Iron Man Tons of positive early screening Iron Man reviews

[The Guard]

Well I know it is still OT, but I have to say the reason a large number of people (including myself), albeit the minority, thought TF was mediocre is because it is just a studio fluff piece. There is no depth and it is nothing but a commercial proposition for studio-tie-ins to product placement and merchandise.

Congratulations. You've just described TRANSFORMERS as a concept. It was never that deep.

The characters are vapid and cliche archetypes that steal from Spider-Man to E.T. but lack the depth of all those films and boils down to a few charming and good actors (minus Fox who is just eye candy) providing humor to make up for a lack of plot in a commercial for--more commercials.

I'm curious, what kind of depth did you expect this movie to have?

Still, didn´t need to be nearly as condescending and silly as it was to appeal to that audience, as has proven by a number of other movies.

How was TRANSFORMERS specifically condescending to the audience? And realize...there is a difference between not being brilliantly written, and being condescending. TRANSFORMERS, as I recall, didn't feel the need to beat the audience over the head with what was happening, like, oh, say...BATMAN BEGINS?

Didn't need, didn't need, didn't need...Welcome to Hollywood in 2007/2008. This is our culture. There are people who RESPOND to those kinds of stimuli, as evidenced by the braindead songs that are most popular, and the braindead shows that are popular. It's the same reason Batman has to crack jokes in BATMAN BEGINS, or we get nonsense like "I have got to get me one of those" or "DAYUMMM! NICE CAR!". You think TRANSFORMERS is the only place it shows up? Think again. There are also people who act like the characters found in TRANSFORMERS do, and yes, some of it was absurd, but what world do you all live in that you've never met someone like those characters at some point?

The Pixar movies, for instance, manage to make the comedic moments be mostly an actual integral part of the story, and still when they get serious, they get serious for real, and you can clearly see how they research in-depth every universe they deal with, whether it´s fishes, toys, etc., that make their jokes feel specific and unique to it, while TF is loaded with generic humor that could have been stolen from any lame blockbuster, teen comedy and stuff, such as "I don´t mind girls working my engine", or "it´s you and me", "no, only me".

Gosh. I wish I cared enough to argue PIXAR VS TRANSFORMERS. I don't. The people at PIXAR tend to do something very right, seemingly in a vaccum. Good for them.

Yeah, after Jazz had maybe two lines and a minute of screentime in
the movie

Look! Hyperbole!

and then Optimus and Ratchet push some melodrama to pretend there was anything compelling about his character in the movie and the way he was quickly dispatched without having had anything to do that would actually make an audience care.

I don't know what to tell you. This "sudden melodrama" is how movies work, and it's not new. I don't tend to give a fiddle when characters die. TRANSFORMERS never advertised it as a truly major event, you just seem to want it to have been. This isn't the Death of Optimus Prime we're talking about here.

What do you want, something that makes you tear up because a robot died? A robot funeral?

You want Jazz to say something witty like "Prime...don't be afraid" before he dies?

When you keep throwing humor all the time, you kill the danger, it´s hard to believe people are truly scared or in danger when they keep joking all the time and the scenes that are supposed to have danger are still played for laughs all the time.

Good god...go study humanity. People use humor when they are afraid. Constantly. And humor has almost always been used to lighten an otherwise serious scene in action/adventure movies. You ***** about its use here, and you may as well go down the list of adventure films, because trust me, you'll find it there, too. It's a film convention, not something unique to Michael Bay and TRANSFORMERS.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

Congratulations. You've just described TRANSFORMERS as a concept. It was never that deep.



I'm curious, what kind of depth did you expect this movie to have?



How was TRANSFORMERS specifically condescending to the audience? And realize...there is a difference between not being brilliantly written, and being condescending. TRANSFORMERS, as I recall, didn't feel the need to beat the audience over the head with what was happening, like, oh, say...BATMAN BEGINS?

Didn't need, didn't need, didn't need...Welcome to Hollywood in 2007/2008. This is our culture. There are people who RESPOND to those kinds of stimuli, as evidenced by the braindead songs that are most popular, and the braindead shows that are popular. It's the same reason Batman has to crack jokes in BATMAN BEGINS, or we get nonsense like "I have got to get me one of those" or "DAYUMMM! NICE CAR!". You think TRANSFORMERS is the only place it shows up? Think again. There are also people who act like the characters found in TRANSFORMERS do, and yes, some of it was absurd, but what world do you all live in that you've never met someone like those characters at some point?



Gosh. I wish I cared enough to argue PIXAR VS TRANSFORMERS. I don't. The people at PIXAR tend to do something very right, seemingly in a vaccum. Good for them.



Look! Hyperbole!



I don't know what to tell you. This "sudden melodrama" is how movies work, and it's not new. I don't tend to give a fiddle when characters die. TRANSFORMERS never advertised it as a truly major event, you just seem to want it to have been. This isn't the Death of Optimus Prime we're talking about here.

What do you want, something that makes you tear up because a robot died? A robot funeral?

You want Jazz to say something witty like "Prime...don't be afraid" before he dies?



Good god...go study humanity. People use humor when they are afraid. Constantly. And humor has almost always been used to lighten an otherwise serious scene in action/adventure movies. You ***** about its use here, and you may as well go down the list of adventure films, because trust me, you'll find it there, too. It's a film convention, not something unique to Michael Bay and TRANSFORMERS.

Let us also not forget that Transformers should be forgiven for it's lack of character development because it was an introduction movie as well,there is only so much time Transformers got to be developed as characters and the CGI for each one of them is ALOT of money. With the main story and other stories going on in the movie,there ALSO just couldn't be alot of time to properly get the personalities of the Transformers fleshed out. For the Transformers fans that still don't get it,more chances for the Transformers as characters to be fleshed out=MORE MONEY. My closing statement is that Roberto at DonMurphy.net personally said that the budget for Transformers 2 will be higher but not as high as other movies that were big sequels. Oh and I promise,this is the final time I will be talking about Transformers in this Iron Man thread.

 

[Raiden]

Then why was no one talking about Iron Man? This forum has been all but dead the past few days, and this thread is no exception. And it isn't because there's a Transformers discussion going on here, it's because there's next to nothing to talk about.

Well, there isn't that many Iron Man reviews to discuss right now, and I don't think this forum is dead since there are still several active threads. Anyway, Iron Man is almost upon us and that should be a cause for excitement and anticipation.

 

[YJ1]

Oh and I promise,this is the final time I will be talking about Transformers in this Iron Man thread.

officially...

Transformers- It’s the movie equivalent of cotton candy. It’s large, bright and appears full until you go to take a bite and it disappears. It’s all fluff delivering a soulless, babbling film. Most of the cool special effects are negated by presenting them with the jarring, shaky camera style.

Back to Iron Man. Fantasy Moguls:

"Those who have seen Iron Man (Paramount) have been blown away by Jon Favreau’s Marvel adaptation. One exec described it as being not so much a superhero movie, but not exactly science fiction either. It is more "science fact," apparently. Paramount has every reason to be thrilled with early tracking for Iron Man, which hits one week from Friday on May 2."

 

[explode7]

^ That sounds freaking amazing. Can anyone smell huge Box Office? I can.

 

[Raiden]

officially...


Back to Iron Man. Fantasy Moguls:

"Those who have seen Iron Man (Paramount) have been blown away by Jon Favreau’s Marvel adaptation. One exec described it as being not so much a superhero movie, but not exactly science fiction either. It is more "science fact," apparently. Paramount has every reason to be thrilled with early tracking for Iron Man, which hits one week from Friday on May 2."

This sounds very exciting.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Science fact??? I am sure they'll get technical with the physics at some point just to make it legit... I doubt it will make sense though if you gave it thought though. Hopefully they do as good a job as Spielberg did with JP.

 

[Mikelus]

It is wrong to discuss TF on an Iron Man thread. You have the Transformers forums for that, to repeat the same arguments for a thousand time.

Back on topic, I'm glad the reviews are quite positive, I knew the movie was going to be good the way Downey Jr. and Favreau were approaching it, with passion, heart and fun.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Then why was no one talking about Iron Man? This forum has been all but dead the past few days, and this thread is no exception. And it isn't because there's a Transformers discussion going on here, it's because there's next to nothing to talk about.

So because no one is talking about IM (which is an exaggeration) than its ok to start talking about a different movie?

For everyone that feels the need to discuss Transformers:

http://forums.superherohype.com/forumdisplay.php?f=299


I don't want to go through pages of Transfomers talk just to find a review on Iron Man. And if there's nothing new IM related, then so be it. That's not an excuse to start debating the quality of Transformers.

 

[explode7]

Yeah but still Transformers was pretty cool. Didn't Marvel created Transformers btw?

 

[BlackLantern]

I can't wait to read the inevitable whining that will occur over at AICN upon release. If someone enjoys something they get called a PLANT, I guess its cool to be miserable over there

 

[explode7]

What's a plant?

 

[BlackLantern]

What's a plant?

a term for someone a studio or marketing firm would hire to go online, pose as a casual movie goer and post positive blogs/posts about a specific film or show.....most internet fans like to throw the term around recklessly...

 

[Tempest19]

this:

Jesus, what happened to the school system???

 

[AragornKing1]

Let us also not forget that Transformers should be forgiven for it's lack of character development because it was an introduction movie as well,there is only so much time Transformers got to be developed as characters and the CGI for each one of them is ALOT of money. With the main story and other stories going on in the movie,there ALSO just couldn't be alot of time to properly get the personalities of the Transformers fleshed out. For the Transformers fans that still don't get it,more chances for the Transformers as characters to be fleshed out=MORE MONEY. My closing statement is that Roberto at DonMurphy.net personally said that the budget for Transformers 2 will be higher but not as high as other movies that were big sequels. Oh and I promise,this is the final time I will be talking about Transformers in this Iron Man thread.

There was very little character development for Sam and Mikaela, but really, it didn't need character development...it's Transformers. And besides, 300 is considered great, and it is, but it has no character development at all and no one complained about that except some critics.

 

[Spider-Vader]

So.... how about the Iron Man thing coming out soon?

 

[BlackLantern]

I am actually thinking about foregoing opening weekend and going on a tuesday or wednesday night final showing, that way most the theater is empty

 

[Cmill216]

So.... how about the Iron Man thing coming out soon?

Iron what???

 

[Asgard]

I am actually thinking about foregoing opening weekend and going on a tuesday or wednesday night final showing, that way most the theater is empty

I do that on second viewing. I always make sure to watch with the largest crowd possible the first time so that I can really feel the effect of the money shots.

 

[BlackLantern]

I do that on second viewing. I always make sure to watch with the largest crowd possible the first time so that I can really feel the effect of the money shots.

I hate being in a crowded theater, people smell and make too much noise...as for the money shots, I don't need anyone around to enjoy those....

 

[bunk]

I hate being in a crowded theater, people smell and make too much noise...as for the money shots, I don't need anyone around to enjoy those....

God... my mind just went to a weird place when I read this. And I swear I've never even been to one of those theaters.

 

[Cmill216]

Lawl.

 

[Blader5489]

I do that on second viewing. I always make sure to watch with the largest crowd possible the first time so that I can really feel the effect of the money shots.

Wtf?!

 

[BlackLantern]

Let me clarify...i don't need a crowded theater to enjoy a movie....I don't have that kind of psychological co-dependency

 

[Figs]

Let me clarify...i don't need a crowded theater to enjoy a movie....I don't have that kind of psychological co-dependency

Pfft. Has nothing to do with that. Not in regards to you but to others that shot is aimed at. People just like to be in an active theatre for an event/summer film like this because it's fun.

It has nothing to do with someone not being able to enjoy a film in an almost empty theatre.