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Cerebral we dont need you commenting on everyones opinions like your some depressed person thank you very much


1. they replied to me,
2. please lets act like adults here and not little children who just got their toy taken away on the playground

as long as i'm not disrespecting anyone..NO poster should have an issue with me replying to anyone....stop catching feelings...
 
Wanted has a rating of like 77% on RT.
And that is a big wtf. Wanted was alright, but 77%:huh: I just think this is a summer critics will bash movies and rightfully so as this summer hasn't been great across the board.
 
Wanted has a rating of like 77% on RT.

Hellboy had 80%

Mission: Impossible 3 had 70%

Incredible Hulk had 66%

Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow had 72%

Journey to the Center of the Earth had 61%

etc, etc...

So yes, there are a lot of "mindless popcorn movies" over the last few years that have still gotten decent reviews compared to TF:ROTF.
 
I can't think of a worse movie, ever made, than that Captain Skyhawk movie. I think the reason this movie really got such a low score is critics don't react well to sequels that don't really do anything the first didn't. That's why the first TF got a higher score despite being essentially the same thing. It makes sense.

And even though this summer was bad for movies, it's not 2004.. Resident Evil 2, Sky Captain, Alien VS Predator, Catwoman, The Village, Garfield, even Terminator Salvation is better than those mistakes.
 
And even though this summer was bad for movies, it's not 2004.. Resident Evil 2, Sky Captain, Alien VS Predator, Catwoman, The Village, Garfield, even Terminator Salvation is better than those mistakes.

Spider-Man 2 ? :huh:
 
I Just saw it and I feel a little shell shocked. I've never seen and heard so much noise and fx and felt so...numb before.

I'll give it this. Everything up until...how do I make this non-spoilery?...the "big guy" is snuffed and the Decepticons have "victory", I was mostly entertained, much more so then the first film anyway. I liked the forrest fight. The opening scene where the Autobots and the Nest members take out a couple of Decepticons was pretty cool. I also liked the stuff with Ravage, Soundwave(what little of him there was. I wish he would've come to earth though), and even the "female" undercover Decepticon. Then it all comes to a screeching halt and mediocrity and boredom set in.

Sam's parents get way too much screentime as do Sam's new roomate, the little Italian Decepticon who humps Megan Fox's leg, and worst of all those two new minstrels...um, I mean Autobots Mudflap and Skids.

Oh. My. God. They're like Jar Jar times 10 or something. Are they racially offensive as has been talked about on numerous other sites? Eh, a bit but they only say a couple of really offputting things(like the "we don't dos much reading" line) with the rest of their dialogue sounding like goofy ***** talk. Was the money that good, Tom Kenny?

Devastator sucks. He's not even worth talking about. The Fallen was all talk and no bite. The overusage of the military is too much in the finale. It worked better in the first film. Josh Duhamel and Tyrese Gibson are there for their checks.

Pluses: Starscream and Megatron's antagonism is present which is nice but there's not enough of it. Soundwave as I said before is used well. Mos of the Autobots,when they DO appear, (They have too little screentime. If the Deceptcions got shafted in the first film, the Autobots do in this one) are pretty cool. Optimus is great throughout(though i found some of his...bloodthirstiness during battle scenes to be too much and out of character).

I think people who love the first one will love this but for me, it was like someone attempted to write a superior film to it's predecessor and just said "f**k it" halfway through and just scribbled out random junk. And even though I like this better than the first, the first one was clearly more thoughtout in terms of plot.

A real mixed bag. I still liked it better than Wolverine and Terminator though.
 
I totally understand where people are coming from when they didnt like the movie. Yeah it had flaws and some characters had too much screentime and etc. And hopefully they'll make adjustments, add more depth to the characters, minimize the amount of characters and focus more on developing the Transformers relationships, etc. I persoanlly thought the movie was really good. Its a transformers movie. Based on g1 characters. We grew up watching them on the tv and now we finally get it with amazing cgi and fx on the big screen and people are complaining. You get what you get and you just hope it gets better. And hopefully it will. Like ive said before it has the potential to be great and hopefully it will be.
 
I totally understand where people are coming from when they didnt like the movie. Yeah it had flaws and some characters had too much screentime and etc. And hopefully they'll make adjustments, add more depth to the characters, minimize the amount of characters and focus more on developing the Transformers relationships, etc. I persoanlly thought the movie was really good. Its a transformers movie. Based on g1 characters. We grew up watching them on the tv and now we finally get it with amazing cgi and fx on the big screen and people are complaining. You get what you get and you just hope it gets better. And hopefully it will. Like ive said before it has the potential to be great and hopefully it will be.
some fans said 2 years ago that they want more robots. they got them here.


after ROTF i dont want more robots. i say 10 autobots and 10 decepticons should be the maximum number for the final fight. no more. that way everyone gets their time to shine and ILM's computers will not burn.
 
Some people are just not going to like Michael Bay's style. Even with 1st Transformers movie, A LOT people hate his style, but this movie Amplied everything by like 100, so what's really bad in 1st one gotten Worsen for the people that don't like it.

On the other hand, what's GREAT about the 1st one (Action/Special Effects/Megan Fox/Babes) Gotten 100 times BETTER!!!

Even more Transformers Dialogs in this movie than the 1st one!!!
:)
 
Not only should the count probably be reduced, but when they have to focus on specific Transformers, let's focus on those that aren't complete idiots.
 
Some people are just not going to like Michael Bay's style. Even with 1st Transformers movie, A LOT people hate his style, but this movie Amplied everything by like 100, so what's really bad in 1st one gotten Worsen for the people that don't like it.

On the other hand, what's GREAT about the 1st one (Action/Special Effects/Megan Fox/Babes) Gotten 100 times BETTER!!!

Even more Transformers Dialogs in this movie than the 1st one!!!
:)
i understand TF fans (cartoon or comics) complaining about Bay's movies. but people who dont care for TF. i just dont get it. Bay for 10 years is making the same type of movies. they are always promoted like that.
 
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Not only should the count probably be reduced, but when they have to focus on specific Transformers, let's focus on those that aren't complete idiots.
well in the first movie there was Glen. now he was out and there was a robot making jokes(twin).
i dont agree with their approach. so 2 years ago people said they want more robots and less humans. Bay did this. but he thought they mean more robots for joking :woot:

so now we should complain less jokes and the same amount of robots like in ROTF and more of Jolt,arcee ,....

lets give them 3 years and maybe in 2012 it will be like all fans wanted.
 
There better be more Sideswipe in the next one. After his badass introduction, I thought he'd be a total scene stealer throughout the Movie.
 
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Beast Wars- A perfect example of how this film series should be like. 7 characters on each side. and each episode focused on several characters and by the end you always felt like you "knew" them. And it wasnt just action. They was strategy on each side. Megatron wasnt some guy just wanted to destroy everything, he was smart, and ahead of everyone. Optimus would send out groups and keep track of them and everything like a true leader. Maximals were like a family, in the film series not so much more like theyre forced to work together it seems a little.

Im just saying this is what they need to add to this film series. More depth. And then you go from good to great.
 
I saw this last night and was disappointed like many. Don't get me wrong, I'm not some random Bay hater; I liked the first one in a "turn off your brain kind of way", but the first film's problems are here again and even worse. But let's start off with the good.

The film's effects are excellent and re easily some of the best I've ever seen in my life, from the slow-motion shots--which are used a lot, but I didn't mind that at all--to awesome POV shots(the one with the dog Transformer shooting at the base). Also, when robots aren't pounding the **** out of each other, and humans are on screen this film looks great. those two were the saving grace I also didn't hate the acting. For the most part, it should be blamed on the writers and Bay. Shia didn't bug me, Josh Holloway and Tyrese Gibson did were fine, and one girl who unintentionally did a great job at playing a lifeless robot. Also, a few transformers, Optimus, Soundwave, Megatron, and Starscream got a lot more screentime then expected.

Now onto the bad...this film's story, for the most part, just sucked. I didn't mind the first one, which was very simple, but enjoyable. Here, it's all over the place with so much stuff that's just so over the top and in the end unbelievable- even if it exsist's in a world with giant robots. Also, some parts were just too hard to follow. It's extremely fast pace would force so much at you in one moment then it would move on to the next and I'd be sitting there "Um...what?" and there's next to no development for every human and transformer.
. Sometimes I had a main problem with what was going onscreen. I didn't have this problem in TF1 but here, sometimes I could only tell if, for example, Optimus was winning would be because and red and blue blur or streak was beating up a gray blur or streak. I was a wee bit tired so that could've been the reason. I don't know whether it was the film's budget or Bay was just trying to make it feel more intense.
. Megan Fox. While she's very hot, she can't act for ****.
. The film's editing was Awful. Some scenes were way too fast paced where you'd get about 5 shots every second, a character would suddenly appear out of the blue, etc.
. Some of the comic relief. While Sam's parents had their moments, most of the time I would roll my eyes or cringe, though the actors did a fine job for the most part, especially the dad. Don't get me started on the twins. Trying to add pop culture references as pretty much two characters were about as bad as it gets. Almost down to Jar Jar Binks level. How they got more screentime than any other transformer other than Prime is beyond me.
. Runtime. This film was waaaaaaay too long and by the end I just really didn't care anymore. The last action scene which I'm pretty sure was longer than Ghandi got boring fast and couldn't live up to any other action scene. Hell, even when when everybody think it's about to pick up with an awesome climax Between Prime, Megatron, and The Fallen it ends abruptly and can't even live up to the first one.
. Characters. There were just too many and next to none of them developed and a hell of a lot of them were written poorly. This film focuses only on the Transformers I mentioned before and the rest are absolutes, they're just there. Also, some Decepticons didn't live up to what I was hoping for. Megatron and Starscream are pretty much Abbot and Costello. The Fallen didn't really do anything, the lazy bastard. We heard him ***** and moan, until Prime was killed then he shows up again for about 5 seconds and then he's killed. He came nowhere close to how badass and intimidating Megatron was in the first one.

Overall, this film proves that bigger, sometimes, isn't better. If they "simplified" the film and cut out which wasn't needed(unfunny jokes, some scenes cut, the climax cut in half, etc.)and focused more on the characters then this would've been a much better. Still, in the end, I went into the theater with my brain turned off and was entertained. 6/10
 
Lizard thought the film would be bad before he saw it. Look at his posts. If you go looking for flaws you will find them. I have no expectations for this film and I realize that this film is nothing more than a summer popcorn flick with flashy action, comedy, and hot women.

I judge a film when I see it.


You're one to talk...
 
I saw this last night and was disappointed like many. Don't get me wrong, I'm not some random Bay hater; I liked the first one in a "turn off your brain kind of way", but the first film's problems are here again and even worse. But let's start off with the good.

The film's effects are excellent and re easily some of the best I've ever seen in my life, from the slow-motion shots--which are used a lot, but I didn't mind that at all--to awesome POV shots(the one with the dog Transformer shooting at the base). Also, when robots aren't pounding the **** out of each other, and humans are on screen this film looks great. those two were the saving grace I also didn't hate the acting. For the most part, it should be blamed on the writers and Bay. Shia didn't bug me, Josh Holloway and Tyrese Gibson did were fine, and one girl who unintentionally did a great job at playing a lifeless robot. Also, a few transformers, Optimus, Soundwave, Megatron, and Starscream got a lot more screentime then expected.

Now onto the bad...this film's story, for the most part, just sucked. I didn't mind the first one, which was very simple, but enjoyable. Here, it's all over the place with so much stuff that's just so over the top and in the end unbelievable- even if it exsist's in a world with giant robots. Also, some parts were just too hard to follow. It's extremely fast pace would force so much at you in one moment then it would move on to the next and I'd be sitting there "Um...what?" and there's next to no development for every human and transformer.
. Sometimes I had a main problem with what was going onscreen. I didn't have this problem in TF1 but here, sometimes I could only tell if, for example, Optimus was winning would be because and red and blue blur or streak was beating up a gray blur or streak. I was a wee bit tired so that could've been the reason. I don't know whether it was the film's budget or Bay was just trying to make it feel more intense.
. Megan Fox. While she's very hot, she can't act for ****.
. The film's editing was Awful. Some scenes were way too fast paced where you'd get about 5 shots every second, a character would suddenly appear out of the blue, etc.
. Some of the comic relief. While Sam's parents had their moments, most of the time I would roll my eyes or cringe, though the actors did a fine job for the most part, especially the dad. Don't get me started on the twins. Trying to add pop culture references as pretty much two characters were about as bad as it gets. Almost down to Jar Jar Binks level. How they got more screentime than any other transformer other than Prime is beyond me.
. Runtime. This film was waaaaaaay too long and by the end I just really didn't care anymore. The last action scene which I'm pretty sure was longer than Ghandi got boring fast and couldn't live up to any other action scene. Hell, even when when everybody think it's about to pick up with an awesome climax Between Prime, Megatron, and The Fallen it ends abruptly and can't even live up to the first one.
. Characters. There were just too many and next to none of them developed and a hell of a lot of them were written poorly. This film focuses only on the Transformers I mentioned before and the rest are absolutes, they're just there. Also, some Decepticons didn't live up to what I was hoping for. Megatron and Starscream are pretty much Abbot and Costello. The Fallen didn't really do anything, the lazy bastard. We heard him ***** and moan, until Prime was killed then he shows up again for about 5 seconds and then he's killed. He came nowhere close to how badass and intimidating Megatron was in the first one.

Overall, this film proves that bigger, sometimes, isn't better. If they "simplified" the film and cut out which wasn't needed(unfunny jokes, some scenes cut, the climax cut in half, etc.)and focused more on the characters then this would've been a much better. Still, in the end, I went into the theater with my brain turned off and was entertained. 6/10
agreed :up:
 
Beast Wars- A perfect example of how this film series should be like. 7 characters on each side. and each episode focused on several characters and by the end you always felt like you "knew" them. And it wasnt just action. They was strategy on each side. Megatron wasnt some guy just wanted to destroy everything, he was smart, and ahead of everyone. Optimus would send out groups and keep track of them and everything like a true leader. Maximals were like a family, in the film series not so much more like theyre forced to work together it seems a little.

Im just saying this is what they need to add to this film series. More depth. And then you go from good to great.


Beast Wars didn't have any human characters to worry about, which is an important part of the TF universe (the G1's, at least). Not only that, but ROTF is 2.5 hours(ish) and Beast Wars spans over like 7 seasons of 22 minute episodes each. Obviously we're going to get to know those characters better.

I'm not saying ROTF wouldn't benefit from more depth, I just think Beast Wars is a bad example.
 
My review:

Watching Michael “Blow It All To Hell” Bay’s latest thought-impaired robotic punch ‘em up Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, the sequel to 2007’s lumbering, migraine-inducing Transformers, it occurred to me that the director doesn’t give two stinking spark-plugs about his titular titanium-plated titans. Sure, we’re treated to endless scenes in which they cave in each other’s craniums with ginormous swords and mega-detonating projectiles, but personality-wise they’re empty vessels, characterized solely by their vehicular appearance and distorted booming voices. It takes a certain amount of determination to cut together 150 minutes of mechanized car-nage, Pauly Shore-level comedy and infinite shots of anonymous military people spouting jargon ala “The target is located!”, and not reveal a single interesting idea about the characters, but boy did he succeed. In fact, the flick could be renamed GoBots or Voltron and only a few superficial changes would be required.

The plot? Oy. Oddly, the script, by the shallow writing duo Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman (with added “help” from Reindeer Games scribe Ehren Kruger), manages to be both lamely simplistic and torturously convoluted at the same time. Much like the similarly bloated Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End, lots and lots of things happen, but very little matters.

Essentially Revenge of the Fallen can be synopsised as thus: Sam Witwicky (Shia LaBeouf) is departing for Maxim College – where all the women dress like Seymour Street hookers and seem perpetually on the brink of orgasmic ecstasy – when he discovers a fragment of the all-powerful All-Spark, which zaps his head full of alien code. The Decepticons, under the rule of the disgraced warlord The Fallen, need this implanted information to find a potentially world-ending device that will give them unlimited supremacy. Hence, Optimus Prime and the Autobots, along with a few one-note human sidekicks, must assemble to thwart their wicked scheme. Much joyless brawling, screaming and showering scrap metal ensues.

Transformers die-hards (Trans-fans?) will no doubt devour the numerous diesel-injected dust-ups. There’s an impressive forest-set melee where Optimus takes on multiple mechanized assailants at once, along with an impressively staged gargantuan climax in Egypt which, up to the underwhelming final boss battle, is almost pornographic in its obsession with money shots and Megan Fox’s heaving bosom. But what about the Transformers' personalities and feelings? What do they think about when not clashing? There are some interesting questions raised – probably unintentionally – regarding the alien race’s birthing process. Do these creatures mate? They appear asexual, and almost entirely masculine. How does an Optimus Prime reproduce? Also, we get a glimpse at Robot Heaven, where angelic Auto-bots – I’m guessing that there’s a Robot Hell reserved for Decepticons – stand in front of the pearly gates bathed in light. Is there Transformer theology? Who do they pray to? Do they dream of electric sheep? Fans might as well bellow these questions into the never-ending void, because the film-makers could care less. They’re vehicles for seeking and instigating mayhem, little else.

...Which would be forgivable if there was a single human performance in Revenge of the Fallen that rose above the level of transparent. LaBeouf, the team’s MVP and everyman, is helpless in the face of Bay’s orchestra of idiocy. He sweats fetchingly, shouts insipid terminology with gusto and gamely charges into the next set-pieces head-first. Megan Fox is window dressing, with nothing to do except be willingly molested by Bay’s salacious camera - although newcomer Isabel Lucas is the primary target for the director’s unique brand of creepy misogyny – while Tyrese Gibson and Josh Duhamel’s soldiers are best represented in an art-imiating-life dialogue exchange wherein they are informed that they are paid “to shoot, not talk”. John Turturro, reprising his annoying Sector 7 agent role, feels unnecessary but somewhat pleasant when compared to Ramon Rodriguez, as Sam’s conspiracy theory-fixated roommate, a narcissistic jerk of a character that’s an endurance test to tolerate.

Bay surrounds his human and mechanical nonentities with liberal heapings of *********ory CG polish, characters TALKING! LIKE! THIS!, racially insensitive caricatures (the “twin” Auto-bots Skids and Mudflap have already provoked much passionate debate) and toilet-bowl sex humour. This is the type of film where mini-bots defile Megan Fox’s leg, dogs graphically hump each other (twice!) and a giant Decepticon named Devastator wields wrecking-ball testicles. I don’t necessarily blame Bay for going juvenile, but there is a cold-hearted cynicism at work that feels condescending toward adults and potentially harmful to impressionable children.

Ultimately, Transformers makes the classic blockbuster mistake of not comprehending the difference between enchanting an audience and numbing it into submission. Despite its massive budget, there’s not a single truly memorable line or moment of creative inspiration to be found amongst the reckless state-of-the-art computer-born gimmickry. At the conclusion of Revenge of the Fallen little doubt remains that Optimus Prime and his hulking horde of synthetic ciphers will return. Maybe next time they’ll actually let us see the soul beneath the aluminum armour.

2 out of 5
 
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Great review. You'll undoubtedly be accused of being too analytical and unable to "have fun".
 
Good review, even though I disagree. :yay:

I thought Shia was really good in this. Even better then in the first one.
 
I enjoyed it for what it was. a robot movie. I mean really, why are so many people looking for real-life logic in **** that isn't going to happen? If you want that, go watch terminator.


And honestly, as an african-american, I didn't find mudflap and skids racist so much as I found them unnecessary. we already have twins in the series, sideswipe, who made an appearance, and sunstreaker, who was just thrown out of the picture. But, what ever.
 
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