Treated like a dog, used as a punchbag: The life and death of Baby P

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I must say, in this day & age, I'm quite thick-skinned when it comes to tales of woe, but this is quite possibly the saddest thing I've ever read. Really choked me;

http://www.order-order.com/2008/11/17-month-old-child-lived-and-died-in.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ag-The-life-death-baby-boy-called-Smiley.html


17 Month Old Child Lived and Died in Fear of Beatings



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The killer of baby P was more than 6ft 4ins with broad shoulders, a sadist with a fascination for Nazi memorabilia, he claimed he was "toughening P up for when he was older", he treated him the same way he trained his dog. When he and the lodger clicked their fingers the child would touch his forehead on the floor in fear of another beating.

From Court reports:
The boyfriend, a knife-obsessed sadist, wore combat gear, collected Nazi military memorabilia including helmets and daggers decorated with swastikas and was always seen with his beloved Rottweiler. He even kept martial arts weapons and a crossbow at the family's home. Relatives described how as a child he had tortured guinea pigs and particularly frogs, which he would skin alive before breaking their legs.

He had been prosecuted by the RSPCA for torturing animals and faced a police investigation over claims he tortured his own grandmother, allegedly to make her change her will in his favour. The elderly woman died of pneumonia before a decision was taken on whether he should face prosecution, police sources said.

Baby P's wounds began within weeks of the 32-year-old illiterate odd-job man moving into his mother's four-bedroom council house in Haringey, North London.

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The stepdad also “trained” Baby P to sit on the floor with his head between his legs for half an hour until he clicked his fingers. Police images of the tot’s injuries and stained clothes were shown to jurors.

Prosecuting QC Sally O’Neill told how a family friend revealed the depth of the abuse as the child was used like a punchbag.

She said the stepdad would “pick him up by his throat, punch him and spin him around on the computer chair until he fell off”.

Baby P’s back was broken by being forced over a bent knee or banister, the court heard.
His ears were torn where he had been lifted off the ground and fingernails, fingertips and a toenail were missing. His fingernails were pinched - and possibly ripped by pliers - until they fell off. He had lesions on his scalp — and his lips were ripped.

On Baby P's final day alive, August 2, police told his mother that they would take no further action over suspicions she had assaulted him.

Medical experts told the trial that Baby P probably received a final, fatal blow that night which stopped him breathing and knocked out a tooth, later found in his stomach.



Is it really right that he faces a maximum sentence of only 14 years?

How can people commit these acts?

How did the Local Council not prevent this from happening?

The only solace I can take is that, hopefully, a baby who had a life of hell from day one, is now in a better place.
 
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Wow, thanks for brightening up my morning.
 
Colossal, did you hear of the woman that got raped and her body was cut up into 88 different polygonal pieces and the rhombus was fed to her dog before it was killed and the guy made some other chick eat the dog while raping her too?
 
Colossal, did you hear of the woman that got raped and her body was cut up into 88 different polygonal pieces and the rhombus was fed to her dog before it was killed and the guy made some other chick eat the dog while raping her too?


what is the point of a forum if you can't post pieces that you read that really affect you, in one way or another, whether that be in a jovial, heartfelt or even distressing way?
 
I'd rather read about that than this. Easily the most disturbing thing I've read in a loong time. And I'm not the type to get all worked up over atrocities in society.
 
what is the point of a forum if you can't post pieces that you read that really affect you, in one way or another, whether that be in a jovial, heartfelt or even distressing way?

Well for most, people come here to get away and take part in conversation and some enjoyment. If I wanted to hear about atrocities being committed, I'd watch the news instead of being on here.

It's not really you that I'm annoyed with, it's just the sudden rise in these type of threads lately.
 
This shows that there are sick and crazy people out there. It can be your neighbor!
 
That is horrible and the guy who did them should be first tortured and then shot. He deserves the worst punishment concievable. Even if he gets only 14 years I do not see him getting very far in prison if people learn of his crime.
 
That is horrible and the guy who did them should be first tortured and then shot. He deserves the worst punishment concievable. Even if he gets only 14 years I do not see him getting very far in prison if people learn of his crime.

Standard response.
 
Yea this was on news the British other day, sad.
What the F is wrong with people that they would do something like this? Does it even register in there brains what they are diong?
 
These stories should just be merged into one thread. There's a new one everyday and they're really depressing.
 
These stories should just be merged into one thread. There's a new one everyday and they're really depressing.

It's not the fact that they're depressing, it's the fact that there's nothing to discuss.

"Horrible"

"Disgusting"

"He should be tortured and killed"

"They'll get him in prison for this"

etc.

Those are the only responses you're going to get.
 
Sounds to me like the legal system in England is too lenient. I know you guys don't have the death penalty, but is there no life in prison as an option?
 
Yay, another thread about death. This place is quickly becoming Faces of Death: Hype Edition.
 
It's not the fact that they're depressing, it's the fact that there's nothing to discuss.

"Horrible"

"Disgusting"

"He should be tortured and killed"

"They'll get him in prison for this"

etc.

Those are the only responses you're going to get.

Yay, another thread about death. This place is quickly becoming Faces of Death: Hype Edition.

"But this is different. They've crossed the line."
 
Sounds to me like the legal system in England is too lenient. I know you guys don't have the death penalty, but is there no life in prison as an option?

We do but life in the UK is 25 years, and its less than that for good behaviour. The brittish legal system really is messed up.
 
they need to reinstate the death penalty in england.
it is it a duty of a goverment to excute murderers.
 
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Wow. :csad:
 
This murderer deserves death penalty, or life without any possibility of parole and jailed with the harshest criminals on Earth.
 
I like to think I was ahead of the curve on the standard responses of "they should blank to the person who did this." So I made a thread about it and most of the posts were about me being an idiot.:whatever:
 
It's not the fact that they're depressing, it's the fact that there's nothing to discuss.

"Horrible"

"Disgusting"

"He should be tortured and killed"

"They'll get him in prison for this"

etc.

Those are the only responses you're going to get.

There is the potential for insightful discussion, unfortunately there aren't many psychologist and criminologist on hand to offer any.

Sounds to me like the legal system in England is too lenient. I know you guys don't have the death penalty, but is there no life in prison as an option?

The death penalty isn't a functional deterent to crime, even if it can put your mind at ease knowing someone who would do something that awful would get killed. Changes nothing.

We do but life in the UK is 25 years, and its less than that for good behaviour. The brittish legal system really is messed up.

I'm sure whatever amount of time he spends will be just as awful as you all wish it will be. From what I heard your criminal record is like a CV in prison, inmates make you reveal what you are in for. Even if that isn't the case, guards will be eager to leak the info.
 
Like you people are all forced to read this.. :whatever:
 

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