They Say He Drinks Blood: The Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Sawyer]

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Bill has posted two Batman: The Imposter related tweets in the last few days. The second possibly suggesting Detective Blair Wong will be a character.

I seem to recall he posted a page/panel a few weeks back featuring that book’s Leslie Thompkins.

After The Penguin introduced Sofia and Oz’s mom to the mix, it would be nice if Part II had a variety of women, rather than Nolan’s method of “Okay, you get one girl. Two, if you behave yourselves.”

 

[NotToday]

With all this spec about Robin potentially joining the Reeves-verse;

• Do we actually have evidence of how RPattz is with child actors?
• What age for Dick Grayson? (I figure high school age -- 14-18 -- would be best.)
• Any fancasts for Dick/Robin? Or are we assuming it's going to be an relative unknown?

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There's some discussion about Robin's appearances and non-appearances in the main news thread, and my $0.02: I think the reason he's been mostly absent in the live-action movies has less to do with the character itself, or if writers/directors are interested in using him, but it's more about:
adding a child (and child actor) as a main character to these big budget action/VFX/"gritty" spectacles that are mainly aimed at adults.

Of course, it has and can be done, but clearly Hollywood doesn't think it's worth the trouble, considering how rarely it's been done -- looking at the top superhero/comic films.

 

[Pennywise]

As I mentioned in another thread, never heard of this site, take it with a huge grain of salt.

 

[SupermansPal]

As I mentioned in another thread, never heard of this site, take it with a huge grain of salt.

Inb4 the Snyderbros start saying "he's copying Affleck by featuring Arkham!11!1!!"

 

[Sawyer]

I believe nothing until I see Matt Reeves post a gif.

 

[J.Drangal]

I believe nothing until I see Matt Reeves post a gif.

Same.
But I have to say, it would be really funny if “Oz Cobb” was somehow a necessary change, while the sequel’s villain would be named “Amadeus Arkham"...

 

[Boom]

Watch it be Hugo Arkham.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Watch it be Hugo Arkham.

This would annoy me but I couldn’t validly complain about it because it makes so much narrative and lore sense.

They’re absolutely not calling a guy Hugo Strange. I don’t like that, I still think Oz Cobb was absurd, but it ain’t gonna happen.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

This would annoy me but I couldn’t validly complain about it because it makes so much narrative and lore sense.

They’re absolutely not calling a guy Hugo Strange. I don’t like that, I still think Oz Cobb was absurd, but it ain’t gonna happen.

Imagine thinking Hugo Strange sounds "less read" then Oz Cobb. :funny;

 

[WayneMB]

dunno why people keep saying Oz Cobb, seems like it's self-destructive trying to force yourself to hate this nothing burger name change. his name is Oswald Cobb lol

 

[SupermansPal]

Strange is an actual surname, unlike Cobblepot.

 

[donuts]

Yeah, I don't get the name change in this case... At all.

 

[Boom]

I'm biased for obvious reasons, but Hugo Strange seems like a perfectly believable name.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

dunno why people keep saying Oz Cobb, seems like it's self-destructive trying to force yourself to hate this nothing burger name change. his name is Oswald Cobb lol

I am aware. I don't think its a huge deal, I just think its lame and pointless lol.

 

[solidsnake86]

I actually know someone with the last name Stranges.

 

[J.Drangal]

I am aware. I don't think its a huge deal, I just think its lame and pointless lol.

I don't know if it was my kidding remark that started the debate, but yeah, I agree.

I can understand that a name change could eventually serve a reinvention—like Cobb, which probably sounds less noble than Cobblepot—but when it comes to a supposed credibility, it seems like a pointless effort to me.
I mean, I know a gastroenterologist whose name, in my language, means “Guts” and an accountant whose name means “Bribe”. So I can live with "E.Nygma", "Victor Fries", "Harley Quinzel" and maybe even with a Two-Face who might be called "Harvey Flipcoin"...

However, if a creator is uncomfortable with a name, I would rather they change it than mock it through a sarcastic line within the story...

 

[Luke995]

Recently, I crossed with Gates of Gotham. I was quite surprised about the presence of Elliot Bridge, explicitly mentioned in The Penguin.
Plus, the bridge is in the Gotham's mark in Reevesverse.

I know that Reeves loves doing references, but by know I see as a fact that we will see Thomas Elliot, I'm still doubtful about Hush.

Plus, in that comic there are flasbacks about Edward Elliot, Cobblepot family, Waynes and Kanes.
I mean, if you take that, you change Kanes with Arkhams and Cobblepot with Cobbs from Court of Owls, and consider that william Cobb was a circus acrobat...
Mixing and changing stuffs you can have both a mystery that digs into Gotham history and involves Dick Grayson and some seeds for spinoff or maybe a plan by Oz to force a non-existent lineage (a bit like in Batman Returns).

I hope it won't be too much about the past: I trust in Reeves but I fear an Indiana Jones-effect. But if done properly and about a present history which has a basis in events that occurred between the 1980s and the 2000s (not XIX centuries), I'm fully in.

I have the feelings that it would be a very epic and large story (a big conspiracy thriller like in the comics has never been done in movies!) and I imagine why it's been so long to write to be coherent.

So, my guesses about the new characters at the moment are:
- Lincoln March or William Cobb (or mixed) --> Owlman or Talon
- Thomas Elliot
- Hugo Strange or Jeremiah Arkham (or mixed)
- Dick Grayson
- Leslie Thompkins
- Harvey Dent (role of the Oz's size in Part I).

 

[SupermansPal]

I honestly wouldn't mind if it was retconned that the Cobb(lepot)s were a wealthy family but one of Oz's ancestors screwed up and lost their fortune.