🇺🇸 Traitor, Con-man, Insurrectionist, Sexual Predator, Convicted Felon and Soon-to-be Fascist Dictator: The Trump Thread

[Lily Adler]

Maybe they get that its all just a game to Trump and he has to say those things. Once he's in they'll be able to do what they want no matter whatever he says now.

Didn't come across to the Trump shooter.

 

[squeekness]

Didn't come across to the Trump shooter.

I don't think the shooter was a political guy. He just wanted to be notorious.

 

[Cap2024]

This is going piss off far right people.

They’ll target him again and then the right will blame their own people on Democrats again.

 

[Cap2024]

I don't think the shooter was a political guy. He just wanted to be notorious.

The kid was an edge lord.

He was a conservative and took pride in being the lone conservative in a room, according to students.

Maybe they get that its all just a game to Trump and he has to say those things. Once he's in they'll be able to do what they want no matter whatever he says now.

Trump isn’t the cult hero to the far right. He has always only been a means to an end.

They’ve already turned against him. This is going to just throw more fuel onto that fire.

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[MagnarTheGreat]

This is wild.

He's just a degenerate liar. The more he lies about something it's because he knows it's trouble for him, like E. Jean Carroll.

 

[squeekness]

See? Trump lies to cover his own butt, whatever he has to do to get the votes. I wouldn't believe anything he says.

 

[Cap2024]

See? Trump lies to cover his own butt, whatever he has to do to get the votes. I wouldn't believe anything he says.

Obviously.

The issue being you gave the far right far more credit than they have shown themselves capable of.

Parts of the right ARE angry since they DO legitimately believe he is distancing himself from it.

 

[squeekness]

Obviously.

The issue being you are giving the far right far more credit than they have ever shown themselves capable of.

Parts of the right ARE angry since they DO legitimately believe he is distancing himself from it.

Does it matter? They will still have to vote for him to get 2025 going. I don't see Kennedy pushing that agenda.

 

[Cap2024]

Does it matter? They will still have to vote for him to get 2025 going. I don't see Kennedy pushing that agenda.

Does it matter? Um…. Duh?

The far right consists of wannabe killers and terrorists who will turn against Trump to violent degrees at any sign that he is distancing himself from him. Thus why they have fantasies of militias, civil wars, and at times some fully enact these idea out.

Thus - why it was reported that Project 2025 may have set the killer off among law enforcement circles.

YOU think in terms of voting, as shown in you resorting to mentioning Kennedy.

THEY think in terms of violence. They believe they can achieve what they want by instilling terror and force to push people to their side.

 

[squeekness]

But how does turning against him before the election help them? If Trump had been killed would they have had time to get someone like Vance in place? They would be better off killing Trump AFTER Trump wins, sliding Vance into place, right?

 

[Cap2024]

But how does turning against him before the election help them? If Trump had been killed would they have had time to get someone like Vance in place? They would be better off killing Trump AFTER Trump wins, sliding Vance into place, right?

What you aren’t getting is the obvious -

These AREN’T logical thinkers.

If they were, they wouldn’t be resorting to violence in the first place.

Many of them are mentally ill and incapable of thinking ahead.

You are attempting to apply logic to people who are known to be illogical; thus why they believe acts of terrorism will get them what they want.

They don’t think like you do. If they did, they wouldn’t resort to terrorism.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

It's weird this kid had no manifestos, no social media postings, no revealing texts, etc

He went through great lengths to keep his motives secret.

 

[Cap2024]

It's weird this kid had no manifestos, no social media postings, no revealing texts, etc

He went through great lengths to keep his motives secret.

He was mostly a loner outsider who more than likely kept mostly to himself. It's par the course with his type.

Him NOT having a manifesto is partly why it's obvious that he didn't do it for fame or notoriety. Those types often like to build themselves up to be larger than life figures and leave behind manifestos about how their way of thinking is the "best" and so on. They are all about boasting.

The militia types often fear any form of government surveillance or possible surveillance. Thus, those types wouldn't likely trust texting or widely known social media sites. They are most known for being paranoid. Many often describe them as quiet, outsiders, few friends - they keep everything close to the vest. That is to say - that Thomas didn't isn't really a surprise.

All in all, he was the classic "lone" wolf far right shooter.

Their way of thinking is often simply:

"X doesn't agree with me, therefore X is dangerous and must be disposed of."

If they think beyond that it is either that they will go out "in a blaze of glory" or who their next target will be.

In this case, the next target more than likely being Biden (thus why he was looking into where both would be). Classmates have stated Thomas didn't like either. Per why Trump first - earliest opportunity.

Here per knowing the kid was seen with a Trump shirt before, hung out with Trump hat wearing friends, etc. - in a way he reminds me of Mark David Chapman who used to be a Beatles fan, but still killed John Lennon due to feeling betrayed by him. At some point he transitioned from being a Trump shirt wearing kid to adding Trump to the people he didn't like.

 

[squeekness]

It's weird this kid had no manifestos, no social media postings, no revealing texts, etc

He went through great lengths to keep his motives secret.

These kinds of killers frustrate me. Like everyone else the mystery is so unsatisfying. We want closure. Like that guy in Vegas who brought an arsenal to his hotel room and shot up that concert. Why? He was supposedly just a normal guy. This kid had issues, yes, but we don't know what he was so ticked off about. He was just as likely to shoot up a school. Crazy.

 

[Iceman]

Trump’s VP deleted tweet:

So many enablers leaving all their beliefs behind to get ahead.

 

[squeekness]

He was mostly a loner outsider who more than likely kept mostly to himself. It's par the course with his type.

Him NOT having a manifesto is partly why it's obvious that he didn't do it for fame or notoriety. Those types often like to build themselves up to be larger than life figures and leave behind manifestos about how their way of thinking is the "best" and so on. They are all about boasting.

The militia types often fear any form of government surveillance or possible surveillance. Thus, those types wouldn't likely trust texting or widely known social media sites. They are most known for being paranoid. Many often describe them as quiet, outsiders, few friends - they keep everything close to the vest. That is to say - that Thomas didn't isn't really a surprise.

All in all, he was the classic "lone" wolf far right shooter.

Their way of thinking is often simply:

"X doesn't agree with me, therefore X is dangerous and must be disposed of."

If they think beyond that it is either that they will go out "in a blaze of glory" or who their next target will be.

In this case, the next target more than likely being Biden (thus why he was looking into where both would be). Classmates have stated Thomas didn't like either. Per why Trump first - earliest opportunity.

I agree this was a blaze of glory guy. I don't know for a fact he thought Trump in particular was a threat. If so i think he would have said so.

 

[squeekness]

So many enablers leaving all their beliefs behind to get ahead.

It's sickening. Why do they grovel before the most immoral man I know? It's embarrassing.

 

[Cap2024]

I agree this was a blaze of glory guy. I don't know for a fact he thought Trump in particular was a threat. If so i think he would have said so.

The fact that he tried to KILL Trump obviously shows that he thought of Trump as an enemy rather than friend.

Missing wasn't intentional. The kid is known to have a terrible aim.

To these people, classic terrorist way of thinking: "if you aren't with me, then you are my enemy." Their thinking isn't nuanced, it's very black or white.

If he was nonchalant about Trump - he would have went after someone else. That he didn't and purposefully took his time to try to attack Trump shows that clearly Trump was obviously his target.

This is why law enforcement is primarily treating it as a political attack rather than as a mass shooting attempt where Trump happened to be present. Taking the time to focus on an individual target is the opposite of what a mass shooter does and would do - those types, often seek to cause the most damage as possible.

 

[squeekness]

The fact that he tried to KILL Trump obviously shows that he thought of Trump as an enemy rather than friend.

To these people, classic terrorist way of thinking: "if you aren't with me, then you are my enemy." Their thinking isn't nuanced, it's very black or white.

If he was nonchalant about Trump - he would have went after someone else. That he didn't and purposefully took his time to try to attack Trump shows that clearly Trump was obviously his target.

The Vegas shooter didn't know or hate the people he shot. He was just looking for a high body count. I think this kid didn't care about Trump beyond a means to an end -- notoriety. "I'm the guy who shot Trump! Whoo hoo!" Just as he would have shot Biden.it was about putting on a show. I don't think politics had anything to do with it all. Just my opinion.

EDIT -- Meaning Trump as a celebrity would be a bigger shock than some random people, not Trump as a candidate. Much like Hinkley shooting Reagan ti impress Jodi Foster. He didn't hate Reagan's politics, it was the celebrity factor of taking down a big name.

 

[Lily Adler]

 

[squeekness]

Yeah, too bad he let thousands of Americans die by ignoring covid......

 

[Lily Adler]

I don't think he realizes Trump doesn't give a **** about Gaza or Ukraine and would let Israel and Russia do whatever they wanted...

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

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The Paul brothers are scammers.

 

[InCali]

I believe in peace, but can't you just shoot peaceful protestors in the legs?

 

[Cap2024]

The Vegas shooter didn't know or hate the people he shot. He was just looking for a high body count. I think this kid didn't care about Trump beyond a means to an end -- notoriety. "I'm the guy who shot Trump! Whoo hoo!" Just as he would have shot Biden.it was about putting on a show. I don't think politics had anything to do with it all. Just my opinion.

EDIT -- Meaning Trump as a celebrity would be a bigger shock than some random people, not Trump as a candidate. Much like Hinkley shooting Reagan ti impress Jodi Foster. He didn't hate Reagan's politics, it was the celebrity factor of taking down a big name.

YOU are confusing mass shooters and shooters who go after a specific target.

MASS SHOOTERS (a la Vegas) don't care who they hurt - they want as much damage and destruction as they can cause. They often don't have a particular target. And even in the cases when they do - they often forget about their list the second that they open fire since that isn't their primary motivation.

Trying to compare them as you are is akin to wanting to compare a wolf and a fox and saying they're the exact same. Killers that target specific individuals and mass shooters are NOTHING alike outside of the act of shooting to kill which is far too broad.

It's obvious to anyone who knows anything about criminology that it wasn't about notoriety - if he did care about fame he would have left some sort of manifesto or something behind. Killers seeking fame are known to boast about it since they want the spotlight. For example, the Columbine shooters and the Santa Barbara shooter (Elliot Rodger) - both left videos behind because they desired to be known; others send letters (Zodiac) or manifestos (Unabomber) that they want printed. Here, the kid kept everything to himself before and after his death (that runs contrary to attention seekers).

As said, killers have specific profiles. Thus why no law enforcement agency has stated mass shooting or simply seeking notoriety - it doesn't match those profiles. While there has been talks - in law enforcement circles - that it came down to Trump not being right enough for the shooter.

This is also why the case is so puzzling for law enforcement. Mass shooter: definitely not, Trump was the number one target - not damage for damage sake; he took his time to single Trump out. Notoriety: unlikely, the shooter was a private individual before and after his death rather than leaving anything behind to seek attention. The only thing known is that Trump was the specific target, the kid was to the right and a former Trump supporter - thus, at some point that took a turn; why that stance on Trump took a turn is the unknown (a la the motive).

Did he mean to miss and make Trump a martyr?

Did he want a different Republican to step in for Trump?

Did he and Trump have an encounter and Trump refused to shake his hand?

Did he somehow unknown to anyone else become a Biden supporter at the last second?

Did he know someone that would be hurt by Project 2025 and turned against Trump because of that?

Did he become angry that Trump wasn't far enough to the right due to distancing himself from Project 2025?

Did he want to send the country into chaos by killing both Trump and Biden?

Etc. The specific why is unknown for law enforcement. Only that it was an assassination attempt - not a mass shooting (he took his time on one target) - and that he was unlikely seeking attention because he left nothing behind to make sure that he took the spotlight - rather than remained a mostly unknown variable. The only known is that he shifted from liking Trump to wanting to kill specifically him.