The Wrestling Thread MUST End In Pinball Or Submission - - - - - Part 222

[LOBO3315a]

It's probably an Eddie Gurrero situation where even though she was clean, the damage was done years ago and finally caught up to her. RIP Chyna.

 

[Mani-Man]

Its a damn shame.
Her mental health was already bad enough, but the wrestling community also didnt make it easy for her.

Sad that Hunter and Stephanie couldnt swallow their pride and reach out to her.
The reason why she isnt in the HOF is also stupid, considering that Trump, Hayes, Sunny and a Rapist is in Hall of Fame.

I would have liked to see her recover from everything and be welcomed in the wwe family again...sadly it will now only happen when she cant experience it and longer.

 

[chamber-music]

This weeks NXT thoughts.

I want to see No Way Jose either tag team with Fandango or feud with him. I think it will be entertaining.

"Who is this Jose, and why is he always being denied?" - Corey Graves

The helicopter spin dizziness made me laugh.

Joe yelling "Sit yo ass down" when he hit that STO on Apollo was badass.

Deonna 'I get my ass kicked badly' Purrazzo.

I can't wait to see a super stiff match with Nakamura and Ciampa.

Elias Sampson and Eva Marie are both going to get kicked to death next week.

 

[Pink Ranger]

The news about Chyna makes me sad. It's hard to see someone's life spiral downward like that.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Deonna 'I get my ass kicked badly' Purrazzo.

She should just change her name to The New Jersey Brawler.

 

[Iron_Stark]

RIP Chyna.

 

[OctaviusINC]

I seen Chyna at a comic book convention 8 or 9 years ago and she looked horribly disheveled and unnatural. She was dressed so oddly. And they way she talked and acted it didn't take a genius to realize she was on something. What's sad is my reaction was more of a "Well, I figured" response as I've seen many wrestlers go down that road.

About 3 months ago I was at a horror convention and she was making an appearance there. It was a smaller convention and the "autograph room" was very intimate and friendly. Chyna herself was standing in front of her table conversing with some fans. She really didn't have a line. She looked very good. She was fit as ever and dressed very well. She was laughing and was very friendly. I went up to her and just told her I was a fan and that she was always a "badass" and thanked her for her contributions. She was super kind about it and very genuine.

Walking away I was very happy for her. She seemed very happy and just the aura she gave off was so much more positive than that last time I seen her 8 years ago or so.

I was really hoping I'd get to hear her Hall of Fame speech one day soon, especially with the rebirth of the women's division. It's a shame.

RIP Chyna.

 

[TheCommissioner]

The Chyna news does not surprise me in the least. No point in playing the blame game even though there's plenty to go around. Just an overall shame that many of us probably saw coming. She's been in rough shape for years.

agreed, no good in making anyone the bad guy

she had issues, the WWE could have done a better job in mending fences, etc

RIP Chyna

 

[javonstokess]

Sad to hear about Chyna.

The WWE can sometimes take too long to rebuild bridges with the people who made them what they are today.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

RIP Chyna.

 

[Tvar10]

Hate to say it but when I saw the news about Chyna I really wasnt shocked...the only thing I was shocked about is that she was 45 years old....I always thought she was way older......still a tragedy tho and she was a pioneer in womens wrestling and wrestling in general

 

[RetroNaz]

Back to the Connor news, he just posted this on FB: https://www.facebook.com/thenotoriousmma/posts/1260441947357435


I am just trying to do my job and fight here.
I am paid to fight. I am not yet paid to promote.
I have become lost in the game of promotion and forgot about the art of fighting.
There comes a time when you need to stop handing out flyers and get back to the damn shop.
50 world tours, 200 press conferences, 1 million interviews, 2 million photo shoots, and at the end of it all I'm left looking down the barrel of a lens, staring defeat in the face, thinking of nothing but my incorrect fight preparation. And the many distractions that led to this.
Nothing else was going through my mind.
It is time to go back and live the life that got me this life.
Sitting in a car on the way to some dump in Conneticut or somewhere, to speak to Tim and Suzie on the nobody gives a **** morning show did not get me this life.
Talking to some lady that deep down doesn't give a **** about what I'm doing, but just wants some sound bites so she can maybe get her little tight ass a nice raise, and I'm cool with that too, I've been giving you all raises. But I need to focus on me now.
I'm coming for my revenge here.
I flew an entire team to Portugal and to Iceland to make my adjustments in preparation and fix my errors I made with the weight and the cardio prep.
With the right adjustments and the right focus, I will finish what I started in that last fight.
I will not do this if I am back on the road handing out flyers again.
I will always play the game and play it better than anybody, but just for this one, where I am coming off a loss, I asked for some leeway where I can just train and focus. I did not shut down all media requests. I simply wanted a slight adjustment.
But it was denied.
There had been 10 million dollars allocated for the promotion of this event is what they told me.
So as a gesture of good will, I went and not only saved that 10 million dollars in promotion money, I then went and tripled it for them.
And all with one tweet.
Keep that 10 mill to promote the other bums that need it. My shows are good.
I must isolate myself now.
I am facing a taller, longer and heavier man. I need to prepare correctly this time.
I can not dance for you this time.
It is time for the other monkeys to dance. I've danced us all the way here.
Nate's little mush head looks good up on that stage these days. Stuff him in front of the camera for it.
He came in with no **** to do that last one. I'd already done press conferences, interviews and shot the ads before RDA pulled out.
Maybe I'll hit Cabo this time and skull some shots pre-fight with no obligation.
I'm doing what I need for me now.
It is time to be selfish with my training again. It is the only way.
I feel the $400million I have generated for the company in my last three events, all inside 8 months, is enough to get me this slight leeway.
I am still ready to go for UFC 200.
I will offer, like I already did, to fly to New York for the big press conference that was scheduled, and then I will go back into training. With no distractions.
If this is not enough or they feel I have not deserved to sit this promotion run out this one time, well then I don't know what to say.
For the record also -
For USADA and for the UFC and my contract stipulations -
I AM NOT RETIRED.

 

[TX85]

 

[runawayboulder]

she had issues, the WWE could have done a better job in mending fences, etc

She never made it easy on them, let's be honest.

HHH's handled the questions about her on Austin's podcast as well as anyone could and at first she came back with the modest suggestion of being in the HoF as a member of DX. But it wasn't long after she went back to accusing him of beating her. The best course of action was to ignore her and hope she got it together.

 

[Benstamania]

She never made it easy on them, let's be honest.

HHH's handled the questions about her on Austin's podcast as well as anyone could and at first she came back with the modest suggestion of being in the HoF as a member of DX. But it wasn't long after she went back to accusing him of beating her. The best course of action was to ignore her and hope she got it together.

This. It's a shame about what happened to her.. But she made it pretty hard to mend the fence.

 

[The Apocalypse]

Back to the Connor news, he just posted this on FB: https://www.facebook.com/thenotoriousmma/posts/1260441947357435


I am just trying to do my job and fight here.
I am paid to fight. I am not yet paid to promote.
I have become lost in the game of promotion and forgot about the art of fighting.
There comes a time when you need to stop handing out flyers and get back to the damn shop.
50 world tours, 200 press conferences, 1 million interviews, 2 million photo shoots, and at the end of it all I'm left looking down the barrel of a lens, staring defeat in the face, thinking of nothing but my incorrect fight preparation. And the many distractions that led to this.
Nothing else was going through my mind.
It is time to go back and live the life that got me this life.
Sitting in a car on the way to some dump in Conneticut or somewhere, to speak to Tim and Suzie on the nobody gives a **** morning show did not get me this life.
Talking to some lady that deep down doesn't give a **** about what I'm doing, but just wants some sound bites so she can maybe get her little tight ass a nice raise, and I'm cool with that too, I've been giving you all raises. But I need to focus on me now.
I'm coming for my revenge here.
I flew an entire team to Portugal and to Iceland to make my adjustments in preparation and fix my errors I made with the weight and the cardio prep.
With the right adjustments and the right focus, I will finish what I started in that last fight.
I will not do this if I am back on the road handing out flyers again.
I will always play the game and play it better than anybody, but just for this one, where I am coming off a loss, I asked for some leeway where I can just train and focus. I did not shut down all media requests. I simply wanted a slight adjustment.
But it was denied.
There had been 10 million dollars allocated for the promotion of this event is what they told me.
So as a gesture of good will, I went and not only saved that 10 million dollars in promotion money, I then went and tripled it for them.
And all with one tweet.
Keep that 10 mill to promote the other bums that need it. My shows are good.
I must isolate myself now.
I am facing a taller, longer and heavier man. I need to prepare correctly this time.
I can not dance for you this time.
It is time for the other monkeys to dance. I've danced us all the way here.
Nate's little mush head looks good up on that stage these days. Stuff him in front of the camera for it.
He came in with no **** to do that last one. I'd already done press conferences, interviews and shot the ads before RDA pulled out.
Maybe I'll hit Cabo this time and skull some shots pre-fight with no obligation.
I'm doing what I need for me now.
It is time to be selfish with my training again. It is the only way.
I feel the $400million I have generated for the company in my last three events, all inside 8 months, is enough to get me this slight leeway.
I am still ready to go for UFC 200.
I will offer, like I already did, to fly to New York for the big press conference that was scheduled, and then I will go back into training. With no distractions.
If this is not enough or they feel I have not deserved to sit this promotion run out this one time, well then I don't know what to say.
For the record also -
For USADA and for the UFC and my contract stipulations -
I AM NOT RETIRED.

I really like Conor but shut up and do your job. You're not your own boss. You work for a company that pays you a ****load of money. I'm sure his contract states that promotion is part of the deal. Its not like the fight is 3 weeks away, it's 3 months. Relax.

 

[TX85]

Highlights from last night's Lucha Underground
[YT]8U3heADzORA[/YT]

Now one of my top favorite episodes, so many goodies!!

 

[JabarR]

RIP

 

[runawayboulder]

This. It's a shame about what happened to her.. But she made it pretty hard to mend the fence.

Triple H and Stephanie are certainly not free from scrutiny but let's be real, situations like this happen in everyday life. People get unhappy and break up all the time. It's when they all live under the same bubble, constantly under the microscope that makes it easier to judge.

Just an all around sad situation when depression and self-medicating wins over a person like that.

 

[nite-owl]

 

[Lobo]

Any news on when Randy Orton will return?

 

[Wheels]

Levis Valenzuela has potential but the No Way Jose gimmick has virtually no chance of success outside NXT. We haven't had a dancing gimmick sustain popularity in WWE since Too Cool, and that was like 16 years ago.

 

[Dr. Evil]

RIP to Chyna, but no recent death is more shocking than that of Prince.

 

[Slushy]

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(She gave me a shout out!)


THE GREAT FALL OF CHYNA:

Coming back to the US after teaching English to Japanese children for a few years, she was filming her documentary, doing interviews, working conventions, meeting countless fan, rekindling old friendships, and being very active on social media, despite all that for a promising turnaround, I had a feeling this day would come so I will reflect:

It was 2008 on a Wednesday if I remember correctly. I found out at the last minute Chyna was doing an autograph signing at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas. I went straight there after work only to find out I had missed her by a few minutes. Bummed, I was on my way back to the parking garage when I saw what I thought was her going out a side entrance of the shopping area I didn't know about. I wasn't sure if it was her so I darted out the same door and yelled

Excuse me, Chyna?

at the lady walking down this secret hallway.

The woman turned around and it was infact her! She was wearing sunglasses. I asked if I could take a picture with her and she obliged. She was with two guys. I think one of them was her manager. I told them I just got off work to meet her and he joked that I had good timing.

I wanted to talk to her a bit, but I could tell they were in a rush. I thanked her for the picture and kissed her on the hand, which got a big smile out of her.



Fast forward to last year as some of you may remember, I drove 5 and half hours to Los Angeles. This was my second time meeting her and poured my heart out to her after waiting an hour or so in line because of all the drama she's been through (having an abusive mother growing up, losing her boyfriend Triple H who IMO she felt was The One, losing her WWF job, having an abusive boyfriend afterwards, not getting many Hollywood gigs, drug & alcohol addiction, dabbling in porn and escorting etc.)

I basically cut a positive promo, it was something like

You've been through a lot. It sucks and I'm sorry, but look at all these people. They came here to see you because you're an inspiration. Thank you for everything that you did.

She was touched and talked to me for like 5 minutes (including everybody else that came to see her that day) despite having a long line and gave me a hug before signing my copy of her book for me. She told me her favorite match was against Jeff Jarrett at No Mercy 1999.

After showing her the picture we took back then, she followed me on Twitter and I would send her a positive message every now and then to keep her head up and she would like the messages like:

Depression is rough, but always remember that there are people out there who love you.

You are loved by so many people. Never forget that.

I did everything I could to help her, but in the end, you can't save somebody who doesn't want to be saved. RIP Chyna. I hope she has found peace now.

 

[Pink Ranger]

That is a very touching story, Slush. But you're right, sometimes people can never truly find peace in their lives, no matter how much support they get.