Apocalypse These Timelines Are So Confusing. Continuity Errors.

[BMM]

Taking the time to address something like that in the film is an even worse idea than not addressing it at all.

 

[Longshot777]

Here is the time line:

-X-men

-X2

-DOFP changed the whole continuity ala Flash in Flashpoint Paradox

-Apocalypse

Just skip X3, First Class and the Wolverine movies.

And there you go....continuity fixed. This is what Bryan Singer would have wanted since he obviously just throwing stuff in the wall and see if it's stick with his storytelling.

 

[wampa1]

Off-screen, there are other mutants jumping around in time (like Cable or someone) changing the timeline.

I say again. It explains everything.

 

[Havok83]

I say again. It explains everything.

which IMO is dumb. If thats the case, why even have continuity? Why even debate anythign in these movies then if things if drastic things are changing offscreen that is never shown? Whats to stop the next film from opening up with a younger Alex next to Scott. Oh someone must have changed the history between movies. Or the next film having the team go to space and its retocnned that this is the[BLACKOUT] first time Jean ever goes Phoenix[/BLACKOUT]? These films should respect each other and whats already been established. Not really feeling this notion that mutants are just jumping around changing the timeline between films

 

[wampa1]

Why even debate anythign in these movies then if things if drastic things are changing offscreen that is never shown?

Exactly. Debating this stuff is a waste of time, IMO. It's already been established that there is time-travel in this universe and it can alter timelines. Trying to reconcile continuity discrepancies is as futile here as it is for say, Doctor Who. As long as the story is consistent within each individual movie irrespective of prior installments, I'm cool with that.

As the 10th Doc would say, "Timey wimey."

 

[Havok83]

Exactly. Debating this stuff is a waste of time, IMO. It's already been established that there is time-travel in this universe and it can alter timelines. Trying to reconcile continuity discrepancies is as futile here as it is for say, Doctor Who. As long as the story is consistent within each individual movie irrespective of prior installments, I'm cool with that.

As the 10th Doc would say, "Timey wimey."

in that case then there's no point of them even doing trilogies or sequels. Each film should just be standalone and not pick up on anything that came before it

 

[wampa1]

in that case then there's no point of them even doing trilogies or sequels. Each film should just be standalone and not pick up on anything that came before it

Cool : )

 

[marvelrobbins]

If Apocalypse is box office disappointment it doesn't matter about timeline.

 

[Fist of Khonshu]

Why try and make sense of something that the producers ain't even trying to do, how far can this go? make up an excuse and then next film changes something else, then make another excuse and it happens again

It's pretty sloppy storytelling when fans are forced to do mental gymnastics to explain away various errors, gaps and discrepancies.

 

[Fist of Khonshu]

X-Men films could really benefit from a straight up reboot. Modern day, new cast, new take. No worries about messed up continuity

And I wish Marvel Studios could get their rights back too.

Wherever and whenever a reboot happens though, Simon Kinberg needs to be kept faar away from it!

 

[Spicy]

So I'm guessing Nightcrawler isn't Mystique's son?

 

[Spider-Fan83]

^ given all the other family connections addressed in the movie, I was surprised that it wasn't touch upon... or at the very least that Mystique didn't mention to Nightcrawler that she knew his father (maybe because his father was a bad guy she figured she was spearing him from the truth?)
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honestly, though, most the continues questions that I find myself thinking about are about the original timeline, not the new one

 

[fallenAngel]

Pretty nifty timeline thing

http://steviesomethin.tumblr.com/image/145024435655

This is cool.

Though it could be debated whether Deadpool is actually in this universe at all. Other than him referencing McAvoy and Stewart, but that's Deadpool.

Show me something X-Men related (besides maybe Evolution) that strictly adheres to it's own continuity and I'll buy you a coke.

Even the 90's animated series made no sense at times.

 

[AgentGojiraRgr]

It's simple:

First timeline

Origins (1979), X1 (2004), X2 (2004), X3 (2005).

Then a mutant travels back to the past, say 1913. He alters the timeline.

Second timeline

First Class (1962), Revised Origins, Revised X1/X2/X3, The Wolverine (2013), DOFP (2023).

Then Wolverine travels back to the past of the second timeline.

Third timeline

First Class (1962), DOFP (1973), Apocalypse (1983), Deadpool (2016), New Future (2023), Wolverine 3(?).

http://x-continuity.blogspot.it/p/essential-timeline.html

I really like this one

 

[Mutant 77]

I really like this one

Thank you so much, man. It's a labour of love.

 

[GuestStar2004]

i think the thing about apocalypse is that it still treated itself like a prequel while also taking it in a completely different direction and while that was likely all on bryan singer many don't quite get it because people say oh i see what they did there with jean and logan and that explains why in the OT he has a fondness for her... well that would mean those same events happen in the OT too and i assume that can't be the case for obvious reasons.

i think there is alot of that where people who don't get whats canon and what isn't

 

[Mutant 77]

i think the thing about apocalypse is that it still treated itself like a prequel while also taking it in a completely different direction and while that was likely all on bryan singer probably many don't quite get it because people say oh i see what they did there with jean and logan and that explains why in the OT he has a fondness for her... well that would mean those same events happen in the OT too and i assume that can't be the case for obvious reasons

Time repeats itself. It's a river. Remember?

 

[GuestStar2004]

Time repeats itself. It's a river. Remember?

Certainly didn't with nightcrawler, how did the kids get into akali lake? thanks to nightcrawler, did they know who he was in X2? nope

doesn't matter how much you wrap off screen logic around it... show don't tell.

 

[Mutant 77]

Certainly didn't with nightcrawler, how did the kids get into akali lake? thanks to nightcrawler, did they know who he was in X2? nope

doesn't matter how much you wrap off screen logic around it... show don't tell.

Of course. It's not a prequel. The timeline has been altered for the second time. But some events are doomed to repeat themselves... in a different form.

 

[ToilesHeroiques]

It's simple:

First timeline

Origins (1979), X1 (2004), X2 (2004), X3 (2005).

Then a mutant travels back to the past, say 1913. He alters the timeline.

Second timeline

First Class (1962), Revised Origins, Revised X1/X2/X3, The Wolverine (2013), DOFP (2023).

Then Wolverine travels back to the past of the second timeline.

Third timeline

First Class (1962), DOFP (1973), Apocalypse (1983), Deadpool (2016), New Future (2023), Wolverine 3(?).

http://x-continuity.blogspot.it/p/essential-timeline.html

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Yes, the solution is a system with three timelines. It allows to connect everything together, even the viral marketing stuff (25moments, TheBentBullet, etc).

I think the breaking point is in 1963 (when Azazel and Tempest are murdered by Project WideAwake, a team appointed by President Kennedy to study the mutant question. Other mutants are killed by the population. It's 'The Summer of Hate'. => Mystique goes crazy => Apocalyptic Timeline ≠ Original Timeline).

 

[Mutant 77]

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Yes, the solution is a system with three timelines. It allows to connect everything together, even the viral marketing stuff (25moments, TheBentBullet, etc).

I think the breaking point is in 1963 (when Azazel and Tempest are murdered by Project WideAwake, a team appointed by President Kennedy to study the mutant question. Other mutants are killed by the population. It's 'The Summer of Hate'. => Mystique goes crazy => Apocalyptic Timeline ≠ Original Timeline).

I'm REALLY glad you agree. Have you read my section?

1963 cannot be the breaking point, because Moira Version II is born in 1932.

 

[dax]

Of course. It's not a prequel. The timeline has been altered for the second time. But some events are doomed to repeat themselves... in a different form.

Technically, Apocalypse is only a prequel to the Days of Future Past ending with Wolverine waking up back in the future.

 

[Mutant 77]

Technically, Apocalypse is only a prequel to the Days of Future Past ending with Wolverine waking up back in the future.

Right. And "Deadpool" too.

 

[marvelrobbins]

when X-force gets made contunity is likely going to get worse.i would say very likely olivia munn reprises her role in that which is set in future since they are introducing x-23 in wolverine solo film to be new wolverine In X-force.

 

[Mutant 77]

when X-force gets made contunity is likely going to get worse.i would say very likely olivia munn reprises her role in that which is set in future since they are introducing x-23 in wolverine solo film to be new wolverine In X-force.

Cinematic mutants age a bit slower and much better than humans.