa even with the strap has had good booking?

Alexa is natural on the stick and can act. She pulls off the behind the scenes bits every bit as good as anyone else in the company.

 

[The Chris]

I think what you're saying Darth is what makes me prefer her as a manager, like she was with Blake and Murphy.

 

[javonstokess]

I'm biased? With you Sasha earned it, with everyone else they haven't. Even Asuka has to wait her turn. She's been there for two and half years and is the best in the world.

You complaining about how Becky or how Bayley have been booked? They wish they could have Sasha's booking. Hell Alexa even with the strap has had good booking?

Alexa is natural on the stick and can act. She pulls off the behind the scenes bits every bit as good as anyone else in the company.

With all due respect, I have taken issue with how Becky and Bayley have been booked...BUT say what you want, Becky had a solid 3 month reign as champion, same with Bayley (who, mind you was supposed to win the title back from Alexa Bliss right now if it wasn't for her injury).

In regards to how Alexa comes off to fans, she's had phenomenal booking. She rarely loses and damn near always makes the face look foolish in every feud she's been in. About her being a "natural", that's a matter of opinion. I think she's okay, but she's not amazing or anything.

I don't know why you infer that I don't think anyone else earned, but you'd be wrong. My only point is that Sasha has essentially become enhancement talent. She's over and good enough that they can throw her in any feud or match and it get some sort of response, but they constantly have her coming out on the losing end of championship opportunities or AT BEST she wins the title and holds it for not more than a month. She's the female "Dean Ambrose".

I've said it before, but Vince just doesn't get behind black wrestlers (male or female). IMO, in his mind, they can hold secondary belts, but he just won't commit to having a regular black wrestler as the "face" of the WWE. He'll make money of them (hence Sasha's face on damn near anything possible), but Vince likes "big, muscular white guys" or "blond, white women".

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I think what you're saying Darth is what makes me prefer her as a manager, like she was with Blake and Murphy.

I crush on Alexa (same with Sasha), but I haven't wanted her with the title for a very long time. I have complained about her actual matches maybe more then anyone else here. The Becky stuff was BS imo.

We all have our favorites. But there is no world that Sasha has had the worst booking in the WWE in those divisions. Not even close. When you start acting like Asuka hasn't earned it, that is just ridiculous territory. Sasha heeling it up the last two nights is the best she has been in a long time.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Hunter Rider]

I crush on Alexa (same with Sasha), but I haven't wanted her with the title for a very long time. I have complained about her actual matches maybe more then anyone else here. The Becky stuff was BS imo.

We all have our favorites. But there is no world that Sasha has had the worst booking in the WWE in those divisions. Not even close. When you start acting like Asuka hasn't earned it, that is just ridiculous territory. Sasha heeling it up the last two nights is the best she has been in a long time.

I don't care about any of them but from the bits I've seen it's easy to see why Alexa has been the franchise of the division, she wouldn't be in an indie promotion or in Japan, but in WWE she's perfect for what they sell.

Sasha is the best all round talent in the division from what I've seen, but she can be sloppy and yes, I do think her race is partly why she isn't given the real mega push.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Besides getting paid on time? I read he does a lot behind the scenes. And when I google his name this monrning, it said NXT on his wiki. But who honestly knows.

Also, Rockstar Spud name has popped up for GM of 205 Live.

Rockstar Spud would be a good name for 205 Live, but I think they need a name from the past to get people interested.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

With all due respect, I have taken issue with how Becky and Bayley have been booked...BUT say what you want, Becky had a solid 3 month reign as champion, same with Bayley (who, mind you was supposed to win the title back from Alexa Bliss right now if it wasn't for her injury).

In regards to how Alexa comes off to fans, she's had phenomenal booking. She rarely loses and damn near always makes the face look foolish in every feud she's been in. About her being a "natural", that's a matter of opinion. I think she's okay, but she's not amazing or anything.

I don't know why you infer that I don't think anyone else earned, but you'd be wrong. My only point is that Sasha has essentially become enhancement talent. She's over and good enough that they can throw her in any feud or match and it get some sort of response, but they constantly have her coming out on the losing end of championship opportunities or AT BEST she wins the title and holds it for not more than a month. She's the female "Dean Ambrose".

I've said it before, but Vince just doesn't get behind black wrestlers (male or female). IMO, in his mind, they can hold secondary belts, but he just won't commit to having a regular black wrestler as the "face" of the WWE. He'll make money of them (hence Sasha's face on damn near anything possible), but Vince likes "big, muscular white guys" or "blond, white women".

Becky's three month reign had one successful defense and she was out a month do to a medical emergency...

 

[Dr. Evil]

So if Asuka wins the title on Smackdown Live, does that mean Carmella will never cash in?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I don't care about any of them but from the bits I've seen it's easy to see why Alexa has been the franchise of the division, she wouldn't be in an indie promotion or in Japan, but in WWE she's perfect for what they sell.

Sasha is the best all round talent in the division from what I've seen, but she can be sloppy and yes, I do think her race is partly why she isn't given the real mega push.

Sasha almost killed herself on RAW last night. Asuka had to save her by kicking her in the face.

Sasha has been a bore since being a face imo. Consistently out worked both on the mic and in the ring. Her emotion just doesn't come off nearly as genuine imo. She doesn't sell getting beat up nearly as well. If the heelish Sasha from the last two nights comes back, she might have a chance. But she isn't better then Asuka, Charlotte, Becky, Nikki Cross, Peyton or Kairi imo. Not that Sasha is bad. She is rather good, and even great when a heel and on. But that isn't where she has been for a long time.

Also, while I agree on the race situation, the same applies to Asuka and Nakamura. Sasha got a big push, but she kept on getting hurt and being outperformed by Charlotte. Since they moved he to a none main event setting, he hasn't gotten hurt.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Sasha almost killed herself on RAW last night. Asuka had to save her by kicking her in the face.

Sasha has been a bore since being a face imo. Consistently out worked both on the mic and in the ring. If the heelish Sasha from the last two nights comes back, she might have a chance. But she isn't better then Asuka, Charlotte, Becky, Nikki Cross, Peyton or Kairi imo.

Also, while I agree on the race situation, the same applies to Asuka and Nakamura. Sasha got a big push, but she kept on getting hurt and being outperformed by Charlotte. Since they moved he to a none main event setting, he hasn't gotten hurt.

That sounds like a unique way of saving someone.

I have no idea who half of those people are but Sasha struggling as a face is no surprise, WWE have no idea how to book faces, unless you can get over as a whitemeat babyface like Bryan did, you're going to struggle, they remove all of the edge from them, it's like Rock and Austin never happened, those two were just as big a trash talking ***** as faces, as they were as heels, and fans loved them for it, but in the Cena era WWE the minute you turn face they remove your personality.


Vince wants a slice of the Japanese market, NJPW are no real threat to him but he'll still blunt them if he can with his own Japanese stars, Sasha doesn't offer Vince a signifigant money grab opportunity.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So if Asuka wins the title on Smackdown Live, does that mean Carmella will never cash in?

She'll cash in and lose.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That sounds like a unique way of saving someone.

I have no idea who half of those people are but Sasha struggling as a face is no surprise, WWE have no idea how to book faces, unless you can get over as a whitemeat babyface like Bryan did, you're going to struggle, they remove all of the edge from them, it's like Rock and Austin never happened, those two were just as big a trash talking ***** as faces, as they were as heels, and fans loved them for it, but in the Cena era WWE the minute you turn face they remove your personality.


Vince wants a slice of the Japanese market, NJPW are no real threat to him but he'll still blunt them if he can with his own Japanese stars, Sasha doesn't offer Vince a signifigant money grab opportunity.

I agree on the face problem. One of the fun things about AJ has been him still getting to keep a bit of his edge. Finn is being allowed to get some of that back right now. Brock is basically allowed to be Brock, same with Strowman. This should allow this more. Those more shades of grey. Would add a lot, and keep some over in such transitions.

I don't know if it is getting into the Japanese market, as much as wanting to show the talent there, they can make it in the WWE. But the women's division, with Asuka and Kairi, that is something New Japan should be making a thing and missed out on.

 

[famicommander]

WWE women on Ronda Rousey coming in

Sasha banks on Busted Open Radio:

I have nothing nice to say so I can't say anything at all. I have nothing to say about it.

Nia Jax on Twitter:

Cool she’s here....I guess 30 women making history can just be forgotten

Nikki Bella on Twitter, in response to a WWE tweet about Ronda's candid thoughts:

Wonder what all the 30 other women candid thoughts were too?

As for Borash, there are a lot of things he can do. He's a very good interviewer, he's a serviceable ring announcer and commentator, he's an experienced producer/writer, and he's great at talent relations.

And up until now he was at literally every single TNA/Impact/whatever they call it event ever, so he's pretty much seen it all. The good, the bad, and the ridiculously stupid.

 

[Dr. Evil]

She'll cash in and lose.

And the next Women's MITB will win when she cashes in.

SD Live prediction: Every woman tonight will want a shot at the title, even though Asuka has yet to make up her mind on who she wants to face.

 

[Dr. Evil]

So it looks like the alleged Roman Reigns steroid scandal is nothing.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So it looks like the alleged Roman Reigns steroid scandal is nothing.

Could I get an explanation on this?

 

[Doug_Moore]

Shout out to the production crew for the new match graphics. They're straight out of a fighting game.

Seriously why is Balor losing to Cena?!

McMahon gave up on him being a top guy as soon as he went down from an injury. He treats his wrestlers like horses.

Seriously! She hasn't since October. It's ridiculous.

At least she defends it on house shows.

So it looks like the alleged Roman Reigns steroid scandal is nothing.

Richard Rodriguez says he'll release Roman's texts. He needs to hurry up already!

 

[TheVileOne]

Except Roman Reigns.

 

[TheFuture]

With all due respect, I have taken issue with how Becky and Bayley have been booked...BUT say what you want, Becky had a solid 3 month reign as champion, same with Bayley (who, mind you was supposed to win the title back from Alexa Bliss right now if it wasn't for her injury).

In regards to how Alexa comes off to fans, she's had phenomenal booking. She rarely loses and damn near always makes the face look foolish in every feud she's been in. About her being a "natural", that's a matter of opinion. I think she's okay, but she's not amazing or anything.

I don't know why you infer that I don't think anyone else earned, but you'd be wrong. My only point is that Sasha has essentially become enhancement talent. She's over and good enough that they can throw her in any feud or match and it get some sort of response, but they constantly have her coming out on the losing end of championship opportunities or AT BEST she wins the title and holds it for not more than a month. She's the female "Dean Ambrose".

I've said it before, but Vince just doesn't get behind black wrestlers (male or female). IMO, in his mind, they can hold secondary belts, but he just won't commit to having a regular black wrestler as the "face" of the WWE. He'll make money of them (hence Sasha's face on damn near anything possible), but Vince likes "big, muscular white guys" or "blond, white women".

Didn't know Bayley was supposed to win the title back. They could have fooled me anyway because that extremes rules match and the pre/post match treatment of her was just utter burial. Genuinely one of the worst and blatant that I've seen.

Was glad to see Becky get her moment but it was extremely uneventful and I say that as an Irish man. Bliss, Naomi and Charlotte all had/having more memorable reigns than her.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Could I get an explanation on this?

A jailed Drug dealer says that Roman was a client of his. However, there has been no evidence to prove this.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

Borash didn't like my skittles question at the JR seminar I went to last year. But I got over with a comment I can't repeat here because it's a pg forum.