There might be a more serious FF3 and here's why.........

[coreymb16]

Chris Wants More Serious Fantastic Four
Chris Evans has been speaking out about The Fantastic Four films, and he's been quite honest about their lack of weight and the less than serious tone. It seems he wants them to change, and is promising it will for the third outing.

Chris Evans has said that there are a lot of people involved with the film and a lot with their own opinions, so it's tricky when all these opinions are fighting to be noticed. He says that they are getting there and everyone is making revisions. However his comments on what could be coming are the more interesting.

"I think I’d just like to see the characters grow up. I like to see them more mature. I think that we’re starting to see [with "Rise of the Silver Surfer"] that if we give these guys depth — if we don’t shy away from taking a more serious tone — it will still work, it will still be a family movie. We can make it real...I think that if this movie does ok and people respond with the appreciation of a more serious tone, hopefully [with] the third one we can inch closer to a legitimate cast and a legitimate film."

So he's after a film that we all want to see, something far more serious and darker, and yet still managing to be a family film. Well, a bit of a family film, not the kiddie friendly film we've seen in the first two outings.

In his comments over at MTV Movies Blog he has some other comments about one of his fellow actors

"Chiky [Michael Chiklis] does such a good job with The Thing...I think they should throw him a couple more bones with the plot and let him show some more depth [for part three]."

I think they could all do with some serious bucketfuls of levity. I've never really taken to the Four because of their childish appeal, but if they were to darken it more, bring more reality and seriousness to it, I could see myself being drawn in. Would you be?

source:http://www.chris-evansv.net/

 

[Hunter Rider]

Interesting,i think it's all about balance of the elements,FF is not naturally dark but you can be serious without the darkness.

I thought FF2 mostly got it right and was hurt in other areas of the production

 

[NQ-B]

I think I would definately prefer a FF film with a darker and more series tone. IMO I think the lightheartedness of FF2 help to hurt the film.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I saw the movie for the second time today, and I noticed three minor things that could have been done better and changed the tone of the film:

1. They should have removed any humor from the final 20 minutes to keep the intensity up - Ben and Reed getting smashed into the wall should have been cut and Doom's "let's go for a spin" (this film's "Marco Polo") should have been removed.

2. The actors should have toned down their expressions during the "funny lines" - there were several moments that were sort of funny but relatively realistic moments, but then the actors played them for laughs with overdone facial expressions - taking them from amusing to goofy.

3. During some of those same "funny" moments, the music went to a Tom and Jerryish "waaaa, waaaaa, waaa, waaaaaaaaaaa", again making simple moments go from amusing to stupid.

Those relatively simple fixes could have greatly changed the tone.

I was watching the director's cut with the commentary the other day, and Kevin Fiege, Avi Arad, Mark Frost and Tim Story were commenting on how the "Marco Polo" didn't really work.

. . . Well if it didn't work, WHY DIDN'T THEY FIX IT?!?!

If the "director's cut" was really a director's cut rather than an excuse to make a few extra bucks, they could have blanked out the "Marko Polo" audio very easily. Since he had a mask, we couldn't even see his lips move.

I think the most frustrating thing about these films isn't how far off they are, but how close they are . . . but then they blow it with some poor decisions at key moments.

 

[NQ-B]

Btw there is an interview with Jessica saying that she would like the addition of Franklin in the third one and that she has repeatly made that clear to Tim.
She says that she thinks it will be fun if there is a toddler with superpowers running around and them having to deal with that.
Jessica seems to want a more lightheart feel, well thats what came across to me in one interview.
So who knows which way this is going to go they may just keep the tone as it is.
But then didn't Ioan also say that he felt a that the light tone may hurt the movie.

 

[Agent 194]

I saw the movie for the second time today, and I noticed three minor things that could have been done better and changed the tone of the film:

1. They should have removed any humor from the final 20 minutes to keep the intensity up - Ben and Reed getting smashed into the wall should have been cut and Doom's "let's go for a spin" (this film's "Marco Polo") should have been removed.

2. The actors should have toned down their expressions during the "funny lines" - there were several moments that were sort of funny but relatively realistic moments, but then the actors played them for laughs with overdone facial expressions - taking them from amusing to goofy.

3. During some of those same "funny" moments, the music went to a Tom and Jerryish "waaaa, waaaaa, waaa, waaaaaaaaaaa", again making simple moments go from amusing to stupid.

Those relatively simple fixes could have greatly changed the tone.

I was watching the director's cut with the commentary the other day, and Kevin Fiege, Avi Arad, Mark Frost and Tim Story were commenting on how the "Marco Polo" didn't really work.

. . . Well if it didn't work, WHY DIDN'T THEY FIX IT?!?!

If the "director's cut" was really a director's cut rather than an excuse to make a few extra bucks, they could have blanked out the "Marko Polo" audio very easily. Since he had a mask, we couldn't even see his lips move.

I think the most frustrating thing about these films isn't how far off they are, but how close they are . . . but then they blow it with some poor decisions at key moments.

Willie,

Your observation about "let's go for a spin" is a good one.

I also like your observation of how close they are to making this good. I like alot of elements about the films.

I would like to add...I think there are elements of all these superhero movies that take up too much time. All the directors gripe about the time involved with "the origin" stories. I have to admit a big part of me wishes they just jumped in there full throttle where things already exist. That was great about The Incredibles. They just were. No origin. No explanation. Just being. And being done in a really cool way. Allthough it was a nice nod to the true fans out there, I think we could have done without the Surfer interrogation scene, or at least all the dialogue and exposition.

I would have loved to see the Surfer arriving in a jungle area and expressing his feelings to a bunch of gathering animals the way he did so poetically in the Buscema/Lee book ( I forget which issue that was--1?) instead of telling back story while in captivity. That one thing there would have added so much dimension to the character.

Okay, I'm getting off the subject of your post and just venting through the keyboard about something that's bothered me for years about these movies.

 

[Kelly]

Btw there is an interview with Jessica saying that she would like the addition of Franklin in the third one and that she has repeatly made that clear to Tim.
She says that she thinks it will be fun if there is a toddler with superpowers running around and them having to deal with that.
Jessica seems to want a more lightheart feel, well thats what came across to me in one interview.
So who knows which way this is going to go they may just keep the tone as it is.
But then didn't Ioan also say that he felt a that the light tone may hurt the movie.

Bringing a child into the mix does not necessarily mean automatically a lighter tone, the kids have been involved in recent arcs of the comics that have been FAR FROM A LIGHT TONE.....Franklin in Hell, yeah thats a bunch of laughs to be had....lol

 

[The Apatow Crew]

Btw there is an interview with Jessica saying that she would like the addition of Franklin in the third one and that she has repeatly made that clear to Tim.
She says that she thinks it will be fun if there is a toddler with superpowers running around and them having to deal with that.
Jessica seems to want a more lightheart feel, well thats what came across to me in one interview.
So who knows which way this is going to go they may just keep the tone as it is.
But then didn't Ioan also say that he felt a that the light tone may hurt the movie.

Where did you hear or read this interview at?

 

[NQ-B]

Bringing a child into the mix does not necessarily mean automatically a lighter tone, the kids have been involved in recent arcs of the comics that have been FAR FROM A LIGHT TONE.....Franklin in Hell, yeah thats a bunch of laughs to be had....lol

Yes i'm aware of what your saying, I just meant that I think Jessica Alba may prefer to keep the light tone that the film has.

 

[NQ-B]

Where did you hear or read this interview at?

I saw it. It was an interview in london, during the premiere of the film, I'll try and find it for you

 

[Kelly]

Yes i'm aware of what your saying, I just meant that I think Jessica Alba may prefer to keep the light tone that the film has.

Again, I think there is a balance you can have, and I think they would be happy with a tone change if it meant a better movie for #3.... but as of now the studio has not asked for a #3, so this may be premature....

 

[The Apatow Crew]

I saw it. It was an interview in london, during the premiere of the film, I'll try and find it for you

Oh okay then.

 

[NQ-B]

Again, I think there is a balance you can have, and I think they would be happy with a tone change if it meant a better movie for #3....

Yes I agree, I just hope that if they do go that route that they balance it well.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

I don't care what they chnage as long as FF3 gets made.

 

[Kelly]

I saw it. It was an interview in london, during the premiere of the film, I'll try and find it for you

It's Matt's interview with Jessica...

 

[NQ-B]

It's Matt's interview with Jessica...

Is it I don't think I saw that one, or maybe I just didn't know it was himt:

 

[The Apatow Crew]

It's Matt's interview with Jessica...

Can you post it?

Pretty please with sugar on top?

 

[NQ-B]

No the interview with Matt isn't the one I saw it's a different one

 

[Kelly]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=275754

 

[The Apatow Crew]

No the interview with Matt isn't the one I saw it's a different one

Is it on maestro's sight?

 

[NQ-B]

Do you still want me to post the one that I watched? That is if I can find

 

[Kelly]

It's right above you......I posted the thread where it is at....

 

[NQ-B]

http://uk.media.movies.ign.com/media/762/762424/vid_2021498.html
There it is, it took long enough.
Hope you enjoy it after such a long wait

 

[LostSon88]

So...

Torch wants a serious F4
Sue wants a lighthearted F4
Reed thinks lighthearted tone will hurt the F4
Thing needs more screentime.

Serious? Lighthearted?...whatever, I just want a good movie.

 

[SFII]

see, i understand where Chris is coming from. because his character, The Human Torch, is probably the most interesting and exciting of the 4 superheroes. He could be a legit superstar, with possibly his own spin-off movie. kindof like Wolverine and Magneto.
i feel like the producers have toned down The Human Torch's character(as well as all the Fantastic Four) a little too much. but oh well. he definitely was portrayed better in FF2 than in FF1. and hopefully in FF3 the Human Torch will mature a bit more(he's definitely headed that way) and become a stronger/serious superhero who just might warrant his own spin-off movie.

in FF3 hopefully he'll find love. that would be interesting if they brought in Firestar.