Comics Top 10 Reasons I Stopped Reading Spiderman

[hex]

IN no discerning order...

1) Aunt May turned out to be an actress that Osborn hired. (ASM #400)
2) Norman Osborn is alive WTF!?
3) Doc Ock brought back to life by "life force transferring machine" again. WTF?!
4) Ignoring the Peter Parker skeleton confirmed by DNA testing. The REAL Peter is actually dead remember?
5) Killing off Ben Reilly (why make us care about him?)
6) GWEN STACY HAD SEX WITH NORMAN OSBORN?!!? WHADA***?!
7) When Peter said, "I'll KILL YOU!" to MJ when he found out he was the clone, and his "latent programing" kicked in from the Jackyl
8) Peter becoming a highschool science teacher, for the sole purpose of a plot device involving the ability to tell "urban youth stories" that can appeal to todays young readers. WTF!? JMS? you're better than that.
9) Spiderman evolved? uh.. in what way? horribly told story.. the other
10) So.. there are other "spider" men throughout time, like there are "animal men"?!

 

[Doc_OCK_4MUGEN]

1) I think they destroyed a great comic book by retcnning that...
2) It's Norman, the green scapegoat... when something goes wrong in the spidey verse... blame Norman...
3)WTF?! Indeed but, I'd rather have doc ock back than Morlun or Shathra returning *shudders*
4) It was Norman who tampered with the Evidence... Although I'm a fan of Reilly I didn't liked the fact that pete was dead...
5) He could have moved to the west coast... but nooo!!! they had to kill him... those bastards! Then they make Peter a moron...
6)It was NORMAN... Mr. Scapegoat strikes again, and JMS's crappy ideas "raped" by Joe Q... It was supposed to be Peter...
7)Trick to make you like ben more...
8)At least they didn't make him a male escort...
9)Spider-man is now a pokémon...
10) This you can blame on JMS...

Mine are:
1)shoving the spider-totem thing in my face, and instead of making it a Possibility for an origin it was made into the Actual Origin
2) The over-evolution of Spidey... He's now a frickin' pokémon... He's "Evolved" TWICE!!! and he gets dumber after each evolution...
3)The Norman /Gwen Squeaky Mattress session...
4)god awful red and gold abomination... with tentacles...
5)The big bad Wolverine rip-off stingerz!!!
6)Peter's dumbassness (Unmasking is here)
7)JMS
8)Joe Q
9)Every story MUST be told in seix-twelve frickin issues!!! Can't they make stories that resolve the main plot in one issue and leaving small loose ends to deal with in the next issue...
10)Complete diesregard for continuity, and bending/destroying the characters so they fit to the story...

 

[boywonder13]

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9)Every story MUST be told in seix-twelve frickin issues!!! Can't they make stories that resolve the main plot in one issue and leaving small loose ends to deal with in the next issue...
10)Complete diesregard for continuity, and bending/destroying the characters so they fit to the story...

I loved when continuity was tight and when stories would be wrapped up like in the Lee-Ditko age where stories where no more than 3 or 4 issues long but had continuing subplots.

Oh...woe is me....where is the True Spider-Man.......

 

[Harlekin]

Hey, don't rag on the choice to make him a teacher. I actually thought that was a brilliant move. It was effed up, but the original move was a nice little innovation.

 

[The Joker]

3) Doc Ock brought back to life by "life force transferring machine" again. WTF?!

I'll just address this point.

It was no machine that brought Ock back to life. It was some mystic ritual that takes the life energy out of someone and transfers it into the body of another. In Ock's case, Stunner sacrificed herself for Octavius.

No machine involved. And what do you mean by "again"?? Ock only ever died the once.

Anyway, I don't care if it was Britney Spears who brought Ock back. Fact is he's back. I'd rather have him back than not have him around at all.

 

[Doc Destruction]

I'd rather have writers try writing good stories rather than kill mainstay characters for shock value, myself.

 

[storyteller]

Dude why did you waste so many reason when 1 could have sufficed.


THE CLONE SAGA SUCKED.

THE OTHER SUCKED.


I mean i could have digged spideys other powers had it stayed science based evolution and of course, he didnt turn iron mans ***** 2 issues later.

 

[Eye Doc]

Dude why did you waste so many reason when 1 could have sufficed.


THE CLONE SAGA SUCKED.

THE OTHER SUCKED.


I mean i could have digged spideys other powers had it stayed science based evolution and of course, he didnt turn iron mans ***** 2 issues later.

I have to hand it to you. You were able to sum up my feelings on the above stories in two sentences.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

harry osborn senior is alive? huh? didja mean norman?

number 8 and 10 i thought was fine. norman being alive again is cool. all the rest shouldnt have been done, though the skeleton WAS explained away..

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Clone Saga rules.

The Other drools.

 

[Citizen_Kaine]

I'd rather have the worst of the Clone Saga in ASM than the best of the Other, anyday of the week. Pretty much goes for every other "shocking" event thats happened to Peter in the last few years.

Here's pretty much my list, I Byrne steal my roomies Spidey now

10. The Reboot/Chapter 1
"Yeah! Let's completley renumber the long running ASM line and change his origin so that our readers no longer wonder why, so many accidents happen in the Marvel uni, and why Norman Osborn's and The Sandman's hair looks so similar!"

9. Baby May
Marvel, has been pushing the Spider-baby on us for about two years and we're all pretty pumped. However due to some Clone Saga retooling.. Peter, comes back, and having a kid would drastically age this hip young swinger. So the Baby is removed from the picture. However nobody at Marvel, having the stones to actually kill it, make it seem as though Norman Osborn had taken it. Something Marvel believed would be the end of all the baby talk. However, every single Spider-fan out there saw through it, and Marvel had to quickly have Kaine steal her, and than disapeer for the next 8 years. Is Baby May dead? Nope, but you can bet your ass you ain't seeing her in 616 in this lifetime

8. You Will Believe a Spider Can Fly!
Ok so Spidey gets a new costume from Iron Man, because uh, all his other costumes were damaged. Somehow Peter accepts it even though it has Tony Starks color scheme. As well the costume has these appendages on the back to deal with Doc Ock and stuff, and to give it a more eight legged Spider feel ,however the damn suit has only three legs . It's also bullet proof, and uh, can glide... for several miles... uh yeah....

7.Osborn did it!
Got a problem with Spider-Man that needs to be solved? Osborn did it! That's all you need to say to wrap up a story real quick and be able to get to DC much quicker by doing so. Gwen Stacy, getting it the way of progress? Osborn did it!. Is your Clone Saga running too long? Osborn did it! Peter Parker needs the return of his ailing Aunt? Osborn did it! Need a father to Gwen Stacy's children, to wrap up a ******ed plot? Osborn did her!

6.Gwen gets around
I can only imagine how the abomination known as Sins Past came to light. How in christs name did it get by the editors? Let alone the few people at Marvel with basic common sense? Let me explain what went wrong and you tell me if this belongs in a comic book, or some day time soap opra.

Gwen has sex with Norman Osborn, because of his apparant Magnatism. She carries his kids, and goes to France to deliver them.(She looked pretty skinny for a woman carrying 2 children!) After which MJ finds out, and doesn't tell Peter for about 10 years. Osborn kills Gwen, but not to hurt Peter, like the most important Spider-Man comic book ever said
But to actually get revenge on her for not letting her have his kids. *Sigh*
Peter goes nuts and destroys the living room, and than turns into a good guy again, and decides to help the kids, who are growing so old because of the Goblin serum in their blood(Thanks deus ex machina! ) One of the kids finds the Goblin hideout and discovers Peter was telling the truth about Osborn, but ignores that fact and puts on his new Grey Goblin costume!! (Marvel once again ignores some more continuity, and has Osborn injecting himself with the serum) He goes to attack Peter, but his sister has turned good and shoots him out of the sky. She leaves, and he wakes up with amnesia. Peter has some really creepy ending where he's ******* off to Gwen, while talking to MJ. Did I mention they made a sequel to this arc? I can't tell you about it because, I stopped reading after one issue. Even Citizen Kaine, aint that strong.

 

[shinlyle]

My top ten...in no particular order:

10- Relaunches. They continually relaunch the secondary books instead of just (gasp) changing the creative teams! There should stil be a Spectacular and a Web of...

9- No supporting cast. We have no one left. Marvel has either killed them, forgotten about them, or they feel that Aunt May, Mary Jane, and the Avengers are all that Peter needs.

8- Spidey is a tool. He has become a brainless baboon who follows Tony Stark to the bitter end. It's ******ed. Peter used to be his own man...now look at him.

7- Spider-Man...an Avenger?! This doesn't anger me as an idea, but Spidey has proven to be the most useless Avenger ever. The GLA are more useful than Spidey, at this point. It's pathetic. Not to mention he's on the "New" Avengers....not the REAL Avengers...

6- Spider-Man: Sins Past. This was the first shot Marvel really fired at fandom. It totally betrayed the characters it portrayed, and it was so ou of continuity that it wasn't even funny. On top of that, even if it HAD been good, the ending was so anti-climactic, that it was rendered useless.

5- The Other. This is the worst Spider-Man story ever. Nothing about it is good, and it lead to the next few problems I have with the Spidey-books lately. Also, it changed Spider-Man's ORIGIN. Argue it all you want, it plainly states that he is now powered by a magical pagan Spider-God.

4- Spider-Man killing Morlun. Morlun?! Of all the characters Spidey shoud have killed, Norman, Carnage, or even Morbius (out of pity), he kills Mr.Nobody, Morlun?! Not only does he do it, but it was uncalled for. If he can stab a guy through the arms and hold him down, then he can hold him until the Avengers arrive, as opposed to eating his freakin' head.

3- That damned ugly costume. How anyone can argue that this costume isn't hideous is beyond me. It was a joke when it was introduced, and it's a joke now. The fact that a good artist makes it look better is a testament to the artist, not the suit.

2- The unmasking. It is cool in the premise os Civil War. It works FOR THAT STORY. However, all this does in the Spider-man books is give the writers a little more time before their lack of creativity becomes evident again. Find me the last issue of ASM that didn't revolve around some sort of "Major change". That's what I thought.

1- The books are no longer fun for me. I used to enjoy reading a Spider-man book. Whenever the books came out, I couldn't wait to read them! They were on the top of the stack!! Every issue was chock full of gorgeous artwork and light-hearted, fun storytelling.

Now....now I open an issue, cringing at whatever "Shocking Change" will result from this issue, further alienating me from the hero I grew up with. Every issue, or arc, something catastrophic happens. Spidey dies, Spidey comes back, Spidey gets a new costume, Spidey kills a guy, Spidey unmasks in front of the whole world, Gwen and Norman's illegitimate children seek revenge upon Spidey....

It's ridiculous, and it isn't much fun to open up an issue thinking about how the current powers-that-be are going to totally screw up the hero each and every issue.

There's my opinion, and it's worth what you paid for it, I suppose.

 

[Citizen_Kaine]

5. Spider-Man Avenger Oy Veh!
Ok, so Spidey finally makes the big leagues, joining the prestigous ranks of the Avengers alongside, hero's like, Captain America, Iron Man, uh Spider-Woman... Luke Cage, er, Wolverine, is this really the lineup? Basically Spidey's role on the team is to make stupid jokes and be told to shut the **** up. Ignoring the fact that he could mop the floor with half the team, hes just the guy the team gives dirty looks too, by talking at inapropriate situations. Not to mention Bendis, has this obsession with writing Spidey as some sort of Jewish stereotype (They don't walk around talking about bagels you asswipe!) Not to mention his other obsession, with seeing Peter with his mask off. Mmmm second issue of the series, Peter gets his mask taken off and his arm broken by Jigsaw of all people. I mean how many times has the Punisher killed that guy!? And the goddamn Amazing Spider-Man can't even handle him!? Sheesh, it gets worse. Spidey gets beaten up and stripped naked, by some Savage land goons. Than he gets flung about fifteen miles by the Wrecker, than he gets his ass kicked by a bunch of Ninja's and the Void,. Finally capping off his uselessness on the team, Peter gets telepathically raped, while stupidly talking to his "boss", about the House of M. Once again he gets unmasked, humilitated and pumped for information, and has to rely on Power Man to save his ass. It was honestly like having your parents pick you up from the principals office.

4. Ultimate Spider-Man Carnage to Hobgoblin: Nineteen issues of ****
You like Carnage?, No neither do I. Thats how Ultimate 60 started and I knew I would be bored for the next five issues, but little did I know how bad it would become. From Gwen dying quickly and inexplicitly, to Peter fighting Carnage in his underwear. Carnage is killed, Peter acts all sulky, Black Reilly runs off. The next issue had Spider-Man in detention the entire time, with some intresting character development, that was never again to be picked up on. Than we had the freaky friday arc, than a nothing Human torch story, and finally another two part dream sequence. Can you believe all three of these craptastic two parters are actually,sold in a trade?. Ok but whatever, Ultimate Hobgoblin is here to save the day! Oh wait its Harry Osborn, and he looks exactly like Green Gob, only orange. And MJ is being written extremely stupid so we all hate her and want her out of the books. Orange Crush goblin doesn't speak english and rants and raves and smashes stuff. Peter breaks up with MJ. The End.

Luckily Bendis quickly turned things around, giving us Warriors, Annual 1, Sable, Deadpool, and Morbious. And in a week Clone Saga~!

3. Ben who?
Hmmm, you know what's an ******* thing to do? Forgetting your brothers birthday. You know whats even worse? Forgetting your brother completley! Thats what Parker has been written as, ignoring the memory of the guy who saved his life, and casting him aside as "just a clone". "Oh what Torch? no that was my clone, its best to just skip over that period and forget it ever happened" Man if Benjy ever came back, Marvel would have some serious amunition for a vendetta against Pete. Just a clone? The guy jumped in front of a freaking Glider to save you!

2. That Spider bite must've taken a few brain cells with it,
"Duh, me have shiny costume, me have Tony Stark, he Iron Man, he protect me and family, me unmask infront of Cameras. Me upstanding citizen" Peter Parker, has become a very, very special boy as off late, by taking off his mask. Considering all the ramifications this little move could have on his family its quite obvious from the start that it is a very, very bad move. However inspired by Aunt May telling him that he has nothing to hide, (hasn't she been locked in a box for a year and buried alive by Norman Osborn?) Peter decides to takes off his mask, and show the world the famous Parker baby blues. Unfortunatly, he is now being sued by the Bugle, he is now being targeted by every single villain known to man, MJ and May are now living in constant danger forever, and of course, he has to now join Iron Mans hero gestapo. This is really, really bad writing. A seven year old would've known the effects of this particular move, so why the hell wouldn't have Mister Scholarship? Christ, register with the government, and than have Tony tell everyone you've registered, but you need to protect your family. Honsetly when your rogues gallery, is larger than every single New Avenger's combined, you can't just take off your mask and expect to be safe. How stupid can you get!?

1. The Other, er... comic books you could have been reading
I don't have to say much here, let me just give you the details of what I hate about this story, in twelve parts

1. It's 12 issues long
2. Peter eats a guys head
3. Peter's use magical wolverine stingers
4. Peter's disease is never mentioned again
5. The Spider definatly picked Peter to be the magical Spider deity
6. 4 of those twelve issues were drawn by Pat Lee
7. 4 of those twelve issues were written by Reginald Hudlind
8. It produced the new Iron Costume (#8)
9. Did anything really happen???
10. Joey Q's little thank you note at the end of the last ASM
11. Lots of useless powers. "I can now identify different Spider species!"
12. Joey Q and JMS telling everyone how much this story sucked.

****. You. Quesada..

 

[bengan]

Im sorry to say but I dont read spider-man comics anymore but what the h*ll???!?!?!?!?

1) Aunt May turned out to be an actress that Osborn hired. (ASM #400)

Whaaaaa? Someone please explain!!

3) Doc Ock brought back to life by "life force transferring machine" again. WTF?!

Again, what do you mean with "again". Another time? Not by Hydra?

6) GWEN STACY HAD SEX WITH HARRY OSBORN?!!? WHADA***?!

is Gwen Stacy back??? What?


man, Spier-man sucks!!

 

[Dyeathrose]

Bengan - Number One, it was retconned than Aunt May really didn't die, Norman hired an actress to portray her. So she's back.

Not sure about the Doc Ock one. He only died once and was brought back by a mystic...thing.

During the Sins Past arc, it was revealed that Gwen Stacy slept with Norman sometime while she was still alive and gave birth two twins who look like her and Pete. They had rapid-aging and tried to kill Peter. Boy went mad, girl tried to seduce him.

 

[Captivated]

My top ten...in no particular order:

10- Relaunches. They continually relaunch the secondary books instead of just (gasp) changing the creative teams! There should stil be a Spectacular and a Web of...

9- No supporting cast. We have no one left. Marvel has either killed them, forgotten about them, or they feel that Aunt May, Mary Jane, and the Avengers are all that Peter needs.

8- Spidey is a tool. He has become a brainless baboon who follows Tony Stark to the bitter end. It's ******ed. Peter used to be his own man...now look at him.

7- Spider-Man...an Avenger?! This doesn't anger me as an idea, but Spidey has proven to be the most useless Avenger ever. The GLA are more useful than Spidey, at this point. It's pathetic. Not to mention he's on the "New" Avengers....not the REAL Avengers...

6- Spider-Man: Sins Past. This was the first shot Marvel really fired at fandom. It totally betrayed the characters it portrayed, and it was so ou of continuity that it wasn't even funny. On top of that, even if it HAD been good, the ending was so anti-climactic, that it was rendered useless.

5- The Other. This is the worst Spider-Man story ever. Nothing about it is good, and it lead to the next few problems I have with the Spidey-books lately. Also, it changed Spider-Man's ORIGIN. Argue it all you want, it plainly states that he is now powered by a magical pagan Spider-God.

4- Spider-Man killing Morlun. Morlun?! Of all the characters Spidey shoud have killed, Norman, Carnage, or even Morbius (out of pity), he kills Mr.Nobody, Morlun?! Not only does he do it, but it was uncalled for. If he can stab a guy through the arms and hold him down, then he can hold him until the Avengers arrive, as opposed to eating his freakin' head.

3- That damned ugly costume. How anyone can argue that this costume isn't hideous is beyond me. It was a joke when it was introduced, and it's a joke now. The fact that a good artist makes it look better is a testament to the artist, not the suit.

2- The unmasking. It is cool in the premise os Civil War. It works FOR THAT STORY. However, all this does in the Spider-man books is give the writers a little more time before their lack of creativity becomes evident again. Find me the last issue of ASM that didn't revolve around some sort of "Major change". That's what I thought.

1- The books are no longer fun for me. I used to enjoy reading a Spider-man book. Whenever the books came out, I couldn't wait to read them! They were on the top of the stack!! Every issue was chock full of gorgeous artwork and light-hearted, fun storytelling.

Now....now I open an issue, cringing at whatever "Shocking Change" will result from this issue, further alienating me from the hero I grew up with. Every issue, or arc, something catastrophic happens. Spidey dies, Spidey comes back, Spidey gets a new costume, Spidey kills a guy, Spidey unmasks in front of the whole world, Gwen and Norman's illegitimate children seek revenge upon Spidey....

It's ridiculous, and it isn't much fun to open up an issue thinking about how the current powers-that-be are going to totally screw up the hero each and every issue.

There's my opinion, and it's worth what you paid for it, I suppose.

Pretty much sums it up for me too!!

When I started reading, I bought a handful of SM comics for my nephew. I was so intrigued I went back the next day because I HAD to find out what happened. MKSM especially had me hooked.

If I had walked into that comicbook store today... I'd have SO much more free time and money!

JQ please note: NO ONE has mentioned the marriage!!

 

[boywonder13]

Im sorry to say but I dont read spider-man comics anymore but what the h*ll???!?!?!?!?


Whaaaaa? Someone please explain!!

Again, what do you mean with "again". Another time? Not by Hydra?

is Gwen Stacy back??? What?


man, Spier-man sucks!!

her most recent "death", the "Aunt May" who died was, in a widely-derided plot twist, revealed to be a "genetically-altered actress" who impersonated her while May was held captive by villains.


ABout the Gwen thing before she died she had sex with Norman and had two kids go to the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sins_Past

 

[bengan]

Yea I looked Gwen up. Sorry for writing but i was so shocked!! And that Aunt May thing sucks!! They just opened up to eachother...and she was an IMPOSTER!!! I hate marvel for doing this!

 

[hex]

1) I think they destroyed a great comic book by retcnning that...
2) It's Norman, the green scapegoat... when something goes wrong in the spidey verse... blame Norman...
3)WTF?! Indeed but, I'd rather have doc ock back than Morlun or Shathra returning *shudders*
4) It was Norman who tampered with the Evidence... Although I'm a fan of Reilly I didn't liked the fact that pete was dead...
5) He could have moved to the west coast... but nooo!!! they had to kill him... those bastards! Then they make Peter a moron...
6)It was NORMAN... Mr. Scapegoat strikes again, and JMS's crappy ideas "raped" by Joe Q... It was supposed to be Peter...
7)Trick to make you like ben more...
8)At least they didn't make him a male escort...
9)Spider-man is now a pokémon...
10) This you can blame on JMS...

Mine are:
1)shoving the spider-totem thing in my face, and instead of making it a Possibility for an origin it was made into the Actual Origin
2) The over-evolution of Spidey... He's now a frickin' pokémon... He's "Evolved" TWICE!!! and he gets dumber after each evolution...
3)The Norman /Gwen Squeaky Mattress session...
4)god awful red and gold abomination... with tentacles...
5)The big bad Wolverine rip-off stingerz!!!
6)Peter's dumbassness (Unmasking is here)
7)JMS
8)Joe Q
9)Every story MUST be told in seix-twelve frickin issues!!! Can't they make stories that resolve the main plot in one issue and leaving small loose ends to deal with in the next issue...
10)Complete diesregard for continuity, and bending/destroying the characters so they fit to the story...

LOL!! OOPS! I was so pissed when I typed this I kept saying Harry instead of Norman! my bad. I'm so embarrassed.

 

[hex]

Mine are:
1)shoving the spider-totem thing in my face, and instead of making it a Possibility for an origin it was made into the Actual Origin
2) The over-evolution of Spidey... He's now a frickin' pokémon... He's "Evolved" TWICE!!! and he gets dumber after each evolution...
3)The Norman /Gwen Squeaky Mattress session...
4)god awful red and gold abomination... with tentacles...
5)The big bad Wolverine rip-off stingerz!!!
6)Peter's dumbassness (Unmasking is here)
7)JMS
8)Joe Q
9)Every story MUST be told in seix-twelve frickin issues!!! Can't they make stories that resolve the main plot in one issue and leaving small loose ends to deal with in the next issue...
10)Complete diesregard for continuity, and bending/destroying the characters so they fit to the story...

4) well that won't last at least, Spidey won't have it for long...
5) Stingers? I don't even wanna know..
6) Agreed. Pure BS
7) sigh..
8) I respect the guy for saving Marvel and introducing Marvel Knights, and DD but he just doesn't know Spidey. =P
9) SERIOUSLY I'M SICK of "oh let's tell a multi issue story to sell more issues"
10) that's Marvel for ya. which why currently I make mine DC

 

[hex]

Hey, don't rag on the choice to make him a teacher. I actually thought that was a brilliant move. It was effed up, but the original move was a nice little innovation.

But dude, Pete's no highschool teach, he's College Prof AT LEAST or MIT C'mon! And the only reason (as I stated before) was to tell "urban youth stories" to appeal to today's readers. woo.

 

[hex]

I'll just address this point.

It was no machine that brought Ock back to life. It was some mystic ritual that takes the life energy out of someone and transfers it into the body of another. In Ock's case, Stunner sacrificed herself for Octavius.

No machine involved. And what do you mean by "again"?? Ock only ever died the once.

Anyway, I don't care if it was Britney Spears who brought Ock back. Fact is he's back. I'd rather have him back than not have him around at all.

Obviously you're a Doc Ock fan, as was I before I realized, how the hell does he keep getting punched in the face by someone who can lift over 10 tons, and still kick that guys arse!? It don't make sense! Anywho, to address your post, Um.. as I recall okay I only flipped through it becuz I didn't want to damage the comic as I often do when I read something that pisses me off,
There was a machine that both were hooked up to, regardless of it being part of an ancient spiritual voodoo, um.. do realize what I just said before?! LIFE TRANSFERING WHatever the hell it's BS!!

 

[hex]

Dude why did you waste so many reason when 1 could have sufficed.


THE CLONE SAGA SUCKED.

THE OTHER SUCKED.


I mean i could have digged spideys other powers had it stayed science based evolution and of course, he didnt turn iron mans ***** 2 issues later.

It's not wasting, it's the number of times I tried to pick up and actually purchase Spidey books, only to have it blow my friggin' mind each time Marvel showed me how much they hate Spidey and love Money

 

[hex]

9. Baby May
Marvel, has been pushing the Spider-baby on us for about two years and we're all pretty pumped. However due to some Clone Saga retooling.. Peter, comes back, and having a kid would drastically age this hip young swinger. So the Baby is removed from the picture. However nobody at Marvel, having the stones to actually kill it, make it seem as though Norman Osborn had taken it. Something Marvel believed would be the end of all the baby talk. However, every single Spider-fan out there saw through it, and Marvel had to quickly have Kaine steal her, and than disapeer for the next 8 years. Is Baby May dead? Nope, but you can bet your ass you ain't seeing her in 616 in this lifetime

8. You Will Believe a Spider Can Fly!
Ok so Spidey gets a new costume from Iron Man, because uh, all his other costumes were damaged. Somehow Peter accepts it even though it has Tony Starks color scheme. As well the costume has these appendages on the back to deal with Doc Ock and stuff, and to give it a more eight legged Spider feel ,however the damn suit has only three legs . It's also bullet proof, and uh, can glide... for several miles... uh yeah....

7.Osborn did it!
Got a problem with Spider-Man that needs to be solved? Osborn did it! That's all you need to say to wrap up a story real quick and be able to get to DC much quicker by doing so. Gwen Stacy, getting it the way of progress? Osborn did it!. Is your Clone Saga running too long? Osborn did it! Peter Parker needs the return of his ailing Aunt? Osborn did it! Need a father to Gwen Stacy's children, to wrap up a ******ed plot? Osborn did her!

6.Gwen gets around
I can only imagine how the abomination known as Sins Past came to light. How in christs name did it get by the editors? Let alone the few people at Marvel with basic common sense? Let me explain what went wrong and you tell me if this belongs in a comic book, or some day time soap opra.

Gwen has sex with Norman Osborn, because of his apparant Magnatism. She carries his kids, and goes to France to deliver them.(She looked pretty skinny for a woman carrying 2 children!) After which MJ finds out, and doesn't tell Peter for about 10 years. Osborn kills Gwen, but not to hurt Peter, like the most important Spider-Man comic book ever said
But to actually get revenge on her for not letting her have his kids. *Sigh*
Peter goes nuts and destroys the living room, and than turns into a good guy again, and decides to help the kids, who are growing so old because of the Goblin serum in their blood(Thanks deus ex machina! ) One of the kids finds the Goblin hideout and discovers Peter was telling the truth about Osborn, but ignores that fact and puts on his new Grey Goblin costume!! (Marvel once again ignores some more continuity, and has Osborn injecting himself with the serum) He goes to attack Peter, but his sister has turned good and shoots him out of the sky. She leaves, and he wakes up with amnesia. Peter has some really creepy ending where he's ******* off to Gwen, while talking to MJ. Did I mention they made a sequel to this arc? I can't tell you about it because, I stopped reading after one issue. Even Citizen Kaine, aint that strong.

Oh yeah Baby May.. forgot about that one, and what you said about Gwen, I couldn't even read your post it was too infrur iating!!

 

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Im sorry to say but I dont read spider-man comics anymore but what the h*ll???!?!?!?!?


Whaaaaa? Someone please explain!!

Again, what do you mean with "again". Another time? Not by Hydra?



man, Spier-man sucks!!

This regarding Doc Ock, he was originally killed by Kaine.