Revenge of the Fallen Transformers: ROTF User Review Thread

[LightningFlash]

Aren't Jolt, Sideswipe, Bumblebee, and the twins ALL Chevy?

People don't think...

GM made Bay use Jolt. Jolt was never in the script, or at least all but the final script. Hence why I said stupid GM. They, like Arad, pushed their vehicle Volt to be in the film. Which was idiotic, because in the end, Jolt was shown maybe four times, and one stupid scene...which I'll talk about right....

Stupid Jolt? He didn't even do anything to give you a chance to dislike him.

...now. Ratchet should've been the one to put Jetfire and Prime together. Instead they used Jolt which was stupid seeing as how Ratchet is supposed to be the Autobot doctor. So, yah. I dislike him because GM made Bay have to use him, and also, with a scene that should've belong to Ratchet, instead Ratchet was just telling Jolt what to do.

Sorry, but that was lame.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Stupid Jolt? He didn't even do anything to give you a chance to dislike him.

Seriously lol. I'd have loved to see Jolt and Rampage get into a whip fight

And I thought Jolt just supplied the juice for Prime and Jetfire's fusion. Electricity alone won't do anything so I'm sure Ratchet did more than it looked like.

 

[Mr. Earle]

It gives them something to do in the plot, and raises the stakes of that element a bit, making it more than just another NEST outing. It shows the broader bond between the NEST team and their robot overlords. . And it's conflict. It's one of the few conflicts found in the film, one of the few elements of Transformer/human interaction that is explored.

I liked the humans in this movie as well. The relationship of the soldiers and the autobots was well done as was the goverment's interference.

1. Jetfire was more or less already dying. He seemed to know this.

2. As someone said, what's Prime going to do, transform into a semi with jet wings?

He took his spark too quickly so there was no time to talk him out of it. But there was no emotion after that whatsoever. Only a "hurry, lets do the upgrade". Jetfire was majestic in the final scene making up for his foolishness in the Smithsonian.
Then, i knew that Prime would return to his normal self. Its Prime, he will always be a red and blue truck. Always. But there could be a better excuse to dump the parts, because normally, he could use them to augment his size. With the extra parts he could easily have acquired the ability to turn into a jet. And btw, since the autobots can travel through space, its pretty lame that they dont fly when they really need to. Sure they turn into cars and not jets, but they could grow turbines like Bee makes his hand into a cannon. Anyway.... maybe its better that they dont all fly or it would get too complicated, not to mention that it helps the plot. The decepticons can easily reinforce megatron while the autobots have to drive there. It enables the plot i guess.

It's from the comics. Megatron's constantly shooting Starscream, beating on him when he talks back, etc. Starscream spoke his mind a bit in the movie, didn't he?

I havent read the comics, but i found it over the top in the movie. SS didnt speak his mind. All he did was bow to Megatron. And if the comics do it this way too, then i am sorry but this is doing it wrong. Megatron keeps SS in his army because he uses his skills and brain (the same happened with Megatron and that pterodactyl in beast wars). He often punishes him when SS betrays him. Here Megatron was being sadistic and overly abusive for no reason except the first time when Megs was mad for being left for dead. I would have been happier if in the rest of the scenes it was limited to verbal exchange and scornful remarks. The worst part was in the end where SS suggested they retreated. The way he did it made it look like he was on his knees kissing Megatron's feet.
So anyway, would you care to give more details about their relationship in the comics?

I thought the film made it pretty clear that Megatron was loyal to the Fallen's ideas, because he wanted the machine to be used for Energon purposes. When Prime took The Fallen on, Megatron wasn't exactly helping. He fled with Starscream, and left his mentor/master to die.

Megatron helped a lot, but was damaged and thrown out of the battle. When he stood up the Fallen was already dead, so there was no point in fighting Prime as SS suggested.

Megatron was too loyal for his own good. Even if he shared the Fallen's goal, he should have been lusting for his place and his power. And i hated the forced "apprentice" remarks. They werent needed and they were really throwing us back to Star Wars.

 

[LightningFlash]

It didn't show it then. All it showed was Ratchet talking. Unless he used Cybertronian witchcraft?

 

[Mr. Earle]

Aren't Jolt, Sideswipe, Bumblebee, and the twins ALL Chevy?

The Arcees were Agustas or Aprilias if i remember correctly. GM doent do bikes.
In any case i have no problem with the product placement. Its been well suited so far. Only Jolt and the Twins were off. Jolt transforms into the ugliest car ever made, and the Twins transform into those stupid little cars that GM doest even sell. Of course they cant be all super coupes, but... come on....

...now. Ratchet should've been the one to put Jetfire and Prime together. Instead they used Jolt which was stupid seeing as how Ratchet is supposed to be the Autobot doctor. So, yah. I dislike him because GM made Bay have to use him, and also, with a scene that should've belong to Ratchet, instead Ratchet was just telling Jolt what to do.

Sorry, but that was lame.

Indeed. Bad choice. Not to mention that the upgrade should have been done mechanically and not... telepathetically...

 

[William15]

Saw the movie last Saturday. I liked it, but it had a lot of moments, that were absolutely cringeworthy. Sometimes I just couldn't look at the screen. But I know that people like average Joe and that beautiful blonde girlfriend of his, who's always sitting behind us, doesn't matter which theater you're in, gonna love it.

I loathed the German surgical robot and I was disgusted by the little robot humping Megan Fox' leg. I hate it when dogs do it, and I hate it even more when Robots do it.

I like Optimus Prime, he was good in the movie, but there were a lot of WTF moments.

It was like watching Family Guy, so I thought up some future segments of the show:

*Insert Family Guy Segment*


Head Office Warner Brothers - Meeting with Michael Bay and Story Developers.

Michael Bay:,, What does this movie need? Tell me! I wanna know. You tell me Clyde.''

*Looks at Clyde who's holding some great artwork and some classic Comic Books*

Clyde:,, Well I read this great origin story, which tells us-''

*Michael Bay interrupts*
M.B.: **** you Clyde!You're fired! Peter Griffin! What does the 2nd movie need?''

*Peter looks nervously around him*

Peter Griffin:,, Explosions...?'' He whispers.

M.B.:,,Yes!'' What else!?''

P. G.:,,Potty Humor?''

M.B.:,, Yes! Yes!''

P.G.:,, Ghetto... (M.B.:,,Yes!!) ... N*gger (M.B.:,, Yes!!!'')... Robots...?

M.B.,,YES! YES! YES!''

P.G.:,,... And a Robot ****!''


M.B.:,,YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!'' *His head explodes, just like in one of his movies*

Another example:

Brian:,, Peter this is even worse then the time you screwed upTransformers 2!''

*We see Peter sneeking around the Warner Brothers lot*

*He opens a safe in Michael Bays office*

P.G.:,,Let's see what mister Bay is up to this time. Transformers 2 ey. This is actually pretty epic. But it definitely needs some swearing and-

*We see Peter reworking the whole script*

P.G.:,, Robots that fart. Robots that cry. Inconsistencies... Well that should be enough to piss of the fa- Oh wait! Giant robot with testicles.'' (Peter starts laughing as he always does)

Yesterday I read an interview where a guy asked stupid questions about this film to himself. Now I can't find it anymore. Can someone pass me the link? It was hillarious. Like the fact that Michael Bay hates math

 

[Nathan]

Seriously lol. I'd have loved to see Jolt and Rampage get into a whip fight

And I thought Jolt just supplied the juice for Prime and Jetfire's fusion. Electricity alone won't do anything so I'm sure Ratchet did more than it looked like.

It didn't look like Ratchet did anything at all. He really only told Jolt to juice them. And then Magic.

 

[Nathan]

He took his spark too quickly so there was no time to talk him out of it. But there was no emotion after that whatsoever. Only a "hurry, lets do the upgrade".

As much as I agree with most complains, in this scenario there was simply no time. You have the Fallen who's about to snuff out the sun and Jetfire already tore his Spark out. In that moment, there is no time for hesitation. They had to act.

 

[Mr. Earle]

What i also liked was when Ratchet suggests they left the planet and Ironhide goes "thats not what Prime would have wanted". I dont know about you guys, but to me these two look like veterans, older than Bumblebee and i would have wanted to see more of them in that scene (and other scenes of course). But all we got were the kid autobots (bee included since he behaves like one very often) and not some mature emotional scene from the grown ups. I was starving for a few more seconds of Ironhide talking to Ratchet about what to do. They would have been the ones to take over anyway.

Btw, dont get me wrong. I love bumblebee and that wonderful scene where he comforts Sam.

And since i have this idea about Ironhide, you dont want to get me started on his "punkass decepticon" line. Seriously....

 

[GhostPoet]

You know...i'd say my biggest complaint was how the idea behind the movie is that the Autobots are there to protect the humans from the Decepticons...but the way Bay had things...it seemed more like the humans were doing the protecting. why have the autobots in it?

 

[AnorexicBatman]

It may sound pretentious but would hit have been too much to ask for a little more sophistuicated dialog. Something like this:

Jetfire (looking at Lennox): Why do you trust them so much Prime?
Optimus: The humans? They have proven their worth...
Jetfire: I'm an old war-horse... I see fear in their eyes... lack of confidence
Optimus: I see hope and guts... and I trust them. But do you trust me?
Jetfire: always...

*cue crazy whiz bang action scene*

Few simple lines and it adds a whole lot of character.
Though there is almost no point in discussing it...

 

[Angry Sentinel]

Guard I've been saying this for years, and I'm still saying it... You just defend movies just to see if you can, don't you. Just admit it, you could give a rat's tail about this movie, you just enjoy batting around people's criticisms to see if you can change their minds.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Saw the movie last Saturday. I liked it, but it had a lot of moments, that were absolutely cringeworthy. Sometimes I just couldn't look at the screen. But I know that people like average Joe and that beautiful blonde girlfriend of his, who's always sitting behind us, doesn't matter which theater you're in, gonna love it.

I loathed the German surgical robot and I was disgusted by the little robot humping Megan Fox' leg. I hate it when dogs do it, and I hate it even more when Robots do it.

I like Optimus Prime, he was good in the movie, but there were a lot of WTF moments.

It was like watching Family Guy, so I thought up some future segments of the show:

*Insert Family Guy Segment*


Head Office Warner Brothers - Meeting with Michael Bay and Story Developers.

Michael Bay:,, What does this movie need? Tell me! I wanna know. You tell me Clyde.''

*Looks at Clyde who's holding some great artwork and some classic Comic Books*

Clyde:,, Well I read this great origin story, which tells us-''

*Michael Bay interrupts*
M.B.: **** you Clyde!You're fired! Peter Griffin! What does the 2nd movie need?''

*Peter looks nervously around him*

Peter Griffin:,, Explosions...?'' He whispers.

M.B.:,,Yes!'' What else!?''

P. G.:,,Potty Humor?''

M.B.:,, Yes! Yes!''

P.G.:,, Ghetto... (M.B.:,,Yes!!) ... N*gger (M.B.:,, Yes!!!'')... Robots...?

M.B.,,YES! YES! YES!''

P.G.:,,... And a Robot ****!''


M.B.:,,YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!'' *His head explodes, just like in one of his movies*

Another example:

Brian:,, Peter this is even worse then the time you screwed upTransformers 2!''

*We see Peter sneeking around the Warner Brothers lot*

*He opens a safe in Michael Bays office*

P.G.:,,Let's see what mister Bay is up to this time. Transformers 2 ey. This is actually pretty epic. But it definitely needs some swearing and-

*We see Peter reworking the whole script*

P.G.:,, Robots that fart. Robots that cry. Inconsistencies... Well that should be enough to piss of the fa- Oh wait! Giant robot with testicles.'' (Peter starts laughing as he always does)

Yesterday I read an interview where a guy asked stupid questions about this film to himself. Now I can't find it anymore. Can someone pass me the link? It was hillarious. Like the fact that Michael Bay hates math

I could see that Family Guy episode working really well. Heheheh!

 

[marvelman2006]

Did anybody else like bumblebee's moment when he took on ravage and the red robot defending sam and his parents? I really liked how sam said "kill him" and bumblebee went ape**** on both of them. one of the great moments.

 

[AnorexicBatman]

Here you go:

http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/06/bonus_robs_transformers_2_faqs.php?page=1

 

[Mr. Earle]

It may sound pretentious but would hit have been too much to ask for a little more sophistuicated dialog. Something like this:



Few simple lines and it adds a whole lot of character.
Though there is almost no point in discussing it...

The only good lines of dialogue in my opinion were in these scenes:
1) sam and optimus
2) sam and bee over prime's death
3) some of jetfire's speech

The movie could have had much more...


On another note i havent commented on Torturro yet. I hated the guy in the first one but i loved him in this one. I even liked it when he took off his pants because he is weird and it suited him! He was great!

I voted for so-so btw.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

Here you go:

http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/06/bonus_robs_transformers_2_faqs.php?page=1

I love me some topless robot, but they have been bashing the film since day one. The post they put up also has easy answers in it. It's like they acted stupid and asked themselves stupid questions.

 

[dark_b]

What i also liked was when Ratchet suggests they left the planet and Ironhide goes "thats not what Prime would have wanted". I dont know about you guys, but to me these two look like veterans, older than Bumblebee and i would have wanted to see more of them in that scene (and other scenes of course). But all we got were the kid autobots (bee included since he behaves like one very often) and not some mature emotional scene from the grown ups. I was starving for a few more seconds of Ironhide talking to Ratchet about what to do. They would have been the ones to take over anyway.

Btw, dont get me wrong. I love bumblebee and that wonderful scene where he comforts Sam.

And since i have this idea about Ironhide, you dont want to get me started on his "punkass decepticon" line. Seriously....

it would be great . remember in the first movie when OP,ironhide,rachet and jazz talk at th ehouse? that was a great moment.

but again: the first movie made a lot of money. then the writter's strike came. plus Bay got 100% freedom.

 

[BlackLantern]

I liked it, the third act is a bit flimsy but I enjoyed the film

 

[BlackLantern]

and complain about Bay all you want but the 2 films combined have now grossed over 1 billiion dollars....there's commercial success and then there's ****loads of money and success...

 

[Nathan]

it would be great . remember in the first movie when OP,ironhide,rachet and jazz talk at th ehouse? that was a great moment.

I love to just hear the Autobots talk with each other, as long as they don't talk **** like the Twins. I also like the situational humor, like when Ratchet walks into the electric wires and says "Wow! That was tingly. You should try that." and Ironhides dry reply "Yeah, that looks fun." Or when Prime tells them to hide and Jazz is all like "What, where? Oh, damn... oh, no, man!"

Or my favorite line from the first Movie "The boy's pheromone levels suggests he wants to mate with the female." That line had the entire theater rolling."

I was missing that stuff and only Bumblebee provided a few moments similar to the first Movie.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

and complain about Bay all you want but the 2 films combined have now grossed over 1 billiion dollars....there's commercial success and then there's ****loads of money and success...

If there was a way to get your money back if you dislike a movie, Hollywood would be a totally different place. That's why you can't really judge a movie's entertainment value by ticket sales alone cuz you kinda have to pay to see it; whether you end up liking it or not.

 

[dark_b]

the DVD's will show if they wanted their money back. maybe it will have very poor numbers.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

That's a much better indication

 

[BlackLantern]

Im not, by the studio heads look at numbers and that's about it....if I want deep and thoughtful entertainment, I'm not looking for that in a Michael Bay film