Tim Burton's Dark Shadows

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I grew up on the old school stuff so...

1. Batman
2. Beetlejuice
3. Pee-Wee's Big Adventure
4. Edward Scissorhands
5. Batman Returns
 
The only movies Burton's made that I didn't like were Planet of the Apes and Alice in Wonderland. All of his other stuff I either really love or just enjoy thoroughly.

And on the topic of Dark Shadows, I'm dying for some kind of news about this movie. We haven't even seen a poster yet.
 
I never understood the big problem everyone has with Burton's Charlie in the Chocolate Factory. I quite like it.

I like it, but it just doesn't feel like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. The film's color palette is to dark and the songs are terrible.
 
The songs were great. :o
 
The songs were great. :o

Well everyone is entitled to their opinion. I can't remember ever humming one of them, or remembering much about them other then not liking them. And I watched the film recently on ABC Family. The Willy Wonka songs, I have caught myself more then once singing in inopportune times. :O
 
Burton's Wonka gets a lot of crap because people can't let go of their nostalgic feelings for the original.
 
Burton's Wonka gets a lot of crap because people can't let go of their nostalgic feelings for the original.

To a certain degree yes, but I just felt 'Charlie' was all over the place. And because Depp's performance was a little disconnected so when he had to step it up in the emotion department, he didn't deliver.

To me despite all the modern flash that 'Charlie' had, the original had more..genuine moments.
 
Yeah, the original did have more heart. And that's why it's so beloved. But I think that Burton's version got the story's moral lesson a lot better. In the original, Wonka was kind of a jackass. When he shouted at Charlie it just seemed cruel. There was no reason for that. In Burton's remake, Charlie is treated better and is essentially the voice of reason for everyone involved, including Wonka himself.
 
Indeed. Burton can find genuine heart and emotion in the most surprising places--just watch Beetlejuice or especially Edward Scissorhands for proof. But CATCF left me cold.
 
The problem was Depp's Wonka was a little bit too weird for his own good. It's a good performance and you can't see Depp, but it's not quite Wonka. Wilder just got everything right with that character. He was cold, dry, sarcastic, crazy, and warm. You laughed at him and were mystified by him in the factory, you were terrified by him at the end when he yelled at Charlie, but you loved him when he told Charlie he had won.
 
Burton's Wonka gets a lot of crap because people can't let go of their nostalgic feelings for the original.

No it gets a lot of crap because its just not that good of a movie independently. I actually think in some ways it should have been even more different from the original.
 
Nov 11 2011 10:47 AM EST 2,712
'Dark Shadows': Ruminations On Vampire Movie Plot
How true to the 1960s original TV series will Tim Burton's adaptation be?
By John Mitchell

If you like your vampires dark, monstrous and allergic to sunlight — as opposed to sparkling and smoldering with teenage angst — this story's for you. We'll be diving deep into the world of "Dark Shadows," director Tim Burton's big-screen adaptation of the classic late-'60s/ early-'70s otherworldly soap opera, which will feature Johnny Depp, Michelle Pfeiffer, Chloë Moretz and Helena Bonham Carter.

Unlike some of 2012's other tentpole releases, like "The Hunger Games," "The Dark Knight Rises" and "The Avengers," "Dark Shadows" isn't as present in the collective national consciousness because its source material is more than 40 years old. Many people may not even know that it is based on a sprawling, 1,225-episode melodrama about 200-year-old vampire Barnabas Collins (Depp), who is reawakened in the late 1960s and tries to forge a relationship with his descendants and a familiar-seeming governess without revealing his dark secret.

Yes, Tim Burton is making a good old-fashioned vampire movie. Early set pictures indicate he is keeping with the Gothic aesthetic that set the TV show — and its short-lived 1991 reincarnation — apart from just about anything else on the tube.

"It goes back to Tim's roots," Moretz told MTV News at this year's Spike Scream Awards. "It goes back to the true Tim, and I love it because he gets in it. He's in that little circle with Michelle and Helena and Johnny, and it just, it happens. Everything goes down in the movie."

Not much is known about the plot of the top-secret production. However, we recently gleaned a little bit of info from three-time-Oscar-winning costume designer Colleen Atwood that should give fans of the show at least some insight into what Burton and Co. are cooking up for the May 11, 2012, release.

"There're some period scenes in the movie as well, so it goes back and forth, without totally giving away everything," Atwood said.

The soap's story line was so sprawling that it was hard to even venture a guess which elements of the original's plot would make it into Burton's film. What follows is speculation, yes, but Atwood's assurance that we will be traveling back and forth in time points to a specific story from the original that was also central to the '90s re-vamp (pun intended).

During a séance at Collinwood mansion, Victoria Winters (played here by newcomer Bella Heathcote) is transported back to 1795, to the time immediately before Barnabas was turned into a vampire by his former lover Angelique (Eva Green), a witch with a mean jealous streak.

In 1795, Winters is accused of being the source of Angelique's witchcraft and is sentenced to hang. However, before she can make it to the gallows, she returns to the present — in the case of the series, 1968 — with full knowledge of Barnabas' tortured secret.

There's so much plot centered in this one story thread from the series — the backstory of Barnabas' fiancée Josette, who flings herself off a cliff to avoid becoming a vampire, among them — that we're not sure how Burton is going to cram it all into a two-hour movie. But we sure can't wait to see him try.

There are many other incidents of time travel in the series — Barnabas at one point travels to 1897 to try to rectify a haunting situation in the present — but the fact that Heathcote is credited on the film's IMDb page as both Victoria Winters and Josette duPres only further supports our idea that Burton is filming the story of Barnabas' discovery in the present by Willie Loomis (Oscar nominee Jackie Earle Haley) and his transformation into a vampire in the past.

Also, Helena Bonham Carter's presence as Dr. Julia Hoffman hints that we also may get a taste of a separate story in which Hoffman tries to cure Barnabas' vampirism so he can be with Victoria Winters, who he believes to be Josette's reincarnation.

It all kind of fits together a little too perfectly, wouldn't you agree? Does it all work out? We're not telling ... yet!

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1674178/johnny-depp-dark-shadows-tim-burton.jhtml
 
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Nov 18 2011 2:42 PM EST 1,141
Johnny Depp 'Feels His Costumes' In 'Dark Shadows'
Costume designer Colleen Atwood takes MTV News inside the extravagant looks of Depp's Barnabas Collins.
By John Mitchell, with reporting by Amy Wilkinson

Costume designer Colleen Atwood has dressed Johnny Depp for eight films, five of which were directed by Tim Burton. The pair's collaboration dates all the way back to 1990's "Edward Scissorhands" and continues to this day with Burton's latest flick, "Dark Shadows."

In the film, Depp plays centuries-old vampire Barnabas Collins, who is awakened in the late '60s and tries to forge a relationship with his modern descendents. Atwood recently revealed to MTV News that while Depp is most certainly involved in the costuming process, he's come to trust her enough to let her work her magic.

"Johnny's very open about what things are in the process, but he really lets people present things to him. He never really pushes at all," Atwood said. "Sometimes he doesn't even look in the mirror in his fittings. It's so funny. It's pretty amazing. People would be surprised, because I think they have this image of Johnny, because he's so stylish always, but he really feels his costumes more than looks at them, and the movement and the feeling in them is really important."

For "Shadows," Depp's vampire is of the traditional sort. Unlike the sparkling vamps of "Twilight," Barnabas cannot be exposed to sunlight. His courtship of Victoria Winters (Bella Heathcote) and his desire to keep his dark secret from her, however, forces him into the daylight. This presented a costuming issue for Atwood, who had to find interesting ways to conceal Depp's skin from sun.

"He plays a vampire who wouldn't normally go out in the daytime, but we wanted him to be able to have outings, so I did two or three different hat shapes and we tried them once he got his hair and makeup on," Atwood tells MTV News. "I also found these amazing hundred-year-old sunglasses, but they were too small ... so I took them and had them copied. And the color of the sunglasses and the color of the hat and his costume coat, which was a really dark green, is one of our favorite combos we've come up with in our work together."

The three-time Oscar winner (for "Alice in Wonderland," "Memoirs of a Geisha" and "Chicago") admits that Depp's professionalism has been key to their successful collaboration, saying, "There's a lot of trust there for both of us, so it's a nice process, because ... if he has an idea, it comes from someplace; it's not just some wanky fashion idea."

If the early photos are any indication, Atwood has outdone herself yet again. Depp's Barnabas looks simultaneously terrifying and alluring, and co-stars Michelle Pfeiffer, Chloe Moretz and Helena Bonham Carter's dark, high-style extravagance looks like a perfect fit for the Gothic world Burton has created.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1674659/johnny-depp-dark-shadows-costumes.jhtml
 
Alright, we all need to make a pact. No one bumps this thread until we've got a trailer to show for it. Starting........

NOW!!!
 
Helena Bonham Carter Deems Dark Shadows Impossible to Sell

Helena Bonham Carter took some time out to speak about Tim Burton's upcoming remake of the classic television soap Dark Shadows, and her comments definitely fall on the interesting side of the fence.


"This is a thing he raced home to see when he was about age 10, so it's returning to his childhood roots of what he loved watching," Bonham Carter said of the original "Dark Shadows." "It's actually a really bad, hilariously bad soap opera, and because it's so bad, he felt he had to make a hugely expensive movie."


Bonham Carter continues, "It's going to be unlike [anything], I think. It's dangerous to say that. But it's very original and it's kind of uncategorizable. It's going to be impossible to sell, frankly, because it's just so ... it's a soap opera, but it's very, very subtle. I don't know. We'll see. It's a ghost story, but then it's an unhappy vampire story, it's a mixture of so many different things and a real ensemble piece. Hopefully it will be funny. I don't know."


We're not sure if the above is good or bad. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.



The ensemble cast includes Johnny Depp, Michelle Pfeiffer, Helena Bonham Carter, Eva Green, Jackie Earle Haley, Jonny Lee Miller, Bella Heathcote, Chloe Moretz, Thomas McDonell, and newcomer Gulliver McGrath. Look for it in theatres in glorious 2D on May 11, 2012.

http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/49136/helena-bonham-carter-deems-dark-shadows-impossible-sell

Hmm... interesting!
 
Heh, maybe that's why a teaser trailer's taking so long.
 
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