Apocalypse These Timelines Are So Confusing. Continuity Errors.

[Batsfan1]

I think his birthday has changed.
Origins was set in 1979 and he was about 17/18 years old in there.

Honestly, I don't buy into XMO taking place in 1979. I know that that's when the incident happened in real life, but the movie doesn't give a specific date and I've even heard theory that this could take place after that. Have a very great day you and everyone!

God bless you! God bless everyone!

 

[marvelrobbins]

There is no way of knowing when original trilogy,main events of origins,and the wolverine actully took place.

it;s heavily speculted original trilogy took place sometime in the 2000's.Kinberg once hinted at that.Kinberg once said origins takes place In 1970's.it's
though the wolverine takes place in early 2010's but that's specultion.

People are creating more problems than there need to be.it's made clear In DOFP that if successful last 50 years wouldn't happen.

original trilogy gone
origins from vietnam on erased
the wolverine

These are only timeline people should worry about now

Ancient egypt-DOFP,Apocalypse

1845-WWI-Origins

1944-Origins,First Class

1945-The Wolverine WWII scenes

1962-First Class

1973-DOFP

1983-Apocalypse

present day-Deadpool

2023-DOFP

New wolverine film is sometime post 2023 ending of DOFP.X-force apparently Is set after wolverine film.

It appears deadpool sequel will be In present day.

timeframe of gambit and the new mutants remains to be seen.

the plan for next X-men film apparently is to go In 1990's.

the ages of characters in 1973- original 2023 of trilogy,origins,and the wolverine are ilrelvent.some just want to make it harder and confusing than it needs to be.

 

[Mutant 77]

Timeline Prime A:

1. Logan is recruited in Vietnam. I assume it happened in 1969. He spent many years as memeber of Team X. In 1973, he retired (Africa). 6 years later, as stated in the movie, he is then turned into Weapon X.

2- There's evidence on-screen that X2 is placed in 2004. There's evidence on-screen TLS is placed in 2005 as well.

First Class and The Wolverine never happened in the very very original timeline.


By the way, Raven was 10 in 1944, according to the credits.

 

[Mutant 77]

Storm in "Origins" could be canon after all...

Timeline Prime A:

Wolverine quitted Team X in 1973, at the end of the African mission. On a deleted scene of "Origins", you can see Storm as a 8/10 years old little girl.
The timeline has later changed, but maybe Storm's birth was unaffected. Indeed, she is 18/20 years old in Apocalypse (set in 1983).

About her white hair:

1- In Timeline Prime A, she had a trauma much earlier and her hair became white when she was little.

OR

2- In Timeline Sigma, she dyed her hair "brunette", and Apocalypse got rid of that.

 

[DarkSouls]

I feel like you're putting too much thought into this mate. How about... the simplest solution is the easiest one? There's no unknown mutant, this isn't Warren Worthington III, Origins didn't take place during that incident in 1979, Scott and Jean are around sixteen in Apocalypse and yeah. You're putting way too much thought into this.

 

[X-Human36]

I originally placed this in another thread, so I'll enter my post here.

I was going over the timeline discussion for a while, and, while it is a mess, this is how I would view the 9 movies once "Wolverine 3" arrives in theaters next year.

Start with the Original Trilogy: X1/X2/X3
then
the Wolverine Spin-off Trilogy: XO: Wolverine, The Wolverine, and untitled "Wolverine 3"
and finally
the First Class Trilogy: X: FC, X: DoFP, X:A.

Deadpool, untitled "Deadpool 2", and "Deadpool 3" will continue the saga in present day and will probably be its own thing.

Hopefully, this method would cause the least amount of headaches when following the entire saga. I hope to see the movies broken up into trilogy box sets including the upcoming Deadpool films. Is X-Force essentially going to be "Deadpool 3"? What about the New Mutants?

 

[Mutant 77]

I feel like you're putting too much thought into this mate. How about... the simplest solution is the easiest one? There's no unknown mutant, this isn't Warren Worthington III, Origins didn't take place during that incident in 1979, Scott and Jean are around sixteen in Apocalypse and yeah. You're putting way too much thought into this.

I'm having a lot of fun. It's part of the fun, you know.

 

[Warhammer]

Aside from a few goofs, the continuity of the X-films (excluding Deadpool) flow quite well if X-Men Origins: Wolverine is ignored. X-Men: First Class, The Wolverine, and X-Men: Days of Future Past already ignore the film. There's no sense in any of us trying to include it either.

 

[Mutant 77]

Aside from a few goofs, the continuity of the X-films (excluding Deadpool) flow quite well if X-Men Origins: Wolverine is ignored. X-Men: First Class, The Wolverine, and X-Men: Days of Future Past already ignore the film. There's no sense in any of us trying to include it either.

Not quite. Angel is a young guy in 2005, according to TLS. Xavier met Erik in 1949, according to X1.

The timeline changed after "The Last Stand". FC is the result of that.

 

[RalphieRandy]

Not quite. Angel is a young guy in 2005, according to TLS. Xavier met Erik in 1949, according to X1.

The timeline changed after "The Last Stand". FC is the result of that.

They never say how old angel was in TLS. We also don't know his age in apocalypse. His father looked old as dirt in both the scene where young angel tries cutting off his wings and when angel's older. Assuming his mother was just as old, it's not that big of a stretch that he was just conceived earlier.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Why did Moira forget meeting Xavier when in First Class she could remember everything up to the point they left the CIA Institute (and knew Xavier wiped her mind as well)?

 

[Mutant 77]

They never say how old angel was in TLS. We also don't know his age in apocalypse. His father looked old as dirt in both the scene where young angel tries cutting off his wings and when angel's older. Assuming his mother was just as old, it's not that big of a stretch that he was just conceived earlier.

Yes. But the timeline apparently changed in 1973, and "Apocalypse" is set in 1983. So the "conceived before" Angel should be 10 in "Apocalypse". t:

NO, the timeline changed TWICE, and Angel 2 was conceived in 1965.

 

[Warhammer]

Not quite. Angel is a young guy in 2005, according to TLS.

Angel is a goof on the writer's part. But since he isn't a major character in either of his films, it's rather trivial. It's definitely an inconsistency, but it's still trivial in the grand scheme of things.

Xavier met Erik in 1949, according to X1.

Xavier and Erik did not meet in 1949 as teenagers. Erik immigrated to the US in 1949.

The timeline changed after "The Last Stand". FC is the result of that.

No, it didn't. First Class happens no matter what.

 

[Flint Marko]

Why did Moira forget meeting Xavier when in First Class she could remember everything up to the point they left the CIA Institute (and knew Xavier wiped her mind as well)?

Same reason Wolverine (whose whole schtick is memory loss) was able to remember the Japanese guy he saved during WWII: because they wanted to tell the story a certain way, regardless of continuity.

 

[Havok83]

They never say how old angel was in TLS. We also don't know his age in apocalypse. His father looked old as dirt in both the scene where young angel tries cutting off his wings and when angel's older. Assuming his mother was just as old, it's not that big of a stretch that he was just conceived earlier.

That literally makes no sense. The oldest Angel could be in this film is 10 years old bc 1973 is the point where the timeline changed. He is clearly like twice as old as that. Its an inconsistency and this born earlier theory doesnt fly. (no pun intended).

 

[Batsfan1]

Aside from a few goofs, the continuity of the X-films (excluding Deadpool) flow quite well if X-Men Origins: Wolverine is ignored. X-Men: First Class, The Wolverine, and X-Men: Days of Future Past already ignore the film. There's no sense in any of us trying to include it either.

It only flows well if you ignore all of the original trilogy and XMO: W. There are contradictions in all of those movies to the FC-DOFP-A timeline.

Angel is a goof on the writer's part. But since he isn't a major character in either of his films, it's rather trivial. It's definitely an inconsistency, but it's still trivial in the grand scheme of things.

Xavier and Erik did not meet in 1949 as teenagers. Erik immigrated to the US in 1949.

No, it didn't. First Class happens no matter what.

Xavier says in X-Men 1 that he and Erik met when he was 17. He says he helped him build cerebro. He has no knowledge about the helmet that Erik has. His exact words are, "He seems to have found a way to shield himself from it." And when he interrogates Erik through a mind controlled Sabortooth, Erik says, "Can't you read my mind?" and points at his helmet or something. All of these things are contradicted in FC. Have a very great day you and everyone!

God bless you! God bless everyone!

 

[Warhammer]

You're right. I take back all that I said. There are tons of things I completely missed (older Xavier and Magneto recruiting Jean Grey in the 80s, their initial meeting, etc. F***, these X-films are f***ed.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

X2 still is my fave but the newer films may take its place...as much as I will miss what came before, it's time to let it go...let them go. What we have is decent enough until hopefully we'll get better writers and go from there. My only two favorite films of the new ones are First Class and Apocalypse. I think they should have held off on doing DOFP...where they could have either done a movie in between FC and X:A or after X:A...but guess that ship has sailed and they're going to go with another slate of films taking place after that. Which is fine but...I am a little skeptical about how the characters will look in terms of age. I dunno. Unless theres going to be another time travel...I honestly don't know how this will work itself out. lols

 

[DarkSouls]

It only flows well if you ignore all of the original trilogy and XMO: W. There are contradictions in all of those movies to the FC-DOFP-A timeline.Xavier says in X-Men 1 that he and Erik met when he was 17. He says he helped him build cerebro. He has no knowledge about the helmet that Erik has. His exact words are, "He seems to have found a way to shield himself from it." And when he interrogates Erik through a mind controlled Sabortooth, Erik says, "Can't you read my mind?" and points at his helmet or something. All of these things are contradicted in FC. Have a very great day you and everyone!

God bless you! God bless everyone!

I always took the "can't detect it" as referring to the lair being shielded from Cerebro and the "can't read my mind" as "bro, c'mon, you know me". The latter made it seem like, yeah this is X-Men but plenty of other stories have been in this world. It gave a sense of universe.

 

[Longshot777]

Rewatched DOFP, and at the end Stryker got Wolverine from the river but then Stryker was Mystique on that scene!!! WTF!!!

Because in Apocalypse, Wolverine was captured by Stryker.

So that whole Mystique impersonating Stryker scene was POINTLESS!!

Dude, Bryan Singer, do you even watch your movies before making their sequels??

 

[Havok83]

Rewatched DOFP, and at the end Stryker got Wolverine from the river but then Stryker was Mystique on that scene!!! WTF!!!

Because in Apocalypse, Wolverine was captured by Stryker.

So that whole Mystique impersonating Stryker scene was POINTLESS!!

Dude, Bryan Singer, do you even watch your movies before making their sequels??

this was mentioned before but you missed the point of that. A theme mentioned in DOFP is that you cant completely change the future as time has a way of correct itself and setting things back on their natural path. This is an example of this. Wolverine was always meant to get adamantium via the Weapon X program. Its been 10 years since that scene in DOFP. Its not inconceivable that Wolverine would have been captured by the real Stryker at some point within that decade.

 

[ApophènX]

Dude, Bryan Singer, do you even watch your movies before making their sequels??

Actually he does and you don't

X2 and DoFP ends the same, soleone drowning and resurect.

XMA begin with someone getting healing powers and being burried. You see the pattern?

 

[Kanon]

this was mentioned before but you missed the point of that. A theme mentioned in DOFP is that you cant completely change the future as time has a way of correct itself and setting things back on their natural path. This is an example of this. Wolverine was always meant to get adamantium via the Weapon X program. Its been 10 years since that scene in DOFP. Its not inconceivable that Wolverine would have been captured by the real Stryker at some point within that decade.

I refuse to believe the point of the movie about traveling back in time and succesfully changing the future is "you cant completely change the future". That's exactly what happened in DoFP! they completely changed the future, from a post apocalyptic wasteland where the few remaining mutants are hunted to a thriving (maybe utopical) mutant community in Xavier's school.

 

[ApophènX]

I refuse to believe the point of the movie about traveling back in time and succesfully changing the future is "you cant completely change the future". That's exactly what happened in DoFP! they completely changed the future, from a post apocalyptic wasteland where the few remaining mutants are hunted to a thriving (maybe utopical) mutant community in Xavier's school.

They said it in a interview, there was a metaphor with the flow of a river.

DoFP beggin like X1/FC and ends like X2

 

[Kanon]

They said it in a interview, there was a metaphor with the flow of a river.

Looks like the main storyline in the movie negates the intended symbolism in the metaphor