Ultimate Comics Thread - Part 1

Miles Morales sketches, the original idea was to have him around Peter's age but that was scrapped, the last picture shows Pichelli figuring out the anatomy for a 13 year old:
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Saw this posted on CBR, July 2011 sales:
Sales numbers for July are in, and they look pretty good for Ultimate books.

#24 Fallout #1
#27 Fallout #2
#31 Fallout #3
#34 AvNU #6

So the numbers aren't outstanding, but four books in the top 40 isn't bad. Personally, I think that AT LEAST Fallout #1 should have been labeled USM #161 for more sales, because I don't think all of the new Ultimate readers necessarily realized the connection between USM #160 and the miniseries. The big sales bump will likely come from the new #1s instead.

For those of you interested what kind of books DIDN'T make the top 40, here's a select few:

#41 Action Comics #903
#43-44 Detective Comics #879-880
#45 Superman #713
#46 Astonishing X-Men #40
#50 Moon Knight #3 (BENDIS)
#56 Hulk #37
#59 Wonder Woman #613
#61 Hulk #36
#62 Incredible Hulks #632
#69 Deadpool #40
#70 Incredible Hulks #633
#73 Superman Batman #86
#83 Avengers Academy #16
#86 X-23 #12
#90 Daken Dark Wolverine #11
#95 Secret Warriors #28 (HICKMAN)

All four Ultimate titles outsold every one of those books, some of which are the flagship titles of some of comics oldest franchises.

In other news, the sales estimates for USM #160 are in: 159,355. That makes it by far the highest selling comic of the year, and the highest selling book since the new Avengers #1 from May 2010.
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Ultimate Comics: Fallout #5 spoilers:
- Nick Fury has now 6 Triskelions, we now the 2 and they're building 4 more AND 2 space orbital weapons.
- The president cuts the budget by 30% which gets Nick Fury furious and scared, because he knows this will cause the enemies to react aggresivel and attack.
- Mark Millar may have saved Brian Braddock from Ultimatum, but Jonathan Hickman respects Ultimatum and takes Brian out, Brian now has been reported to have cancer, this is a great way to put Brian out of the picture and whenever Millar wants to write more Ultimate Brian, he can! Because that cancer is as effective as a tumor for Tony Stark.
- Quicksilver is insane and thinks Scarlet Witch is alive, so dead means dead in Ultimate Marvel. :p
- It seems Quicksilver still seems himself as the next step in evolution, he sees himself as a homo superior.
- Quicksilver seems to want to sell all the Mutants he finds as enemies as slaves, unless he has a bigger picture in his mind and is just being a liar to his acquintances.

Ultimate Comics: Fallout #6 preview!

Gwen takes a new look to hide herself, Ultimates 3 gets referenced in a funny way & Aunt May and Gwen seem to be taking a vacation so they can mourn their losses withouth media after them. The X-Men & Nick Fury are the 2 other stories, we don't see what Mary Jane is gonna do yet, but it'll be interesting to see what happens to her article.
 
Tons of nice stuff. :)
I was at the Ultimate panel at San Diego that you were on, and there were two things you said that really stood out to me as being very Editor-in-Chief-like. First of all, you continued the proud tradition of taking a good-natured shot at DC in public. [Alonso Laughs] But more importantly, you had said that the idea of keeping the Ultimate line very focused, limited in number and cohesive as a one story universe was something you made a priority. Starting there, what was it for you, knowing Miles was coming into "Ultimate Comics Spider-Man," that made you feel the Ultimate line in particular needed to feel more like a whole?

Alonso:
Ten years ago, "NuMarvel," as we were called back then, unveiled the Ultimate line. The goal was to boldly re-imagine the Marvel Universe as a reflection of the 21st Century, and emerging writers like Brian Bendis and Mark Millar, guys who were at the cusp of superstardom, did just that. Brian and Mark challenged readers to look at characters they loved through new eyes -- and each book wrote a book with its own distinct vibe and swagger.

That said, the sensibilities and aesthetic that drove both those books was very different. "Ultimate Spider-Man" was a brightly colored and somewhat optimistic book that featured a young protagonist who was easy to root for; "The Ultimates" displayed a much darker world view and was populated by the type of flawed anti-heroes that Mark [Millar] excels at writing. As I said, two very different books. Both excellent, but for different reasons. When you factor in Bendis and Bagley's supernaturally prolific output -- how many issues were they putting out a year, 18 to 20? -- you can see why it was so hard to create a connection between the titles, to build a cohesive universe where the impact of one book could be felt in another like it is in the Marvel Universe.

That's something we're looking to change with the relaunch. We're well aware that fans crave stories that "count," for each reading experience to fit into a greater puzzle -- if a bomb explodes in one title, fans want to see the mushroom cloud in another. Under our current game plan, we're going to do just that. Three great writers -- Bendis, Hickman and Spencer -- are going to create one Ultimate Universe where the heroes fight for the same world. Each book will have a distinct voice and provide an independent reading experience, but the characters will clearly live in the same universe. A crossover between the titles ["Ultimate Comics Spider-Man," "Ultimate Comics The Ultimates" and "Ultimate Comics X-Men"] is inevitable.
Teaser art for Ultimates #2, Reed Richard strikes!
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Teaser art for Hawkeye #2
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Girl vs. Tank!

Girl wins!

Awesome variant for #1 i love it:
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Ultimate X-Men #1 variant by Bagley
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Jimmy Hudson the smiling daredevil Wolverine, how i cheer for you
 
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So are we finally seeing the Ultimate Vision? And I take it Reed has fully embraced his status as the new Doctor Doom. Really digging the new wolverine outfit. The original outfits were nice but of course its always good to see the colorful outfits. Now someone get that to Jackman.

On other forums I don't get why people have issue with the new Spideys age. Spiderman is a special case in that he was a kid hero playing with the big boys. He was the Dc Captain Marvel who got to sit at the adults table. Hell Black Cat was very surprised that Spiderman was a kid when she kissed him.
 
Vision appeared in Ultimate Galaktus trilogy.
 
I'm thinking about jumping in on this new Spider-Man just cause I used to read Ultimate Spidey back in the day and since they're kind of rebooting things, I'd like to get back in. Should I read Fallout? Or do you think I'll be able to pick up Spidey's first issues without much trouble?
 
Yeah all #1 are promised to be new reader friendly, the Fallout series was pretty much Parker's death impact and then build up for the relaunch.
 
there's something vaguely...anime about that Ultimates artwork. I like it.
 
November Ultimate Comics 2011!

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ULTIMATE COMICS SPIDER-MAN #4
Written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS
Penciled by SARA PICHELLI
Cover by KAARE ANDREWS
Miles Morales IS the new Spider-Man!
What’s the secret behind his powers, and how will he master them?
What new and familiar enemies will rise to challenge this all-new Spider-Man?
The most-talked about story of the year keeps delivering the shocking surprises!

32 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99
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ULTIMATE COMICS HAWKEYE #4
Written by JONATHAN HICKMAN
Penciled by RAFA SANDOVAL
Cover by KAARE ANDREWS
A newly-developed mutant-serum puts the world on the brink of war!
Caught in the international conflict, Hawkeye is outnumbered with all odds against—just as he likes it!
If Hawkeye can’t save world, then who can?
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ULTIMATE COMICS X-MEN #3
Written by NICK SPENCER
Penciled by PACO MEDINA
Cover by KAARE ANDREWS
The secret is out! The whole world knows that the U.S. Government created mutants!
Everyone with an X-Gene is mercilessly hunted and branded as a terrorist!
With the war against mutants back on, will the X-Men fight back?

32 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99
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ULTIMATE COMICS ULTIMATES #4
Written by JONATHAN HICKMAN
Penciled by ESAD RIBIC
Cover by KAARE ANDREWS
Marvel Comics 50th Anniversary Variant by CHRIS STEVENS

The stunning climax to Jonathon Hickman’s first arc in the bold new Ultimate Universe!

The Ultimates are officially back, but can they stop a threat more powerful than the gods?

With the world on the brink of destruction, how can Nick Fury stop this unimaginable threat?

32 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99

Notes: Hickman's 1st arc is done in nice and smoothly in 4 issues noless, no written in trade ya! :) Here's what Ultimates #4 variant looks like, introducing us the bold new Ultimate Marvel.
 
Bendis talks Ultimate Spider-Man!

Took my favourite/most interesting parts on the quotes:
The decision to kill Peter Parker developed out of conversations between Bendis and former Marvel Editor in Chief, Joe Quesada, and it was not something Bendis took lightly. "Peter Parker is closer to me and my writer's soul than things I've actually created," Bendis told CBR News. "If I was going to tell that story, it had to have meaning and something needed to be gained from it. I thought about that for a while, and then I realized two things. One, if Peter died saving his family in a way where he was wasn't successful in saving Uncle Ben, things come full circle and it's a very heroic death. And two, if Peter's death becomes a public spectacle, it becomes an Uncle Ben moment for a new character.

"Once I had both of those points, I knew I had a damn good story that's worth doing, and it's a Spider-Man story that you haven't seen before on numerous levels," Bendis continued. "I was in. Then, Joe and I talked about who this new Spider-Man would be; where his values would come from and where his starting point was. We both agreed that it's still about 'With great power comes great responsibility,' it's still about the legacy of Peter Parker. Because of that, it's a Spider-Man story. The suit doesn't make Spider-Man Spider-Man. Peter Parker makes Spider-Man Spider-Man. So we had a way where Peter makes this young boy Spider-Man as well."

I still like this reasoning and i did feel Peter's death giving impact is influencal, here they talk why they created a brand new character and not an established 616 one:
When Bendis and Quesada first began developing the new Ultimate Spidey, they considered placing an established Marvel character like Ben Reilly or Miguel O'Hara under the mask. "If you do something like that, though, there's a portion of the audience that will disconnect from the character or be confused by them. If we're doing Ben Reilly, they'll expect another 'Clone Saga.' If we're doing Miguel O'Hara, they'll be waiting for the moment where he gets launched into the future to become the 2099 Spider-Man. All those things become questions, and that's not what the story we we're going to tell is about," Bendis explained. "I wanted to create a new character and I wanted to put a new toy in the toybox. Marvel has been pretty good to me, and I've done pretty well with other people's creations, so I wanted to give a little something back and put another toy in the toybox. I mean, I've killed enough things. I think my rule is, for every ten I kill, I put one back in the toybox," Bendis said with a laugh.

Bendis confirms once again that the idea of a african-hispanic Spider-Man had been tossed around before "Don Glover" thing came around.
Despite what many fans believed when the new Spider-Man's identity was revealed, Bendis and Quesada had already decided Miles parents were going to be African America and Hispanic when then began hearing about the internet campaign for actor Donald Glover of NBC's "Community" to play Spider-Man in the next Spidey film. "I personally like [Glover] a lot as a stand up, as a writer, and I like 'Community' an awful lot. And, like everybody else, I woke up one morning and heard about the campaign for him to be Spider-Man. I was like, 'He should be Spider-Man!'" Bendis said. "Initially, it didn't even dawn on me that we were already working on a Spider-Man of a different ethnicity. I hadn't wrapped my head around the fact that it would be a big deal, even though Joe knew it was going to be. I don't know why my brain doesn't go there right away. In my mind, it's not up to us whether it's a big deal or not.

Donald Glover's "Community" character, Troy Barnes, is a college age student, while Miles is a middle schooler attending a New York City charter school, a setting Bendis decided he wanted to explore after Quesada recommended he watch the 2010 documentary "Waiting for Superman."

Bendis confirms Miles Morales parents are alive as speculated from the preview art:
"[Joe] pointed me in this direction about what's going on with charter schools in New York and Washington and other places around the country. That certainly is a landscape that hasn't been done to death in fiction, and we thought it was pretty interesting. Also, my wife has a masters in education and this is one of her very specific areas of expertise," Bendis said. "We're going to take a look at that inside the book as well. You can see from the artwork that's been shown that Miles and his family are obviously at a charter school lottery in the first issue."

Ya for alive parents!

Bendis compares the two Spider-Men, also confirms a Spider bit Morales:
Peter Parker was still attending high school when he died, so there's a not a huge difference between him and Miles in terms of actual age. In terms of maturity, emotionally and mentally, however, the difference between Parker, the veteran hero, and Miles, the rookie, will be considerable.

"Peter was 15, Miles is 13 and as everyone whose lived through those years knows, there's a big difference between those two ages," Bendis remarked. "Someone joked that I picked that age because I'm Jewish and that's your Bar Mitzvah age, when you're told you're a man even though you don't really feel like one. I guess I did subconsciously give Miles a Bar Mitzvah when I had that spider bite him, because there's just something interesting about that age. He's not quite yet on the road he needs to go down, and that road could lead him in many different directions. When you're that young, your eyes are wide open. It's a perspective we haven't really seen before in superhero comics."

In "Ultimate Comics Fallout" #4, readers got a quick glimpse of Miles in one of his first outings as Spider-Man. In "Ultimate Comics Spider-Man" #1, Bendis and Pichelli rewind the clock to properly introduce readers to the new Spidey, revealing how he came to take up the mantle of the Web-Slinger. "We're going to show you exactly how he got his powers and where he came from. Then we will drive up to the moment of Peter's death, the moment where he first puts on the costume and the fallout in his life afterwords. That's all in the first arc of the series," Bendis said. "First, you're going to learn how long he's had these powers and what he has or hasn't been doing with them. He realizes all that's been a mistake once he discovers the true meaning of Peter Parker's life and sacrifice."

Miles may be following in Peter Parker's heroic footsteps, but the new Spider-Man will have his own opinion and outlook on the world he lives in. "Miles is coming from a completely different upbringing than Peter. He's going to look at everything that Peter has seen through different eyes and have different revelations about it. That's what's interesting to me," Bendis said. "Here's this kid whose decided to do the same thing Peter did, but everything about his upbringing and what's been instilled in him is different. Because he's so young, he's yet to put these thoughts together on his own and now he has to, in a very exciting way. Decisions have to be made quickly."

Unlike Peter, the biggest decision makers in Miles' life so far have been his mother and father. "The shocking news -- and you can see this in the art that debuted last week -- is that, in Miles, we finally have a Marvel character whose mother and father are both alive and still together," Bendis joked. "His father is alive and living in the house. He's not a bad guy and has not been killed by bad guys. Both parents are alive and well, and raising him.

More on the supporting cast:
"You'll meet Miles' parents in our first arc, along with his best friend, who is my favorite person to write and Sarah's favorite person to draw," Bendis continued. "The cast will get larger and larger as we go. Some of the cast members will be from Peter Parker's life. Jessica Drew will make an appearance, and so will Gwen Stacy and Aunt May."

New villains and antagonists confirmed:
Outside of Miles' personal life, Bendis also has plans to introduce the new Spidey to both new villains as well as familiar members of Spider-Man's rogues gallery. "Miles will get a very large antagonist. Remember, Peter had Norman Osborn and the Kingpin. There were quite a few other elements as well, so there will be a building situation," Bendis stated. "Some characters are taking the opportunity of Peter's death as their ticket to go crazy, and Miles will be there to stop it. There's also going to be some brand-new characters that you will meet in the first couple of issues who will also be a very big deal."

The new Spider-Man will desperately try to get to become part of the Ultimates world and become a global hero, ooh exciting! Like the biggest news for me! Imagen all the emotional impact for Iron Man and Captain, i bet Thor is the only one who welcomes him lol:
After establishing Miles world and how being the new Spider-Man impacts it, the writer will move on to explore the character's role in the larger Ultimate Universe. "Once Jonathan Hickman sets up shop in 'Ultimate Comics Ultimates,' we'll start to connect to some of the things he's doing in that book," Bendis said. "There will be similarities between Ultimates and Ultimate Spider-Man, but Ultimates is a big global who-ha. Spider-Man has always been from the point of view of Spider-Man, and because he was a teenager, he had a smaller view of the world. Miles, though, is going to be desperate to be part of the Ultimates' world. He'll be heading towards them more than Peter was."

Ultimate Spider-Man as always is about a teenager, not what ethic background the person has:
"Miles is a different ethnicity than Spider-Man has ever been before, but he's not going to represent all that is race in this country. That is not what this story is about. It's about a little boy; where he comes from and what happens when power is put in his hands. There are certain people that have tweeted me and emailed me that they think that the story is going to be about race. That's not how I write. That's not how I see the world," Bendis said. "I don't know anyone who represents all things to all people, and Miles won't either. Miles, like every other character in fiction, will represent the writer's vision of his life, and I'm excited to unveil that."
 
Great interview and I love those covers. I thought that was the Silver Surfer on the X-Men cover lol.
 
I'm excited that both of Miles' parents are alive, and still together under one roof. :up:
 
Quick question. Is Wolverine in the new Ultimate X-Men is illegitimate son that was in Ultimate X? I haven't really read Ultimate Marvel since the Ultimatum event.
 
Man, everytime i try to get out of the ultimate universe it just keeps PULLING me back in. I'm completely sold on this new direction, this looks way better than this whole Fear-Itself nonsense in the 616.
 
I actually really like Miles' new Spider-Man costume. The top-heavy unsymmetrical design feels like the old blue Nightwing costume, and I love it.

But I feel like the black and yellow in the new Wolverine's costume need to be switched and the whiskers on the mask ditched. that costume is just too yellow.
 
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I whole heartedly approve. I hope Miles has a long and successful run.
Um, I could be wrong, but I took the comic to mean that the race of a character doesn't matter at all. As long as they're a good character and a hero, kids of all races will be inspired no matter what.

So in essence, it's saying Miles really isn't all that necessary.
 
Quick question. Is Wolverine in the new Ultimate X-Men is illegitimate son that was in Ultimate X? I haven't really read Ultimate Marvel since the Ultimatum event.

Yeah it's Jimmy Hudson.
 
Um, I could be wrong, but I took the comic to mean that the race of a character doesn't matter at all. As long as they're a good character and a hero, kids of all races will be inspired no matter what.

So in essence, it's saying Miles really isn't all that necessary.

See, I took it mean to the exact same thing, that race was inconsequential, and you can have a good character or hero of any ethnicity.

That being said, I saw it as wanting to give Miles a chance. That the spirit of Spider-Man is intact and prevalent, even if his race has changed. That Miles should be given a chance to prove himself based on what kind of character he is, not on what his heritage is.

That the new Spider-Man now can be just as influential or inspirational to kids today as the old one was then.

I could, of course, be completely wrong. It does happen quite often.
 
Man, everytime i try to get out of the ultimate universe it just keeps PULLING me back in. I'm completely sold on this new direction, this looks way better than this whole Fear-Itself nonsense in the 616.

Man do I hear ya there! I feel like, at times, I've been reading comics for to long to read the Ultimate Universe but then they put stuff like this out and I feel like I'm wasting my $$$ on the original universe.
 
Yeah it's Jimmy Hudson.

I've only read the 1st issue of Ultimate X and want to read the trade but it doesn't bug me if hear spoilers so my question is: Did they find out who Jimmy Hudson's real mom is?
I remember reading #1 and Jimmy finding out about his bone claws and the "magic" Adamantium made me think his real mom is the Scarlet Witch's mom because, if I remember correctly Wolverine slept with her in Ultimates 3.

 
I've only read the 1st issue of Ultimate X and want to read the trade but it doesn't bug me if hear spoilers so my question is: Did they find out who Jimmy Hudson's real mom is?
I remember reading #1 and Jimmy finding out about his bone claws and the "magic" Adamantium made me think his real mom is the Scarlet Witch's mom because, if I remember correctly Wolverine slept with her in Ultimates 3.
Don't make me remember about that :csad:
And the worst thing was that the story didn't have a purpose, we didn't have to hear it, it didn't help the story and there was not reason for wolvie to tell it
 
I've only read the 1st issue of Ultimate X and want to read the trade but it doesn't bug me if hear spoilers so my question is: Did they find out who Jimmy Hudson's real mom is?
I remember reading #1 and Jimmy finding out about his bone claws and the "magic" Adamantium made me think his real mom is the Scarlet Witch's mom because, if I remember correctly Wolverine slept with her in Ultimates 3.

Arthur Adams and Jeph Loeb only did 5 issues because Adams 1st born became such a heavy duty for him, i think the trade is coming in November and it has some delicious art. :) Nah, we didn't learn much new from Jimmy outside his 1st appearence, he's an optimistic noble guy who wants to do the right thing really, but each issue was really a dedicated Origin story. I do agree with you whos Jimmy's mom is, would explain the sex scene as well.
 
Don't make me remember about that :csad:
And the worst thing was that the story didn't have a purpose, we didn't have to hear it, it didn't help the story and there was not reason for wolvie to tell it


I dunno it seemed really fun to me and I think the purpose was to hint at who Jimmy's mother is.
 
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See, I took it mean to the exact same thing, that race was inconsequential, and you can have a good character or hero of any ethnicity.

That being said, I saw it as wanting to give Miles a chance. That the spirit of Spider-Man is intact and prevalent, even if his race has changed. That Miles should be given a chance to prove himself based on what kind of character he is, not on what his heritage is.

That the new Spider-Man now can be just as influential or inspirational to kids today as the old one was then.

I could, of course, be completely wrong. It does happen quite often.
I don't disagree with your sentiments.

But using that same logic shouldn't we note that at least part of the reason why Miles was created was to fulfil some pointless need for "diversity", which is kinda a stupid thing to do to begin with.

I mean, it could turn out really well. Everyone thought Batwoman was nothing more than a token lesbian, but she turned out to be a phenomenal character regardless of her orientation.
 

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