There might be a more serious FF3 and here's why.........

[Gilpesh]

We should be fine if they leave him a normal kid and not a superbaby.

If you thought fans made a fuss about Galactus...

 

[Bishop2]

If you thought fans made a fuss about Galactus...

Franklin hasn't had any superpowers for a long time now. They've been completely retconned out of him. There's no need for any fuss if he's powerless. It's better that way.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I wouldn't hold my breath for any major deviations for FF3 (if there is an FF3). If they suddenly make it uber serious, it won't really fit the tone of the trilogy. In fact, FF2 barely seems like it was made by the same folks who made the first juvenile film.

As long as this property is at FOX it will continue to appeal to the lowest denominator with audiences. It's pretty clear now that the studio just doesn't care about giving these kinds of films gravity.

 

[X-Maniac]

I wouldn't hold my breath for any major deviations for FF3 (if there is an FF3). If they suddenly make it uber serious, it won't really fit the tone of the trilogy. In fact, FF2 barely seems like it was made by the same folks who made the first juvenile film.

As long as this property is at FOX it will continue to appeal to the lowest denominator with audiences. It's pretty clear now that the studio just doesn't care about giving these kinds of films gravity.

Fox must have cared once, or they wouldn’t have hired Bryan Singer, tried to hire Zak Snyder, Matthew Vaughn and Alfonso Cuaron.

I think part of the problem is that the Pirates franchise has given film-makers the (wrong) idea that hammy humour is a must for summer movies. Even Spider-Man went down that route in the third movie, with the dancing sequence.

Also, because of the stigma attached to comicbook/superhero movies (the misocnception that they are fluffy, flimsy, popcorn), it could be that there are a limited number of directors/writers who are interested in being involved.

Payne did an okay job on FF2, but his previous credits (My Super Ex Girlfriend, The Simpsons) are not exactly enough to fill us with confidence.

 

[Bishop2]

I think part of the problem is that the Pirates franchise has given film-makers the (wrong) idea that hammy humour is a must for summer movies. Even Spider-Man went down that route in the third movie, with the dancing sequence.

Did you really think the dance sequence was so off-kilter for the Spidey films? I thought it was fairly in keeping with the tone of, say, the "Raindrops" sequence in SM2.

Payne did an okay job on FF2, but his previous credits (My Super Ex Girlfriend, The Simpsons) are not exactly enough to fill us with confidence.

What, like Simpsons never was worth a damn for all the years he wrote on it?

I don't care about his previous credits. Right now he has THIS film on his credit, and I loved it, and that's enough for me.

 

[Kelly]

Did you really think the dance sequence was so off-kilter for the Spidey films? I thought it was fairly in keeping with the tone of, say, the "Raindrops" sequence in SM2.



What, like Simpsons never was worth a damn for all the years he wrote on it?

I don't care about his previous credits. Right now he has THIS film on his credit, and I loved it, and that's enough for me.

I was wondering if I was going to read something worth applauding after the last couple of days....


Thank you....

 

[X-Maniac]

Did you really think the dance sequence was so off-kilter for the Spidey films? I thought it was fairly in keeping with the tone of, say, the "Raindrops" sequence in SM2.



What, like Simpsons never was worth a damn for all the years he wrote on it?

I don't care about his previous credits. Right now he has THIS film on his credit, and I loved it, and that's enough for me.

I actually didn’t mind the dancing sequence in SM3, but my partner hated it, and so did many other people. It did seem somewhat out of tone with the movie, which was like something with about three different directors working on it. But that’s an argument for another forum.

I also enjoyed FF2 a lot but I think it went overboard with hammy humour and brisk editing (both of which harmed its substance and depth). Payne’s involvement with Simpsons proves he can write dysfunctional family stuff, but both Simpsons and My Super Ex Girlfriend were spoofs that aren’t meant to be taken seriously. An entirely different ethos to Fantastic Four. Payne did a better job than Frost...but it still wasn’t quite there. Critics want all movies to strive to be of the quality to be Oscar candidates.

 

[Kelly]

I actually didn’t mind the dancing sequence in SM3, but my partner hated it, and so did many other people. It did seem somewhat out of tone with the movie, which was like something with about three different directors working on it. But that’s an argument for another forum.

I also enjoyed FF2 a lot but I think it went overboard with hammy humour and brisk editing (both of which harmed its substance and depth). Payne’s involvement with Simpsons proves he can write dysfunctional family stuff, but both Simpsons and My Super Ex Girlfriend were spoofs that aren’t meant to be taken seriously. An entirely different ethos to Fantastic Four. Payne did a better job than Frost...but it still wasn’t quite there. Critics want all movies to strive to be of the quality to be Oscar candidates.

It was more there than you think........what they write does not necessarily make it to the screen as written.....

 

[Eros]

Th franchise needs to pick up, because Fox may not care, but fans do. FF2 was a average action summer movie, but thats all, FF1 was a waste of time period. Judgeing by the seoncd week drop, the general audience didnt all care about seeing FF2 again.

 

[Sardaukar]

Honestly, I believe this franchise has already run out of steam. I'll be surprised if they make a third, though not overly so. I think a new FF flick will need new direction with a new creative team. Perhaps they may want to go so far as to hold off on it for a number of years and then re-imagine the whole concept ala Batman Begins. But I hope we don't have to wait a decade or more for it. And I hope that FOX isn't in charge when this happens.

But maybe these two films were good for the FF...good in the sense that now they'll feel forced to try something better next time.

 

[coreymb16]

They did step up from the first in a lot of ways and I don't understand why it's doing worse than the first at the box office.

 

[Bishop2]

They did step up from the first in a lot of ways and I don't understand why it's doing worse than the first at the box office.

Look at the movies that came ou in 2005.

Look at the movies that came out this year.

There's your answer.

That, and the fact that after people actually SAW the first movie they naturally lost interest in a sequel 'cause it sucked the first time... they don't care that the sequel is worlds better.

 

[batdude]

There is more competition this year, but like I said, A big name actor playing a villian in addition to the Surfer might have helped get more people. Not really needed from a story point of view, but just to get more butts in the theater.