Tony planned to murder Hulk

[Badfish40oz]

Ever since I read the New Avengers: Illuminati issue and the first issue of Planet Hulk, something bothered me. Why would Tony and Reed leave a video message for Hulk, explaining that they were sending him away? Surely the best thing to do would be not explain anything and Hulk might assume the ship was just screwing up or something . .

You can say it was a way to tell the readers what was going on, but it was already explained to us way before we see the video message. Something is up there.

Fast-forward to the latest issue of Hulk.

::SPOILERS::

The ship blows up, most likely due to the damage Hulk caused it and the wormhole it went through. Wouldn't two of the smartest people in the Marvel Universe foresee something like this happening? Arguably the STRONGEST character in the 616, a monster driven by RAGE, left alone on a spaceship after viewing a video-message from his "friends" claiming they're EXILING him from his home?? Anyone with half a brain could figure out that something bad would happen. And when does a ship just blow up like that anyway?

I can only conclude one thing. Tony (and/or Reed) sent that video-message to purposely enrage the Hulk, causing him to destroy the ship and trigger the explosion. It was a hit attempt.

 

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

By jove I think hes got it!

 

[Darthphere]

Ever since I read the New Avengers: Illuminati issue and the first issue of Planet Hulk, something bothered me. Why would Tony and Reed leave a video message for Hulk, explaining that they were sending him away? Surely the best thing to do would be not explain anything and Hulk might assume the ship was just screwing up or something . .

You can say it was a way to tell the readers what was going on, but it was already explained to us way before we see the video message. Something is up there.

Fast-forward to the latest issue of Hulk.

::SPOILERS::

The ship blows up, most likely due to the damage Hulk caused it and the wormhole it went through. Wouldn't two of the smartest people in the Marvel Universe foresee something like this happening? Arguably the STRONGEST character in the 616, a monster driven by RAGE, left alone on a spaceship after viewing a video-message from his "friends" claiming they're EXILING him from his home?? Anyone with half a brain could figure out that something bad would happen. And when does a ship just blow up like that anyway?

I can only conclude one thing. Tony (and/or Reed) sent that video-message to purposely enrage the Hulk, causing him to destroy the ship and trigger the explosion. It was a hit attempt.

I don't buy it. Surely they would realize that the explosion would have a low probability of actually killing the Hulk.

 

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

Maybe they hoped to trap him floating in space so he would just starve to death?

 

[Darthphere]

That would work, if Hulk couldn't breathe in space and actually had to eat anything.

 

[Spoon Tang]

I think he's always been shown wearing a breathing apparatus in space, so I assume he needs to breathe.

 

[jaydawg]

Couldn't Hulk evolve to not need to breathe? He has shown the ability to quickly adapt to areas where no human could survive.

 

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

Theres still the whole thing of food, sooner or later he's going to need to eat and if not him then Banner.

 

[YJ1]

Theres still the whole thing of food, sooner or later he's going to need to eat and if not him then Banner.

The Hulk: The End issue showed that Hulk is very hard to kill.

The Incredible Hulk: The End one-shot, set almost two hundred years into an alternative future, portrays Bruce Banner as the last human and the sole survivor of a nuclear war. In the aftermath of the war, Hulk retreats to a cave - emerging to find that the only other life left on earth is a swarm of mutated (and extremely dangerous) cockroaches. Banner, now extremely elderly, has gained a little of the Hulk's regenerative ability, but has lost his will to live. In the moments before heart failure Banner halucinates the sight of all his loved ones, the ones that Hulk has struggled constantly to be left alone by while defending. Banner wants to embrace final demise. Hulk, on the other hand, is still not ready to die, even transforming himself as Banner finally dies, leaving him sitting on a deserted mountain as he reflects on how, at last, he is alone.

 

[Willowhugger]

Uhhhm. Errr....

Misunderstood monster or not....

Why is killing the Hulk a bad thing?

 

[littleredhat]

Uhhhm. Errr....

Misunderstood monster or not....

Why is killing the Hulk a bad thing?

Because he has a movie coming out.

 

[Badfish40oz]

Why is killing the Hulk a bad thing?

A - There's an innocent man underneath
B - Anytime the Hulk has caused destruction/injury/death has been as a result of people trying to kill/capture/hurt him. He in no way intentionally hurts anyone. Just leave him alone to save the world when he wants to and you'd be fine.

 

[Tropico]

They already had satellites orbiting the planet where they planned to send the Hulk to, so it's highly unlikely they sent him off to die. There are always unpredictable variables that can tamper with the results even these "big brains" hope for. If it was hard for them to figure out where to send him and get him there safely it would have been even harder to make sure he was marooned in space with no contact with any planet or celestial bodies.

 

[ScarletSpider]

Theres still the whole thing of food, sooner or later he's going to need to eat and if not him then Banner.

Well if he really needed to, he could eat his own flesh. It'd grow back pretty much by the time he swallows the chunk he bit off.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Isn't it possible that Reed and Tony only meant to enrage him so he'd blow the ship up and thus remove any shot of ever using it to get back? Remember, he's got a world-renowned scientist inside of him. I'm sure that if the ship simply landed on the planet and opened the door, the Hulk would've just been confused rather than angry, changed back to Banner, Banner would put the pieces together and, possibly after becoming angry and tearing up the planet a little, go back to the ship and fly it back home.

 

[PhotoJones]

Isn't it possible that Reed and Tony only meant to enrage him so he'd blow the ship up and thus remove any shot of ever using it to get back? Remember, he's got a world-renowned scientist inside of him. I'm sure that if the ship simply landed on the planet and opened the door, the Hulk would've just been confused rather than angry, changed back to Banner, Banner would put the pieces together and, possibly after becoming angry and tearing up the planet a little, go back to the ship and fly it back home.

banner's not really that kind of scientist, though.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Dude, it's comics. Every scientist is whatever kind of scientist the situation calls for.

 

[PhotoJones]

Dude, it's comics. Every scientist is whatever kind of scientist the situation calls for.

i'm usually the type of reader to suspend belief, but in this case, i'd have a hard time buying it.

 

[Canadian Rider]

Blowing up his means of transportation or having him destroy it himself ... either way he doesn't come back and wasn't that the point?

 

[Purple Man]

It's totally possible that they included the message to make him mad.

But I personally believe that they included the message in the hopes of reaching Bruce Banner and having him understand why they were doing what they were doing, go along with the exile and stay the hell away from Earth.

I have one major problem with this whole Hulk exile thing though. In the presence of the Sentry, Hulk is a big child and would have willingly followed him into space.

Though I guess my problem isn't that major since the high and mighty Illuminati wouldn't want to include someone as unstable as the Sentry in their plans, fearing that he might not want to go along with it and team up with the Hulk to take them down. The two strongest beings on Earth might cause a bit of a problem to a team even as powerful as the Illuminati.

Oh well, either way, we're getting World War Hulk out of the deal so I won't complain any further.

 

[Still A ThorFan]

He should have Thor kill the Hulk.

Anyway, if any heroes deserve to die they are Spiderman and Wolverine. You can't go anywhere with out seeing those two. Drives me crazy.

 

[PhotoJones]

He should have Thor kill the Hulk.

Anyway, if any heroes deserve to die they are Spiderman and Wolverine. You can't go anywhere with out seeing those two. Drives me crazy.

yes. marvel should kill off their cash cows because it makes YOU crazy.

 

[Badfish40oz]

This isn't some tiny explosion that destroys a ship and leaves Hulk marooned. It's WIPING OUT almost an ENTIRE PLANET. It's like a huge nuke. I mean, Sakkar is all but GONE. Whether the ship exploded in space or on this "peaceful" planet they wanted to send him to is irrelevant. I still think it was a hit attempt.

I think Tony/Reed knew full well that the ship would explode like that given the right amount of damage. And what better way to damage the ship than enrage the Hulk who's the only one onboard.

What if the ship made it to that peaceful planet? The same thing would happen. IN FACT, they probably only picked a uninhabited planet to avoid any other casualties.

Do the math: They send Hulk to a planet with no intelligent life. Leave a message that is SURE to infuriate him. They must know an angry Hulk is 100% likely to go on a rampage in that ship, which just happens to trigger a world-ending explosion. No innocents die because the planet is uninhabited.

It was a hit.

The satellites orbiting the peaceful planet could just be there to make sure the job is finished.

 

[ang_hulk]

I pass it off as just another bit of bad writing.If he ment to murder him i think prof x woulda caught it.

 

[Tropico]

This isn't some tiny explosion that destroys a ship and leaves Hulk marooned. It's WIPING OUT almost an ENTIRE PLANET. It's like a huge nuke. I mean, Sakkar is all but GONE. Whether the ship exploded in space or on this "peaceful" planet they wanted to send him to is irrelevant. I still think it was a hit attempt.

I think Tony/Reed knew full well that the ship would explode like that given the right amount of damage. And what better way to damage the ship than enrage the Hulk who's the only one onboard.

What if the ship made it to that peaceful planet? The same thing would happen. IN FACT, they probably only picked a uninhabited planet to avoid any other casualties.

Do the math: They send Hulk to a planet with no intelligent life. Leave a message that is SURE to infuriate him. They must know an angry Hulk is 100% likely to go on a rampage in that ship, which just happens to trigger a world-ending explosion. No innocents die because the planet is uninhabited.

It was a hit.

The satellites orbiting the peaceful planet could just be there to make sure the job is finished.

They could have taken into account that the Hulk would get angry but count on him not destroying the ship. They could have taken into account that the ship might crash land on the planet and prepared the ship for that eventuality so that it wouldn't blow up.

They didn't take into account that the ship would go through a wormhole that would screw it up as badly as it did. A wormhole that left Silver Surfer practically powerless after going through it. They didn't take into account someone else salvaging and doing God knows what to it. They didn't take into account that the writers need a convenient excuse to: 1)F**k up Sakaar, 2)Give Hulk more of a reason to go back to Earth and get revenge. I think my math makes WAY more sense than yours.

I pass it off as just another bit of bad writing.If he ment to murder him i think prof x woulda caught it.

This is the part where I'm supposed to be a jackass and tell you you don't read Hulk and shut the hell up because you didn't remember that Professor X wasn't involved in that meeting to exile the Hulk, right?